thetragichippy

[quote name="elhector1" post="1289649" timestamp="1349280297"] [quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=103796.msg1289586#msg1289586 date=1349275696] [quote author=elhector1 link=topic=103796.msg1289569#msg1289569 date=1349274668] [quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=103796.msg1289528#msg1289528 date=1349272201] [quote author=elhector1 link=topic=103796.msg1289524#msg1289524 date=1349271967] I think holding your kid accountable is part of parenting...you hold him accountable for his performance here and in the classroom...nothing wrong with that... Do you hold him accountable, though, if he does everything as he is supposed to, and then the team still loses big?  Or because someone thinks they are "dogs"?...Sadly, smash, [b]there are some out there that do[/b]...having nothing to do with performance, and instead bust their kids on perception... [/quote] You may OR may not be correct in your [b]assumption[/b]...however, that will go on (if it is even the case) whether or not silly point spreads are projected. Why don't you just advocate getting rid of keeping score in Pee Wee age ball altogether? [/quote] Winning and losing is part of growing up...scores are part of that... Dogging a team before the game, though...that's different.  Having worked with kids, they know when they are being dogged.  As adults, we deal with insults all day long, and dish right back.  How does a kid that sees this though, (and you know they will) insult someone like Ocho back, since he is an adult?  On the field for sure, but how does that play here?  Maybe an "Ocho gets dogged" thread when he is way wrong? [/quote] Do you wear panties? [/quote] Nope...adult "Underoos" with pictures of a young Pamela Anderson on them...quite comfortable, really... [/quote] ;D :o

[quote name="SmashMouth" post="1289523" timestamp="1349271879"] [quote author=thetragichippy link=topic=103796.msg1289504#msg1289504 date=1349270820] [quote author=SmashMouth link=topic=103796.msg1289489#msg1289489 date=1349269973] [quote author=elhector1 link=topic=103796.msg1287167#msg1287167 date=1349017470] [quote author=First Down link=topic=103796.msg1287145#msg1287145 date=1349016346] [quote author=Ocho link=topic=103796.msg1283974#msg1283974 date=1348837286] -Favs / + Dogs Lum R vs Ned G (-14) Lum W vs Bmt G (+20) Png G vs WOS W (-6) Png P vs Ned W (-27) Png W vs Ned B (-22) BC R vs Ktz (+6) BC W vs BMT B (-48) LC vs VID (+16) OF W vs OF O (+13) [/quote] Is this the line that Vegas has set. ::) Point spreads on Pee Wee football?    C'mon Man!!! [/quote] If all of us that read this board were well balanced adults, capable of loving our kids without any of it relating to ball, I could see this as "tongue in cheek", and even fun.  I see this though, as something way serious, and not "for fun"...I can see some crazy daddy or momma, though, taking these numbers way too seriously, and abusing their kid over it.  No, the author of the spreads didn't beat the kid, but can it be a contributing factor?  Just look at the mentality of some in Tustin, CA... [/quote] When the game is over, my son and I break down the film together and evaluate his performance. If he doesn't perform to his abilities, he is punished. What's wrong with that? Shouldn't he be accountable for his performance??? [/quote] joking? If not...... It's a game.  I usually agree with your post but not this one. We also watch the film and look at his individual performance. We point out his good plays and discuss what he could of done better. The only punishment he would EVER get would be losing his starting position.......or hard agility drills on Mondays practice...... [/quote] Of course, I was just joking. I was pointing out how ridiculous elhector's comments about the social  harms of point spreads on a meaningless social board sound by posting an equally ridiculous comment about punishing my son for a poor performance.  In reality, win or lose, I hug him and kiss him square on the lips (I'm not a pedophile either, elhector) and I tell him how proud of him I am. We may or may not watch the film together, and I may tell him if I thought he played to his potential, but I never degrade or demean him because of a football game. I have been known to slap him around or touch a hot iron to the bottom of his feet for a bad practice though... ;D [/quote] I guess I didn't have my coffee this morning..... Bottom line....Its all in fun....... I think elhector1's point is the minority....I think 99.9% of the parents love their kids and would not hurt them over a game of football.

[quote name="SmashMouth" post="1289489" timestamp="1349269973"] [quote author=elhector1 link=topic=103796.msg1287167#msg1287167 date=1349017470] [quote author=First Down link=topic=103796.msg1287145#msg1287145 date=1349016346] [quote author=Ocho link=topic=103796.msg1283974#msg1283974 date=1348837286] -Favs / + Dogs Lum R vs Ned G (-14) Lum W vs Bmt G (+20) Png G vs WOS W (-6) Png P vs Ned W (-27) Png W vs Ned B (-22) BC R vs Ktz (+6) BC W vs BMT B (-48) LC vs VID (+16) OF W vs OF O (+13) [/quote] Is this the line that Vegas has set. ::) Point spreads on Pee Wee football?    C'mon Man!!! [/quote] If all of us that read this board were well balanced adults, capable of loving our kids without any of it relating to ball, I could see this as "tongue in cheek", and even fun.  I see this though, as something way serious, and not "for fun"...I can see some crazy daddy or momma, though, taking these numbers way too seriously, and abusing their kid over it.  No, the author of the spreads didn't beat the kid, but can it be a contributing factor?  Just look at the mentality of some in Tustin, CA... [/quote] When the game is over, my son and I break down the film together and evaluate his performance. If he doesn't perform to his abilities, he is punished. What's wrong with that? Shouldn't he be accountable for his performance??? [/quote] joking? If not...... It's a game.  I usually agree with your post but not this one. We also watch the film and look at his individual performance. We point out his good plays and discuss what he could of done better. The only punishment he would EVER get would be losing his starting position.......or hard agility drills on Mondays practice......

hmmm...work computer.....got it now

[quote name="bwl4335" post="1289163" timestamp="1349214448"] [quote author=thetragichippy link=topic=103700.msg1289150#msg1289150 date=1349213773] [quote author=Birddogtx link=topic=103700.msg1288687#msg1288687 date=1349185491] Scores are up! [/quote] It appears only Jr.'s scores are up. I guess they are waiting to go 3 weeks behind before they post the stats......It builds tension....... ::) [/quote] They have all been up since this morning.  ??? [/quote] Not Senior.......... 2012 STJFL Senior Tackle League Standings Last Updated on Monday, September 17, 2012 10:27 PM 2012 STJFL Senior Tackle Schedule Last Updated on Monday, September 17, 2012 10:27 PM Just so you think I'm not crazy....... 2012 STJFL Junior Tackle Schedule Last Updated on Monday, October 01, 2012 10:35 PM  :o

[quote name="Birddogtx" post="1288687" timestamp="1349185491"] Scores are up! [/quote] It appears only Jr.'s scores are up. I guess they are waiting to go 3 weeks behind before they post the stats......It builds tension....... ::)

[quote name="bradyb" post="1288666" timestamp="1349184398"] [quote author=elhector1 link=topic=103771.msg1288303#msg1288303 date=1349132292] If every parent were normal and took it like Tragichippy did, I would almost agree... For the older kids, 13-14, this is part of the game...ehhhh, no it's not.  Spreads are for betting, and if there is betting going on which uses the spreads posted here, it IS a violation of the rules... That would be the least of it... Again, if every parent were normal, 1.  They wouldn't take the sport seriously, and remember that it is a game; 2.  They wouldn't give their kids grief over it, but we know better, don't we? 3.  Coaches wouldn't get stpid like they did in Tustin, CA.  You want to know what lessons will be learned from that?  Just that you have to find a better way to keep it on the down low, and you have to vet the dads and moms a lot better to insure that there isn't a wuss in there somewhere to mess up the sanctity of football. I've coached before...my job was to get those kids ready to play ball, and have a good time doing it.  (Of course, I was a flag coach).  It wasn't to win at all costs, it wasn't to make the other team look like fools.  Though even in the flag ranks there were those who would teach their kids to tackle a breakaway run instead of pulling their flags, I didn't teach that.  If I was a bad coach, so be it.  My job wasn't to wear tight polyester shorts and shirt, and my old letterman's jacket, while pointing to all the flag, pee wee, and other trophies MY PLAYERS had won.  If they earned them, awesome...but at the end of the year, it was the best feeling to have a kid want to come back the following year, because I gave a d*** as a coach. Spreads?  Good for putting on bread, and bookies... [/quote] Lol I'm pretty sure the spreads that the people do on here has nothing to do with gambling lol. Pretty sure it is their opinion on how many points a team will win by lol [/quote] Good post Elhector, and I also agree with you to a certain point.  I also agree with Braby (and REALLY hope we are correct) in stating that there is no gambling going on with the spreads.....I think it's all for fun.... I've been very fortunate to have worked with coaches that do put the kids first and teach the game. I know there are bad seeds out there, I just hope it's minimal.

[quote name="Farmer Fran" post="1288130" timestamp="1349120618"] [quote author=hvac_setx link=topic=103771.msg1283455#msg1283455 date=1348775959] Here's my take for Juniors (picks in RED): [color=#ff0000]LUM-R[/color] vs.    NED-G    (+24) [color=#ff0000]LUM-W [/color] vs.    BMT-G  (+40) PNG-G vs.      [color=#ff0000]VID-W[/color]  (-8)  PNG-P  vs.    [color=#ff0000]NED-B [/color]  (-24) [color=#ff0000]PNG-W[/color]  vs.    BMT-B    (+12) BC-R  vs.    [color=#ff0000]KTZ[/color]  (-18)  [color=#ff0000]BC-W[/color] vs.      VID-B    (+6) LC vs.    [color=#ff0000]WOS  [/color](-21)  [color=#ff0000]OF  [/color]vs.    NED-W  (+14) [/quote] Vegas has set the line.. ::) Point spreads on pee wee football. Unfreakin real!!! ::) ::) [/quote] I use to think the same thing........but it's all in fun...... I don't predict scores, but I see no harm in it....it's not breaking any rules.. and this is Jr. not peewee  ;)

[quote name="wish u knew! Don't YA!" post="1287115" timestamp="1349013000"] [quote author=CowboysNIndians link=topic=103579.msg1286907#msg1286907 date=1348973880] Is that a final on L-town? [/quote] YES, BIG game next week.... PNG-W vs Lumbeton-B, I will have to give eage to PNG-W. Looks like White was able to shut down Lumberton-B fullback.  PNG-W will do the same. With no speed to get around outside PNG-W 30-Lumberton-B 18... [/quote] you still have to score ;)

fumble for a RAIDER touch down..... 8)

[quote name="First Down" post="1284872" timestamp="1348880630"] [quote author=thetragichippy link=topic=103813.msg1284864#msg1284864 date=1348880539] 13 -7 Raiders [/quote] :o :o [/quote] Crickets ;D

13 -7 Raiders

3 plays 56 yards...TD RAIDERS  :o

[quote name="Bobby Boucher" post="1284807" timestamp="1348879939"] Better find out who those boys are in the Raiders uniforms....no way they scored a TD. [/quote] lol

[quote name="PN-G bamakid" post="1284769" timestamp="1348879525"] TD Indians; 7-0 Port Neches-Groves 5:45 1st [/quote] TD Raiders....... 8) Tied 7-7 :-*

[quote name="Bmt Pride" post="1280954" timestamp="1348514483"] maybe i should have started with a disclaimer in this day and age. lol Bmt Pride can not be held responsible for, and expressly disclaims all liability for, damages of any kind arising out of use, reference to, or reliance of any information writing on this site. While the information may be fact, fiction, opinion or just simply pure smack talk, no guarantee is given that the information provided is correct, complete, and/or up-to-date.  ;D ;D ;D [/quote] +1

[quote name="Bmt Pride" post="1280901" timestamp="1348512680"] and maybe you didnt put words in my mouth but it sounded like you were claiming that i was associated with that rant by Dawgs, which i had nothing to do with other than adding a lil fuel to the fire. [/quote] lol.....I completely understand......and smack is good.......Dawgs may carry it a little far sometimes 8) 8) ;D

[quote name="Bmt Pride" post="1280868" timestamp="1348511483"] [quote author=thetragichippy link=topic=102859.msg1280849#msg1280849 date=1348510934] [quote author=Bmt Pride link=topic=102859.msg1280829#msg1280829 date=1348510408] [quote author=cantbeat23 link=topic=102859.msg1280749#msg1280749 date=1348507684] bmt pride, your arrogance sickens me. a true leader leads by example, talk is cheap just shut up and play the game if you have the better team it will show up in the end, your setting a bad example for your kids and your community by coming on here and bragging about how your # 1 blah blah blah you havent played anyone yet.. no disrespect to the teams that you have played vidor, kountze, wos-b and lumberton red. but they have a combined record of 3-16. yall have the potential to when it all, but like ive told my son since he's been 5 all potential means is you havent done anything yet. C'MON MAN have a little class cause on any givin sat, you might be the better team, but the better team might win that day... JMO [/quote] 1. Arrogant, no. Impressed with and proud of the skills and talent of a wonderful group of kids, yes. 2. I am not a coach of any bmt team nor do i have a kid on one. My son is in middle school and i have a nephew on Bmt B. 3. This is an adult forum so how can it be a bad example for kids? 4. This is a sports forum to talk about sports, aka "bragging board" 5. Bmt B is a "GREAT" team and will prove it. Bmt has basically had nothing worth talking about since it got in the league. [b]It has sat here listening to all other schools, including yours im sure, bragging and talk smack every year about there "oh so great team.[/b] Now that Bmt has a great team and get on here and brag about it, you wanna shut us up. Ha, yea, ok. 6. This smack talking is all in fun between adults, until someone like you gets on here and ruins it. [/quote] No dog in the fight, but I monitor the forum fairly often.  I could not find a post in 2012 that bashed the Beaumont team before September 10, 2012, 11:15:11 AM, when Dawgs of Blue posted his thread claiming bashing. Maybe you can find one and prove me wrong.  It seems the bashing of Beaumont may be self inflicted........... My son is 11 years old and I let him read the forum because of the following rule: 3) THIS BOARD IS RATED "G"! Watch the language! Remember that there are members of all ages reading these forums. If there is any doubt in your mind whether a word may be objectionable ... find another word. Obscenity and profanity are good ways to get you banned. You may want to go back and read the rules 8) [/quote] Dont put words in my mouth. I said other teams have "bragged and talked smack". Neither of which have anything to do with whatever it is your talking about bashing beaumont. also i have read rule 8 as well as the others and no bad language has been used so try again on your attempt to make me look bad. And thats all fine and dandy that your 11 year old looks on here. I have said nothing that an 11 year old should not see. [/quote] I was not trying to make you look bad, only responding to your public message.  You said this was an adult forum (see your #3), and I was just pointing out this is not just an adult forum and it could be bad for kids if they read some of the comments. The claiming of bashing came from dawgs... We as ADULTS, should try to set the example. There are 17 teams in all 4 divisions that are undefeated.  I have only heard Beaumont get upset because of the "smack" talk.  and I don't recall putting words in your mouth.....please point that out......

[quote name="Bmt Pride" post="1280829" timestamp="1348510408"] [quote author=cantbeat23 link=topic=102859.msg1280749#msg1280749 date=1348507684] bmt pride, your arrogance sickens me. a true leader leads by example, talk is cheap just shut up and play the game if you have the better team it will show up in the end, your setting a bad example for your kids and your community by coming on here and bragging about how your # 1 blah blah blah you havent played anyone yet.. no disrespect to the teams that you have played vidor, kountze, wos-b and lumberton red. but they have a combined record of 3-16. yall have the potential to when it all, but like ive told my son since he's been 5 all potential means is you havent done anything yet. C'MON MAN have a little class cause on any givin sat, you might be the better team, but the better team might win that day... JMO [/quote] 1. Arrogant, no. Impressed with and proud of the skills and talent of a wonderful group of kids, yes. 2. I am not a coach of any bmt team nor do i have a kid on one. My son is in middle school and i have a nephew on Bmt B. 3. This is an adult forum so how can it be a bad example for kids? 4. This is a sports forum to talk about sports, aka "bragging board" 5. Bmt B is a "GREAT" team and will prove it. Bmt has basically had nothing worth talking about since it got in the league. [b]It has sat here listening to all other schools, including yours im sure, bragging and talk smack every year about there "oh so great team.[/b] Now that Bmt has a great team and get on here and brag about it, you wanna shut us up. Ha, yea, ok. 6. This smack talking is all in fun between adults, until someone like you gets on here and ruins it. [/quote] No dog in the fight, but I monitor the forum fairly often.  I could not find a post in 2012 that bashed the Beaumont team before September 10, 2012, 11:15:11 AM, when Dawgs of Blue posted his thread claiming bashing. Maybe you can find one and prove me wrong.  It seems the bashing of Beaumont may be self inflicted........... My son is 11 years old and I let him read the forum because of the following rule: 3) THIS BOARD IS RATED "G"! Watch the language! Remember that there are members of all ages reading these forums. If there is any doubt in your mind whether a word may be objectionable ... find another word. Obscenity and profanity are good ways to get you banned. You may want to go back and read the rules 8)

[quote name="cantbeat23" post="1280749" timestamp="1348507684"] bmt pride, your arrogance sickens me. a true leader leads by example, talk is cheap just shut up and play the game if you have the better team it will show up in the end, your setting a bad example for your kids and your community by coming on here and bragging about how your # 1 blah blah blah you havent played anyone yet.. no disrespect to the teams that you have played vidor, kountze, wos-b and lumberton red. but they have a combined record of 3-16. yall have the potential to when it all, but like ive told my son since he's been 5 all potential means is you havent done anything yet. C'MON MAN have a little class cause on any givin sat, you might be the better team, but the better team might win that day... JMO [/quote] +1

Lumberton W  25 Beaumont        19

[quote name="Gucci" post="1277804" timestamp="1348265876"] [quote author=thetragichippy link=topic=103329.msg1277800#msg1277800 date=1348265559] [quote author=Gucci link=topic=103329.msg1277798#msg1277798 date=1348265272] [quote author=Stangpride link=topic=103329.msg1277735#msg1277735 date=1348259711] Well at our middle school the coaches are horrible, our little league coaches worked those kids harder then they do! Why is it little league coaches put all those years in these kids & middle school coaches dont even ask them which kids play where!! [/quote]Because little league is daddy ball. Why would they ask you what position your kid played in your offense. Ex: Should Lumberton Middle School run the SQUAT because that's all their Little League football players know.. :D [/quote] Nice......two coaches do that offense.......Not a representation of the Entire Lumberton Program..... But, now that you bring it up.......how many superbowls has it got them? [/quote]Not as many as WOS....lol [/quote] lol.......+1

[quote name="Gucci" post="1277798" timestamp="1348265272"] [quote author=Stangpride link=topic=103329.msg1277735#msg1277735 date=1348259711] Well at our middle school the coaches are horrible, our little league coaches worked those kids harder then they do! Why is it little league coaches put all those years in these kids & middle school coaches dont even ask them which kids play where!! [/quote]Because little league is daddy ball. Why would they ask you what position your kid played in your offense. Ex: Should Lumberton Middle School run the SQUAT because that's all their Little League football players know.. :D [/quote] Nice......two coaches do that offense.......Not a representation of the Entire Lumberton Program..... But, now that you bring it up.......how many superbowls has it got them?

The only ones talking about Beaumont......is Beaumont....lol

[quote name="One4All" post="1275244" timestamp="1347992130"] read his post, that should  answer your own question,,, [/quote] My point was he speaks of everyone getting personal with him, when in fact, it appears he takes things way too personal..... Just my humble opinion