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About 8 years ago I didn't have tickets to MCM for the only time in maybe 35 years. I got in line at 3:00AM for the handful of general admission tickets left. They limited it to I think 4 (or was it 2?) GA tickets per person. If you were not in line by about 5:00AM, you didn't get tickets that went on sale at 8:00AM.

[quote name="Mr. Buddy Garrity" post="1240820" timestamp="1343699247"] whats the earliest i can get a ticket to Mid-County Madness? PAM has an open date on [b]Oct. 19th[/b] so im free. [/quote] Better get someone to give you a ticket.

[quote name="WOSgrad" post="1240781" timestamp="1343689558"] [quote author=tvc link=topic=101038.msg1240780#msg1240780 date=1343689006] [quote author=bearfan14 link=topic=101038.msg1238850#msg1238850 date=1343019314] Don't underestimate a player's will to win. WOS is good, but they're not the old WOS. We'll see how LCM rises to the occasion. Hopefully those young kids coming up for LCM understand the bitterness of the rivalry, I feel like they're too young to know. [/quote] If the high school football players (or junior high for that matter) don't understand the bitterness of the rivalry, it makes me wonder if it is a rivalry. [/quote] You'd think being on the wrong end of a 23-3 series record where the average score has been roughly 29-8, you'd think they'd understand the bitterness. [/quote] At work we call that a clue. I was thinking if you would have to explain to an Indian or Bulldog the meaning of the rivalry by the time they get into middle school..... or the second grade.

[quote name="bearfan14" post="1238850" timestamp="1343019314"] Don't underestimate a player's will to win. WOS is good, but they're not the old WOS. We'll see how LCM rises to the occasion. Hopefully those young kids coming up for LCM understand the bitterness of the rivalry, I feel like they're too young to know. [/quote] If the high school football players (or junior high for that matter) don't understand the bitterness of the rivalry, it makes me wonder if it is a rivalry.

[quote name="vidor96pirates" post="1235613" timestamp="1342192221"] [b]Probably the best, if not second best defense in the area to Nederland.[/b] [/quote] With 9 returning starters (which unfortunately includes Quirante) they should be tough. A very good defense is a good building block for a good playoff run if they can hold it together. I remember a couple of years ago when Nederland was putting up about 35 points a game but losing some of them 35-38. I always think it starts with defense.

[quote name="Mr. Buddy Garrity" post="1239831" timestamp="1343244835"] [size=10pt][b]look at what they're returning. They're my pick to win state in their division. DCTF might have it right with their ranking.[/b][/size] [/quote] For a change?

[quote name="Mr. Buddy Garrity" post="1239906" timestamp="1343254427"] [size=10pt][b]if that was the case Neumann woulda put WB back on the schedule and for darn sure woulda scheduled Memorial which in fact IS the best team in [s]the area[/s] [color=red]Port Arthur[/color].[/b][/size] [/quote]

Yeah, I agree with forgetting the past. Nederland did not beat PNG for like 19 years in the 60's and 70's. I would like to completely forget about that. I want to start history at about the 1993 season. Nederland leads Mid-County Madness in the all time records 13-6. [IMG][Hidden Content]] Great idea dawgbacker. Typically, it is not reality but I like it.

[quote name="dawgbacker" post="1239597" timestamp="1343185571"] [size=9pt][b]..................... but I bet you anything Coach Mathews and Coach English have heard plenty from guys like you, im just glad they are smart enough to not listen.[/b][/size] ;) ;) ;) [/quote] Oh yeah and again, this is not my poll so I am not sure what you are talking about with "guys like you". Look at the Dave Campbell's poll or any others. Which ones list Vidor in the top 25? I am however one of the football pollsters in this forum. I might have Vidor at the top of the pack for all you know. Then what will you say about "guys like you"?  ;)

[quote name="dawgbacker" post="1239597" timestamp="1343185571"] [b]TVC....... I guess by your scientific theory that means that Nederland Basketball will not be ranked next year? Seeing how they have been terrible for years in basketball and have only recently had success under Coach English, I guess they will be in the same boat as Vidor football![/b] ................ [/quote] You are right about it not being the same thing. Nederland is not on a one year run in basketball. If Vidor wins for two or three years in football then they will get a lot more notice than one first round win since 1964. Secondly, it is not my theory, it is reality. It is not my poll so I have no say so. Look at some of the comments in this thread about some schools getting just the opposite attention as Vidor.... ranked high not because of returning starters or last year's record but historically. Nederland gets a good look every year because they have been in the playoffs for something like 15 of the last 16 years. Vidor has been in one time. Who do you think most people will pick no matter the other factors? A team that has been almost every year for a generation or a team that has won once in almost 50 years? That is just human nature and humans are doing the polls. And that folks, is reality.

[quote name="mytwocents" post="1239538" timestamp="1343178887"] But in my defense they shouldn't base ranking off of the history of a team. They should base rankings off of who you have coming back from last year and how good you were last year. And base on how many starters we have coming back and how good we did last year some would say we deserve a ranking but i really don't care lol. [/quote] I am not going to disagree with your opinion but history does have a way of rearing its ugly head at times. Look at the also bad history of Lumberton. At 40+ years and no playoffs in school history and then they take the district by storm and then pull some upsets in the playoffs. Their history is erased and they are off and running into the future....... ..... well, that is what many people thought. History isn't everything but sometimes it is easy to understand why a pollster will look at a team as a bit more suspect than a team that is always claimed to reload instead of rebuild. ..... in my opinion.

Polls are nothing more than conversation pieces. If people discuss them either good, bad or otherwise, they did their job.

[quote name="Smoking Baby" post="1239334" timestamp="1343145068"] lumberton sabine pass forest brook galveston ball orangfield [/quote] In no particular order?

[quote name="Mr. Buddy Garrity" post="1239520" timestamp="1343177444"] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=101240.msg1239513#msg1239513 date=1343177153] [quote author=Mr. Buddy Garrity link=topic=101240.msg1239509#msg1239509 date=1343177035] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=101240.msg1239507#msg1239507 date=1343176914] A little surprised Vidor wasn't in the top 50. [/quote]they wasnt last year and we all know how that turned out lol look out for Wichita Falls Rider  ;) [/quote] I know they weren't last year but I figured after the kind of season they had last year and what they have returning would have warranted a top 50 ranking to start this season. [/quote][size=9pt][b]you know magazines never show Vidor respect lol. Guess [color=red]they think last year was a fluke[/color], wait until they see this year[/b][/size]  ;) [/quote] When you've made the playoffs about 5 times in 85 years, only made it past the first round twice and won their first playoff game since John F. Kennedy was the president then it is hard for some people to think otherwise. There are many storied programs around SE Texas but Vidor's usual story is a perennial loser or another hard luck year. Maybe last year was not a fluke and maybe they will go deep yet again. When looking historically, it is hard to overcome the past as far as the Pirates go until the can show some consistency. A playoff win once every 50 years doesn't exactly engender confidence.

Okay... found it.

So what are the odds of catching a: 1. Mahi (Dolphin, Dorado) 2. Ling (Cobia) 3. Tuna I have been offshore a few times and have caught quite a few fish but never any of those.... which might be some of the best eating. I could imagine springing some money for a decent shot at those.

[quote name="PNG Proud" post="1238284" timestamp="1342838622"] Yeah,  did that stuff float out of Taylor's or something? [/quote] I saw a lot or most of it coming out of the marshes from farther up the ship channel toward Beaumont and Bessie Heights. I went this morning about 2:30AM and saw almost no grass in the water and where it was choked off a couple of days ago was almost clear. The water had actually cleared off a bit.

.... and the weed line isn't helping in the channel.

No.

I watched Sabine Lake slick off in the afternoon and it made me sick...... that I was at work.

[quote name="thetragichippy" post="1233149" timestamp="1340894102"] [quote author=westend1 link=topic=100275.msg1233130#msg1233130 date=1340891612] Pier fishing last night [Hidden Content] [/quote] :o [size=9pt][b] Why do I have a boat????[/b][/size] [/quote] Because you don't have a lighted pier.

I finally had a good night in the ship channel. The biggest one on the left was just short of 21". My first limit this summer. [IMG][Hidden Content]]

..... or central Florida.

[quote name="WOSgrad" post="1230601" timestamp="1339694435"] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=100538.msg1230596#msg1230596 date=1339693519] Well, at least untill basketball season get here, right?  ;D [/quote] Blasphemer! [/quote] Nah, Central is just expecting a quick return to roundball after week 10.  8)

[quote name="WOSgrad" post="1230482" timestamp="1339627698"] [size=10pt]Well, they might want to be glad it was Gabe that was the admin in question.  [b]'Cause if it would have been me, he WOULD have gotten the permanent heave ho. [/b] .........................................................[/size] [/quote] [IMG][Hidden Content]]