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[quote name="happyhour4" post="703564" timestamp="1257880543"] i think this is just a money deal so the wardens can write tickets its dumb if you ask me [/quote] ::)

I wish that I could take out about 100 hogs on our lease. About the only way to keep them out of an area is to fence off the feeders and they will move to another area without fencing.

Saw two does and one is now in the freezer.

[quote name="Pirate88" post="702917" timestamp="1257811602"] Someone help me. I don't understand how play-off game sites are determined. Do the coaches get together and put a list of sites together and then book one based upon availablity? I know this has been discussed in other threads, but I can't find it. I really don't understand how the Dayton-Vidor game is being played in Huntsville. It seems more reasonable for this game to be played in Beaumont or at least Houston, before being played in Huntsville.  :P [/quote] The coaches call each other and if they can agree on a neutral site, then that it is. If they can't, they usually pick two different stadiums (maybe home and home) and flip a coin. That is even in the state championship game. I think starting next year, the UIL will name the location of the championship games.

I hope they find some of the many stolen ATV's of which, a large percentage are heading to Mexico.

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="701327" timestamp="1257651838"] [quote author=LR1969 link=topic=62083.msg701305#msg701305 date=1257649938] Those birds belong to BmtSoulja1...He spent a lot of time training them to do that...Don't mess with them (ha). [/quote]Call me Bird Man!   ;D ;D ;D ;D [/quote] I was going to call you Pigeon.

Good finish for LCM looking toward next year.

Lumberton had a good year. When you play the last game of the season and still have a shot at the playoffs, it can't be that bad. Three of their five district losses were by a touchdown or less. A single play could have turned any of those games around. The main thing is, they were very competitive. It is not like they were blown out for five games. Except for the PNG game, Lumberton was in every game until the last tick of the clock.

Being a hard core Nederland fan this one is easy, it has to be Faircloth. There is no debate. Had PNG been 8-2 and made the playoffs or something similar, a debate could be made. The fact that he took his team from just about worst to first and did so with an undefeated team and has them in the top 10 in the state makes it no issue. Neumann did a great job this year with the hand he was dealt. Everyone talks about the quarterback situation but a lot of other players were lost. Everyone loses people but Nederland had a terrible rash of injuries to key people. What a finish to make it to the dance..... but it still doesn't overcome what Faircloth did and in his first year. Faircloth gets all of the 1st place votes for 20-4A this year. Neumann might get all of the second place votes.

I might be looking at the new Bowtech Destroyer 350.

[quote name="bearbryant" post="698305" timestamp="1257465923"] heck a well placed shot from a .22 will knock down most anything in Texas.  [/quote] Yeah, if it is well placed in the head.

Maybe Neumann can get Nederland to up the offer again.... especially if Nederland comes from their 1-4 start to make the playoffs.  :)

[quote name="KFDM COOP" post="698138" timestamp="1257451507"] [quote author=scooter! link=topic=61888.msg698027#msg698027 date=1257445783] arent they dropping to 3A next year? [/quote] Yes. [/quote] Uh oh, Silsbee is going to have some competition next year.

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="698088" timestamp="1257448207"] Boooo!  We're gonna take the Indians!  ;D [/quote] Maybe you need to start Soulja's Fearless Predictions.....  ;D

[quote name="dayton" post="697956" timestamp="1257443450"] I see what you're saying... but it seems that winning typically breeds winning. That type of run to me exceeds just talent and coaching. Anywho.... I think he deserves another year to right the ship. [/quote] I think you are correct about the winning breeds winning. A lot more kids come out for the team and generally play with more enthusiasm in my opinion. When you think you are supposed to win, everyone wants to be a part of it and they play like it. Get a few years of losing under your belt and some of that goes away.

I know that he should not even be considered as a top quarterback and probably won't even be a quarterback for his senior year but Dionte Forney from Nederland has sure been impressive in two starts. He has 538 yards, 6 touchdowns and only 1 interception. That is after coming, not off the bench, but off for a few weeks with an injury and playing two years (including this year) at defensive end.

[quote name="dayton" post="697946" timestamp="1257442690"] [quote author=tvc184 link=topic=61888.msg697944#msg697944 date=1257442538] [quote author=BoboandBlair link=topic=61888.msg697866#msg697866 date=1257438450] Thats not to surprising.   How many head coaches will that make for them in the past 8 years?  They have lots more problems going on in LaMarque than wins/losses.  I don't know who would want to take that job. [/quote] Two years ago it was one of the premier jobs in the state. Gone are the days of LaMarque being considered a title contender each year. It seems like just yesterday that we had the Coog fans on this site crowing that LM would always be there in the thick of things. No playoffs? Losing seasons? Such is life in football. [b]Get you a good coach and make the playoffs a few years and think you are invincible.[/b] The coach moves on and it is a toss of the dice if you get a good one to replace him. [/quote] In LM's defense... they did a little more than that. 9 SC appearances - 5 titles - in like 12 years - under 3 different coaches. [/quote] So they had three good coaches and some talent during those same years. What was Nederland before Larry Neumann or Dayton before Jerry Stewart?

[quote name="BoboandBlair" post="697866" timestamp="1257438450"] Thats not to surprising.   How many head coaches will that make for them in the past 8 years?  They have lots more problems going on in LaMarque than wins/losses.  I don't know who would want to take that job. [/quote] Two years ago it was one of the premier jobs in the state. Gone are the days of LaMarque being considered a title contender each year. It seems like just yesterday that we had the Coog fans on this site crowing that LM would always be there in the thick of things. No playoffs? Losing seasons? Such is life in football. Get you a good coach and make the playoffs a few years and think you are invincible. The coach moves on and it is a toss of the dice if you get a good one to replace him.

[quote name="westend1" post="697900" timestamp="1257440079"] My son has killed lots of animals with his .223, with just factory loads.  I haven't seen much difference in stopping power from the .243.   He has knocked down whitetail, big pigs, axis and even an Auodad.  i know they are not recommended for the larger game, but a well placed shot will stop about anything in the hill country. [/quote] HA... shows how little you know. You need at least a 300 Win Mag to knock down whitetails in Texas.  ;D

[quote name="Lefty99" post="697670" timestamp="1257424273"] I have some hand load 63 grain that my dad made for me.  I've seen it destroy vitals out to 100 yards with the 55 grain SPBT.  Not many people realize how much damage they will cause.  What grain do you shoot?  I may have to look into the Federal bonded. [/quote] I use 62 grain. Yep, the .223 destroys lots of tissue and is very deadly on deer. People don't like them because the rounds tend to explode inside of the deer and not exit. Sometimes the deer run a way before they drop with the small round and don't leave much of a blood trail. That is why I tried the Federal bonded to see how they penetrated. I shot a doe with it last November and waited until she was quartering away. I want the longest distance to travel through the body to see if the round would penetrate. The round probably went 12-14 inches through her chest at the angle I shot her and the round left about a .50 caliber hole on the exit wound. Awesome rounds but they are pretty expensive. The way they work and how many times I fire a round each year, I don't mind the extra expense.

[quote name="Bucof2010" post="697562" timestamp="1257393324"] [quote author=tvc184 link=topic=61867.msg697547#msg697547 date=1257392641] A .270 is all you need anywhere unless you are going for something bigger than elk. [/quote] I've heard it won't cover some of the distances in west texas [/quote] Yeah, I wasn't thinking of distances, only bullet power. I think the .270 is okay out to 300 yards though.

[quote name="Lefty99" post="697414" timestamp="1257386988"] [quote author=tvc184 link=topic=61867.msg697332#msg697332 date=1257382292] The last deer that I killed with a rifle (last year) was with a Savage in .223 Remington. It will shoot dime size groups at 100 yards with my hunting ammo.  Most of the other deer that I have killed with a rifle have been with a Remington 700 in .270 Winchester. I hope to use the .223 again this year.  [/quote] I've got a Mini-14 that I dialed in yesterday ready for the weekend. [/quote] What kind of ammo you shoot in the Mini for deer? I use some Federal bonded ammo that will not break apart and will penetrate 18" after expanding up to .45 caliber.

[quote name="Bucof2010" post="697442" timestamp="1257388091"] When possible I like my .30-.30 I can take head shots at up to 75 yds no problem with it...its small and easy to carry through woods. Other than that my .270 is all I need around here [/quote] A .270 is all you need anywhere unless you are going for something bigger than elk.

[quote name="Bucof2010" post="697510" timestamp="1257390955"] Natural selection will take care of the freaks and small deer if you let the other deer get big enough to compete. [/quote] That is what I think and am hoping for. If the doe to buck ratio was close to being correct (not the east Texas 6 to 1) and let the bucks grow up, then dominant bucks would be doing the breeding. The way it is now in a lot of places, a year and a half old spike can be breeding half your does. Start killing the does and get the ration close to 1 to 1 and watch the dominant bucks start having to fight for their does. All this talk of inferior bucks breeding makes me wonder when year and a half old deer are being killed right now anyway. I know that some people do a good job of managing the but law was put in place for all of the area, not one particular lease or ranch that might have been managing anyway. Also, anyone that doesn't like the restrictions can start the MLD program and now have to worry about that restrictions and can hunt up to two months longer.

[quote name="T-daddy" post="697231" timestamp="1257375067"] My 9 yr old killed his first deer last year it was a 5 point that was aged at 6.5.  He would not have been leagal this year cause of the spread rule but we could tell in the stand he was a cull buck...my biggest complaint is we will now be allowing the cull bucks to bread our doe..People want to compare south tx to east tx quess what the truth of the matter is south tx has better minerals in the dirt than east tx, just look at the difference in soil color while driving from here to there. better minerals = bigger deer and racks.  Im glad they made an attempt but they need to leave an out like if your caught with a buck with less than a 13 inch spread then he better be at least 5 yrs old if not here is your ticket (fine) that is what leases are doing.. [/quote] I can't disagree with the argument about less than 13" bucks but with the east Texas habit of killing them at 1.5 years old, how do we know what is breeding with the does anyway. It is not like there is a lot of management going on in east Texas. I know that some leases do some good managing but for everyone that does, there are probably 5 or more that kill everything that moves. Even worse is the leases that still exist that kill every bucks that is foolish enough to peep out from behind a bush but let all of the does walk. I wish they would go by aging the deer and/or a main beam length in addition to the 13" spread. The problem with that is, the hunters that will have a hard time even seeing what it outside the ears in order to get to the magical 13". I think the current new AR's are just the easy way out. I also think that given a chance, these AR will work. Not perfect but it will work.