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[quote name="dme1111" post="1242280" timestamp="1344195377"] Thank you... I had been busy at work and hadn't even thought about the previews [/quote] The previews are a joke anyway. No wait, that is the polls..............  8)

[quote name="thetragichippy" post="1242273" timestamp="1344193633"] [quote author=tvc link=topic=82035.msg1241776#msg1241776 date=1343970995] ...... especially if I can take a red on a flyrod. [/quote] you and that flyrod....lol [/quote] I won a bass tournament with it (but not the one we were in). Of course the flyrod didn't hurt that day either.  ;D

Homecoming known statewide?

[quote name="baddog" post="1242204" timestamp="1344142191"] I have 4 seats for 2 people on the Ned side. Section J, row 20......just right. NOT FOR SALE!!!!!  ;) [/quote] 4 seats for 2 people? 

I think mtc needs a mulligan.

[quote name="PhatMack19" post="1242208" timestamp="1344143932"] I assume as with most fields, that the Vidor home side holds more fans than the visitor side so there is your answer. [/quote] Is that what twocents is asking? If so that is a no brainer. The Vidor home side holds about 5K and their visitor side holds about 1,500.

I am not even sure what the question is. Is the PNG hc bigger tha the Vidor hc or is the Vidor hc bigger than the average week at PNG or is Vidor playing PNG for hc? It us hard to claim a legitimate question when it is not easy to figure out the question.

[quote name="Mr. Buddy Garrity" post="1241985" timestamp="1344039345"] im not liking this track. hope we have a cool front to block it then cool us off a little. [/quote] To heck with a hurricane, if you can get a cool front in here the first week of August........

...... especially if I can take a red on a flyrod.

[quote name="westend1" post="1241241" timestamp="1343850861"] Killed em again last night.  probably 30 reds, and a few specks, in about 2 hours. [/quote] I'm free after Sunday and guarantee to not waste anything I catch.  8)

And for a price...... 45 yard line, aisle seats or row 18.  ;D

... but I already have my two for this year.

... and it is probably worse now.

About 8 years ago I didn't have tickets to MCM for the only time in maybe 35 years. I got in line at 3:00AM for the handful of general admission tickets left. They limited it to I think 4 (or was it 2?) GA tickets per person. If you were not in line by about 5:00AM, you didn't get tickets that went on sale at 8:00AM.

[quote name="Mr. Buddy Garrity" post="1240820" timestamp="1343699247"] whats the earliest i can get a ticket to Mid-County Madness? PAM has an open date on [b]Oct. 19th[/b] so im free. [/quote] Better get someone to give you a ticket.

[quote name="WOSgrad" post="1240781" timestamp="1343689558"] [quote author=tvc link=topic=101038.msg1240780#msg1240780 date=1343689006] [quote author=bearfan14 link=topic=101038.msg1238850#msg1238850 date=1343019314] Don't underestimate a player's will to win. WOS is good, but they're not the old WOS. We'll see how LCM rises to the occasion. Hopefully those young kids coming up for LCM understand the bitterness of the rivalry, I feel like they're too young to know. [/quote] If the high school football players (or junior high for that matter) don't understand the bitterness of the rivalry, it makes me wonder if it is a rivalry. [/quote] You'd think being on the wrong end of a 23-3 series record where the average score has been roughly 29-8, you'd think they'd understand the bitterness. [/quote] At work we call that a clue. I was thinking if you would have to explain to an Indian or Bulldog the meaning of the rivalry by the time they get into middle school..... or the second grade.

[quote name="bearfan14" post="1238850" timestamp="1343019314"] Don't underestimate a player's will to win. WOS is good, but they're not the old WOS. We'll see how LCM rises to the occasion. Hopefully those young kids coming up for LCM understand the bitterness of the rivalry, I feel like they're too young to know. [/quote] If the high school football players (or junior high for that matter) don't understand the bitterness of the rivalry, it makes me wonder if it is a rivalry.

[quote name="vidor96pirates" post="1235613" timestamp="1342192221"] [b]Probably the best, if not second best defense in the area to Nederland.[/b] [/quote] With 9 returning starters (which unfortunately includes Quirante) they should be tough. A very good defense is a good building block for a good playoff run if they can hold it together. I remember a couple of years ago when Nederland was putting up about 35 points a game but losing some of them 35-38. I always think it starts with defense.

[quote name="Mr. Buddy Garrity" post="1239831" timestamp="1343244835"] [size=10pt][b]look at what they're returning. They're my pick to win state in their division. DCTF might have it right with their ranking.[/b][/size] [/quote] For a change?

[quote name="Mr. Buddy Garrity" post="1239906" timestamp="1343254427"] [size=10pt][b]if that was the case Neumann woulda put WB back on the schedule and for darn sure woulda scheduled Memorial which in fact IS the best team in [s]the area[/s] [color=red]Port Arthur[/color].[/b][/size] [/quote]

Yeah, I agree with forgetting the past. Nederland did not beat PNG for like 19 years in the 60's and 70's. I would like to completely forget about that. I want to start history at about the 1993 season. Nederland leads Mid-County Madness in the all time records 13-6. [IMG][Hidden Content]] Great idea dawgbacker. Typically, it is not reality but I like it.

[quote name="dawgbacker" post="1239597" timestamp="1343185571"] [size=9pt][b]..................... but I bet you anything Coach Mathews and Coach English have heard plenty from guys like you, im just glad they are smart enough to not listen.[/b][/size] ;) ;) ;) [/quote] Oh yeah and again, this is not my poll so I am not sure what you are talking about with "guys like you". Look at the Dave Campbell's poll or any others. Which ones list Vidor in the top 25? I am however one of the football pollsters in this forum. I might have Vidor at the top of the pack for all you know. Then what will you say about "guys like you"?  ;)

[quote name="dawgbacker" post="1239597" timestamp="1343185571"] [b]TVC....... I guess by your scientific theory that means that Nederland Basketball will not be ranked next year? Seeing how they have been terrible for years in basketball and have only recently had success under Coach English, I guess they will be in the same boat as Vidor football![/b] ................ [/quote] You are right about it not being the same thing. Nederland is not on a one year run in basketball. If Vidor wins for two or three years in football then they will get a lot more notice than one first round win since 1964. Secondly, it is not my theory, it is reality. It is not my poll so I have no say so. Look at some of the comments in this thread about some schools getting just the opposite attention as Vidor.... ranked high not because of returning starters or last year's record but historically. Nederland gets a good look every year because they have been in the playoffs for something like 15 of the last 16 years. Vidor has been in one time. Who do you think most people will pick no matter the other factors? A team that has been almost every year for a generation or a team that has won once in almost 50 years? That is just human nature and humans are doing the polls. And that folks, is reality.

[quote name="mytwocents" post="1239538" timestamp="1343178887"] But in my defense they shouldn't base ranking off of the history of a team. They should base rankings off of who you have coming back from last year and how good you were last year. And base on how many starters we have coming back and how good we did last year some would say we deserve a ranking but i really don't care lol. [/quote] I am not going to disagree with your opinion but history does have a way of rearing its ugly head at times. Look at the also bad history of Lumberton. At 40+ years and no playoffs in school history and then they take the district by storm and then pull some upsets in the playoffs. Their history is erased and they are off and running into the future....... ..... well, that is what many people thought. History isn't everything but sometimes it is easy to understand why a pollster will look at a team as a bit more suspect than a team that is always claimed to reload instead of rebuild. ..... in my opinion.

Polls are nothing more than conversation pieces. If people discuss them either good, bad or otherwise, they did their job.