tvc184

Oooooooooooooooookay..........................  ::)

If it's a 3 point, take it out.

[quote name="bronco#34" post="902373" timestamp="1289312357"] i would say the crosby cougars .if the district didnt take 4 teams ,they would be at home for the playoffs. c mon man they loss to goose creek memorial  [/quote] I think that a lot of teams that didn't make the playoffs would argue that not making it is a lot worse than making the playoffs but didn't rank higher. I wonder if any of them would trade places with Crosby and still be playing this weekend..........

[quote name="PURPLE 4EVER" post="902175" timestamp="1289269048"] Just curious... How many tickets is Nederland allowed to sell? [/quote] The entire amount of the visitor's side. They can sell all 80 tickets.............

Just my opinion but I would never shoot a deer with buckshot at over 15-20 yards. It would be like one of the most unreliable weapons of choice. The same gun with a slug would be a different story. Buckshot if for up close and personal with not much time to shoot. Even as a police weapon, buckshot is for very close range at a potential moving target. That's my take on it. It is not the weapon but the ammo choice. Maybe you'll find the horns when the buzzards start circling.

A cull or "management deer" is one that the big time trophy guys won't pay for. When they fly in from out of state, they don't want to go home with a deer that won't look good on their wall. Some of the management/culls are some pretty nice deer. They just aren't "trophies".

I would think that anyone that doesn't make the playoffs would be very disappointed. I think that the LCM fans probably thought that they had finally turned the corner though after a long playoff drought. Starting out the first half of the season undefeated and then ending up with Nederland not having to win but only keep it within 11 points to make it to the big dance and still missing out has to be tough. After so many years of coming up dry and looking as it was a fairly sure bet and then missing the playoffs in the last half of the season has to be a hard one.

[quote name="bullets13" post="901800" timestamp="1289245820"] big boy.  you couldn't get a shot at him? [/quote] You bet I could have. My wife would have wondered about the $5,000 charge on the credit card though. We were there to shoot does, culls and spikes.

Yes, he was an 8, I had my mind on the 7 with now brow tines. Let me go do some editing.

[b]And last but not least, the last of our bow kills for bucks this weekend. Another hunter in our group took this 8 point that weighed 210 pounds. [/b] [IMG][Hidden Content]]

[b]Here is another cull that one of my group took out. He is a mature deer but only a 7 point with no brow tines. He would have been a decent deer with the tines. [/b] [IMG][Hidden Content]]

[b]This one came out and chased him off. The ranch might take him this year. He is a bruiser for sure. [/b] [IMG][Hidden Content]]

[b]Here is one I had out in front of my stand for a while Saturday morning. He has the potential to be a good one in the future. I aged him at 3.5 (maybe 4.5) years old so he has another 3 or 4 years of growing yet.[/b] [IMG][Hidden Content]]

[b]Not a bragger but he is my first buck kill with a bow. I have a few does and javelinas but this was a break through.[/b] [IMG][Hidden Content]]

[quote name="westend1" post="901634" timestamp="1289233470"] [quote author=tvc184 link=topic=75731.msg901621#msg901621 date=1289232843] We had a guy bring his 14 year old daughter and she got a 110 pound doe with a bow. If anyone wants to argue that a 30 pound compound bow won't send an arrow through a deer, I can tell you that it can. [/quote] Good for her, but, I thought you had a minimum pull weight of something like 40-45 to be able to hunt whitetail.  Is that just an old wives' tale? [/quote] It was changed the last legislature from a 40 pound minimum. That is why I brought it up. There was a big debate over a lighter bow killing a deer and would it just wound an animal and blah blah blah. People forget that a 40 pound recurve 30 years ago was shooting a wooden arrow about 140 feet per second. Now we have 30 pound compounds shooting a carbon arrow with a razor blade broadhead at 190 feet per second.

We had a guy bring his 14 year old daughter and she got a 110 pound doe with a bow. If anyone wants to argue that a 30 pound compound bow won't send an arrow through a deer, I can tell you that it can.

And this is beating a dead horse but for many (or most) leases, they can go MLD and hunt two months longer with a rifle and kill without concern of antler restrictions.

I believe that no matter what limit they set, they assume that you should use caution and not shoot a "legal" animal as if you could run out and measure it and find out that it is 13.001" and therefore okay to shoot. You have to draw the line somewhere and most 3.5 year old deer will reach 13". If they have a lesser standard, then 2.5 year old deer can be legally shot and that would defeat the purpose of a more mature deer herd. A more exact method would be aging them on the hoof and shooting a mature (3.5) year old deer but if you think people have a problem with horn width, wait till it becomes more subjective as, "That one sure looks 3.5 years old to me". I was hunting at a ranch and a guy killed a basket rack 6 point and swore it was a mature deer. The deer was a healthy young deer that was about 105 pounds and had a very thin neck and pencil thin horns. It seemed clearly a yearling but this guy was adamant that it was mature. When you set a horn limit, no matter anything else, is easy to measure. If they are close, don't shoot. If they are easily outside of the ears, fire away. Remeber that the intent of the law is not to kill all 3.5 year old and 13" horned deer. It is to grow a more healthy mature herd.

I'll show a better pic of that deer when I get home in a bit.

[quote name="ST413" post="900908" timestamp="1289171745"] Love the effects of this rule but it can sure be hard to tell if some of these deer are legal or not. [/quote] I think that is the intent. If it is close, why shoot?

[quote name="Lefty99" post="900696" timestamp="1289160172"] [quote author=643 link=topic=72280.msg900425#msg900425 date=1289146370] [b]Exxxxxcuse my ignorance BUT what makes this a cull[/b], he's got good tine length, brow tines OK, could it be he's just OLD, BTW I wish we as hunters could come up with another word rather than cull... [/quote] S. Texas is makes him a cull ;) [/quote] Yep. At 20 more inches and it would be a $5,000'deer.

He was 190 pounds on the hoof and has a green score of 124.5.

I took this 10 point cull out of the herd this morning. I arrowed him at about 20 yards. [IMG][Hidden Content]]

Great sentiment by Vidor for a long time fixture of Indian football.

Saturday morning might be a good day to be on the lake after the wind settles. A lot of deer hunters might be out for opening weekend and others won't brave the cool morning. Could be a great day for chasing birds.