mat

Looks like my link may work tonight

Unless he lands an AD job somewhere, I can think of a better job than the OC of WOS, not to mention state champ track coach.

I can't vote but I've lobbied to my S I10 friends

[quote name="basketball25" post="1003160" timestamp="1304007767"] [Hidden Content] [/quote] Shields has the record but the fact that it was not in the UFC has people doubting him. Plus GSP is the #2 PFP fighter for a reason. It'll be a good fight. The last UFC Fight I found a streaminng site on line to watch. I hope it works again this time around.

[quote name="mat" post="1003089" timestamp="1303993885"] For years I've thought state forced consolidation may be inevitable because of WOC academic and financial problems. It’s too early to tell but I’m going to stay optimistic about Colbert turning the district around. [/quote] I forgot to include the new future board members to my optimism.  ;D

For years I've thought state forced consolidation may be inevitable because of WOC academic and financial problems. It’s too early to tell but I’m going to stay optimistic about Colbert turning the district around.

Protect yout burger fries and drink!!!  :o

He has risen indead

[quote name="Hupernikomen" post="1000986" timestamp="1303427136"] I wager that scores of [b]schools will be competing for each others kids for the 1st time the next couple of years[/b].  The state money follows the kid.  The property tax money is a fraction of that and the poster above said is zero for those renting or living with relatives. [/quote] Its already happening. Have you seen any of the school district commercials on TV?

[quote name="Hupernikomen" post="1000610" timestamp="1303354037"] [quote author=JohnnyT60 link=topic=82980.msg1000482#msg1000482 date=1303335658] [quote author=Hupernikomen link=topic=82980.msg999853#msg999853 date=1303262052] [quote author=JohnnyT60 link=topic=82980.msg999436#msg999436 date=1303225662] Reducing coaching positions has a minimal impact on the budget. Assuming you eliminate 4 positions, that would only reduce your budget by $14,000. At what cost, many of these children look to their coaches for guidance and leadership because they don't get it at home. I see a lot of panick going on, this is a temp economic downfall. Sure the belt needs to be tightend where it can, but no decisions, I repeat, no decisions should be made that have long term effects on campus. The rainy day fund will pick up some this year and administrators will have time to make adjustments going forward. Coaching seems to be the easy target, but really with little impact on the budget. [/quote] [b]4 positions equals more like 200k[/b].  Districts who cut these positions will not be keeping the employee for other purposes.  I am sure that there are many, many coaches who would gladly give up athletics and just stay on in their other roles for the district.  This will not be the case. Somethings to ponder.. In 07-08 Texas was 41st in per pupil spending among the States.  In that same year we were 48th in taxation (sales, income, excess etc.) The year before in 06 Texas came up with a new funding system that reduced everyone's property tax across the state by 1/3rd.  (Federal court cases made them come up with new funding system) --this was to be replaced by a business tax.  (it brings in BILLIONS LESS than what was promised) --they forced your county appraisal district to appraise "fairly" at that same time.  How has that worked out for you?  I now have a lower tax rate and a home that has grown in value @ 50% in the last 5 years.  Do the math and you can see that "tax break" has evaporated. On to the business tax.  [url=[Hidden Content] letter to Perry tells you all need to know.[/url]  (Notice the 2006 date on this one folks, this was our previous Comptroller telling Perry at the fallacy of their plan.) The bottom line is Texas has always expected schools to do more with less and now they are demanding even more with even less and blaming the need for less on anyone they can point a finger at:  over-abundance of administrators, over-abundance or specialists, over-abundance of coaches, and over-abundance of every other position in the district. Why not fund education at a level that the constitution demands?   Of course we have some fluff that can be trimmed.  Every organization does.  Trust me it is being trimmed. Shouldn't we be demanding that the State provide those billions they promised whenever they rewrote the public funding laws?   [/quote] Not if they continue to teach. You are only removing the coaching stipend. All I have read is how cutting coaches will trim the budget. What I have tried to stress is that most, especially the young ones teach also. I don't believe anyone is supporting of cutting teachers. Coaches seem to be the easy targets. yet will result in very little of a budget reduction. [/quote] I agree that no one is supporting the cuts.  Where coaches are going to be squeezed is the situations where they aren't in the classroom or more than are needed are in the gym to man PE classes.  There definitely will be fewer coaches on staffs because many districts have multiple coaches per PE class.  Right or wrong this will be part of the outcome of this budget crunch.  Any perspective coach should heed this warning and make yourself valuable by being able to teach in a regular classroom.  PE jobs are going to be few and far between in the years ahead. [/quote] As long as PE is required coaches are needed in the gym, not multiple coaches at a time, but coaches are needed. Another way to look at things; a coach that teaches fills the classroom spot. Then you also get a sport coach for a little stipend. Double value

[quote name="One4All" post="1000590" timestamp="1303351540"] Community got what they wanted .........I hope they ready!!!!!! [/quote] they ready

Keep it up "I don't play well with Jaguars" You' catch up with Scooter soon.  :D

[quote name="td" post="1000438" timestamp="1303331446"] All of the negative things about the Super and or the process should have never been said. Not to mention the things that weren't said but implied and most of you know exactly what I mean. [/quote] yep

[quote name="td" post="1000420" timestamp="1303330395"] Maybe we will all give the Super a chance to do the job he was hired to do. [/quote] Agreed

[quote name="leonard sly" post="1000328" timestamp="1303320081"] If/when it'll be state ruled, county wide, each school will keep it's identity IMO. Might be triggered by financial problems....just like Stark and WO, again just my opinion. [/quote] Probably so

I completely disagree. Few are divided over those two choices even though most have a preference. Unless you have some inside knowledge its not safe to assume this is splitting the WOS coaching staff. And why would Toby apply for select AD positions with other programs and not show interest in WOS? This type of thing happens all the time in athletics and education; multiple applicants for the same position within a district.

[quote name="oldollie" post="999597" timestamp="1303241285"] LCM was 7-3 last season and have been greatly improved since the arrival of Coach Crouch and his staff. So lets use the term " even more improved" instead of "will start improving":D [/quote] That^^^^

So you really are worried about the WOS thread catching yours  ;)

[quote name="Scooter!" post="999398" timestamp="1303221701"] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=82860.msg999394#msg999394 date=1303221220] I was wrong, Young is at PAM. [/quote]He aint going anywhere. Not with the team Memorial will have, they have a GREAT chance to win the region next season. [/quote] WOS has a shot at winning region every year

[quote name="smitty" post="999344" timestamp="1303217177"] You are missing the big picture.  A school COULD drop all extra curricular activities.  Remember, football is just a game.  Kids are there for an education.  Schools are at the mercy of the tax payers.  That's why we MUST elect school board members.  So, fair and advantages mean absolutely nothing!!   PS - If it still bothers you, let's have the State require that schools can only have 7 HS football coaches.  Now, every pne has the same!!     ;) [quote author=mat link=topic=82980.msg999244#msg999244 date=1303172212] [quote author=smitty link=topic=82980.msg999153#msg999153 date=1303158505] Good!  So have the board tell the district you will only have 6-7 coaches on the HS level and 2 each for 8th and 9th grade.  They can be whatever teachers they are... [quote author=speechless link=topic=82980.msg999124#msg999124 date=1303154123] Did you know that most coaches are History teachers which is a core subject? [/quote] [/quote] Maybe a good idea in theory but when your team has six coaches and you're going against teams that has had ten coaches all season you will be at a disadvantage. And then when your team falls short people will want to replace the AD, OC, DC etc. The same folks at say there's to much emphasis on athletics. [/quote] [/quote] Once again, there's theory and reality. Much of school funding is based on ADA (average daily attendance) With so many school offering open enrollment these days to attract ADA, drop your extra curricular activities and student will move to districts that offers extra curricular activities. If a single district choses to eliminate extra curricular activities they will lose students and money.

[quote name="smitty" post="999153" timestamp="1303158505"] Good!  So have the board tell the district you will only have 6-7 coaches on the HS level and 2 each for 8th and 9th grade.  They can be whatever teachers they are... [quote author=speechless link=topic=82980.msg999124#msg999124 date=1303154123] Did you know that most coaches are History teachers which is a core subject? [/quote] [/quote] Maybe a good idea in theory but when your team has six coaches and you're going against teams that has had ten coaches all season you will be at a disadvantage. And then when your team falls short people will want to replace the AD, OC, DC etc. The same folks at say there's to much emphasis on athletics.

[quote name="basketball25" post="998791" timestamp="1303075302"] Gsp toughest fight ever, shields has 15 straight wins and makes it 16!!!!!, coUtorE, Aldo,brilz,Henderson. [/quote] Thats a bold upset prediction. I don't think so

Champ[b] Georges St-Pierre[/b] vs. Jake Shields      may go the distance though  UFC Welterweight Championship Champ [b]Jose Aldo [/b] vs. Mark Hominick UFC Featherweight Championship Randy Couture vs. [b]Lyoto Machida[/b]  Not really sure [b]Jason Brilz [/b] vs. Vladimir Matyushenko [b]Ben Henderson[/b] vs. Mark Bocek

[quote name="WOSgrad" post="998767" timestamp="1303071423"] [quote author=mat link=topic=83252.msg998755#msg998755 date=1303067729] At the end of the process which statement from the new superintendent would sound like a superintendant to lead WOC into the future? Not to mention the most credible statement supporting the new AD. [i]“After carefully reviewing both district applicants and considering the public opinion I recommend Cornell Thompson for the AD position for WOC” “After careful review of all of the qualified candidates from the state of Texas I recommend Cornell Thompson for the AD position for WOC”[/i] One thing is for certain, after he weathers this storm he should have smooth sailing (providing he makes the right choice) because there will be nowhere near the interest or scrutiny in future topics; such as layoffs, budget, principal selections, test scores, etc, you know, the less important topics. I’m not a Colbert supporter but I will be patient and give him a legitimate chance to lead the way before calling for his head. [/quote] Neither, this would be the wording of that statement: [i]President Amy and ladies and gentlemen of the school board, the job of athletic director of the WO-C CISD and and football coach at West Orange-Stark High School was a very sought after position. In opening the application process to the public, we received the applications of ___ individuals who possessed the desire and confidence to help guide our children in their education here in the WO-C CISD.  I authorized the release of this list of applicant so that the parents and taxpayers of this district could see for themselves the high quality of the individuals who wished so much to join their community that they have engaged in this application process.  This was an important decision and in doing so carefully considered the qualifications of the applicants. I also sought input from the residents of the WO-C CISD, alumni of West Orange-Stark High School and the coaching fraternity.  After doing so, I am confident that we have best individual to guide our athletic program into the future.  Ladies and gentlemen of the school board, I recommend Cornel Thompson to be the next athletic director for the West Orange-Cove Consolidated Independent School District and the next head football coach at West Orange-Stark High School.[/i] [/quote] Well I certainly agree with your example of a hiring statement too but I can’t help but consider that a newly hired leader with no knowledge or history with the district will have to go through a process that he can be confident in. I’ll try to continue to keep an optimistic view until proven different. And as far as transparency is concerned, I think it is too soon to say he has not delivered. It appears people are uncomfortable because the transparency has not met their expected timeline.

At the end of the process which statement from the new superintendent would sound like a superintendant to lead WOC into the future? Not to mention the most credible statement supporting the new AD. [i]“After carefully reviewing both district applicants and considering the public opinion I recommend Cornell Thompson for the AD position for WOC” “After careful review of all of the qualified candidates from the state of Texas I recommend Cornell Thompson for the AD position for WOC”[/i] One thing is for certain, after he weathers this storm he should have smooth sailing (providing he makes the right choice) because there will be nowhere near the interest or scrutiny in future topics; such as layoffs, budget, principal selections, test scores, etc, you know, the less important topics. I’m not a Colbert supporter but I will be patient and give him a legitimate chance to lead the way before calling for his head.