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Hey DOVE X - Live to fight another day! New Black Panthers town hall meeting postponed Scott Lawrence The New Black Panthers have postponed their planned town hall meeting in Silsbee, according to Quanell X, the group's spokesman. The organization had planned the meeting for Thursday night at 6:30 at the Prince Hall Masonic Lodge, MLK and 15th Street in Silsbee, to hear from people who believe they have been mistreated by the Lumberton Police Department. The town hall meeting was to be a followup to Monday's protest in Lumberton of the death of Kevin LaDay. He died on April 30 following a struggle with Lumberton Police who were trying to detain him. The police chief say the officers did nothing wrong. Quanell X and the LaDay family claim LaDay was beaten. An autopsy report is pending the toxicology results. Quanell X told KFDM News a Texas official representing the Prince Hall Masonic Lodges told the local group not to allow him to speak or it would risk losing its charter. . "I didn't want to put them in that situation," Quanell X told KFDM News. "We're actively pursuing another venue as soon as possible."

I stand corrected.....(TVC lets nothing get by him ) Thanks TVC for proving my point even better~!

here is what we got so far: 1. tragichippy - TVC184 2. Raider 3 - partner 3. Cardinal Supporter - partner 4. VPbaseball#9 - partner OK FOLKS, TIME IS GETTING NEAR. WE ALREADY GOT 4 BOATS.........WE NEED 5 OR 6 MORE TO MAKE THIS FUN!!!!

he also went to state prison for dealing crack.... a felony... Would you defend a Klansman like you're defending TurdX? They are one and the same. See, this is one of the major differences in you and me. I'm willing to accept a *change* in a man's life such as George Wallace the obvious racist into George the human being. Whereas, you can accept X's old life as a drug dealer. Once you are able to move on from this old news, then maybe we can start discussing his politics more in detail. We might find that you and I aren't that far apart in agreement. But I won't hold my breath It is so clear that Dove supports the New Black Panthers and everything they represent. Good luck..........maybe one day, you will have your own nation, wont pay taxes, and your neighboors will be all the Black criminals that were let out of jail because lack of a fair trial.

Probably couldn't get a rental in Lumberton. People are nervous there already. After threatening to tear down the town (which they could not do), they didn't make a lot of friends in Lumberton. I think they will be safer in Silsbee until they make them mad.

I could steal $499.00 from you Dove and it would be a misdemeanor. It's still a crime. I wouldnt tell my son it's OK to steal as long as it's less than $500.00......because it's a misdemeanor........... jay walking is a .......................! I rest my case. You pick and choose what laws you wanna break, Afterall, thats apparently what your buddy X does.

The New Black Panthers have scheduled a town hall meeting Thursday night in Silsbee and say they want to hear from people who believe they've been mistreated by the Lumberton Police Department. Monday the New Black Panthers organized a demonstration outside the Lumberton Police Department to protest the death of Kevin LaDay, 35. LaDay's family contends he was beaten by two officers prior to his death Thursday, April 30, an allegation the police chief and other law enforcement officers strongly deny. Many of the people who attended the rally came to show their support for the department. The officers were called to investigate a car in a ditch off Highway 96 near the Village Creek Nursing Center and say they saw LaDay walking near the area. The police chief says the officers were trying to conduct a field sobriety test when LaDay ran away. The chief says there was a struggle and officers had to use a Taser at least once. The chief says LaDay appeared to be okay after the officers were able to handcuff him but he lost consciousness and died at a hospital. An autopsy report is pending toxicology results. The chief says officers acted properly in the way they handled the situation and he expects the investigation and the autopsy report to vindicate them. Thursday's meeting is scheduled for 6:30 p.m. at the Masonic Lodge at MLK and 15th Street in Silsbee.

I could steal $499.00 from you Dove and it would be a misdemeanor. It's still a crime. I wouldnt tell my son it's OK to steal as long as it's less than $500.00......because it's a misdemeanor...........

I'm familiar with the case. You also need to point out that he was found innocent of the charges. He was bring in a fugitive to justice. So obviously the man has some sort of sense about the law Nope, he was found guilty of a lesser charge...... Jurors Find Quanell X Guilty Activist Fined $300, Sentenced To Community Service POSTED: Monday, November 15, 2004 UPDATED: 6:19 pm CST November 15, 2004 HOUSTON -- Community activist Quanell X was convicted Monday of fleeing a police officer, a misdemeanor, in connection with the surrender of a police-shooting suspect, Local 2 reported.

I think one of their goals is to make it known that people are aware and watching the progress of the case and won't tolerate any shoddy investigations. Sometimes it's just a necessity to keep a good fix on a potential problem. It is what it is! It is what it is and your sugarcoating it. Crackdealer X is a thug, racist, no two ways about it. Don't try to put lipstick on a pig. Isn't he an ex-crack dealer? Thug? And how is he a racist? Courtesy of thetragichippy: Yeah I don't like #10. Has the feeling of a separtist movement. So you believe that all African Americans should be exempt from taxation, the draft (if it should ever be reinstated), and that all black criminals should be released from their prison cells and put back on the streets, simply because they're black? The idea of Texas's separation from the US was not racially motivated, it was motivated by a big, overbearing, overspending government and the losses of states' rights and firearm rights. It says "should be exempt from ALL TAXATION as long as we are deprived of equal justice......." And if you are referring to Texas' separation back to the Civil War, please don't spread such lies. I was not referring to Texas' secession during the Civil War. I was referring to the recent calls for secession during the "tea parties." So, again, you agree that African Americans should be exempt from taxation? Because of the lack of "equal justice"? Well, then why don't we all just stop filing our taxes? Justice is decided by the jury, and the government does its absolute best to make sure that a fair jury is provided. Isn't that why the lawyers question the jurors and then must approve their placement in the jury before the trial begins? It seems to me that this failsafe would prevent the practice of unequal justice. He's gonna say a white appointed attorney would not be fair representing a black person. :

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I'll make this as clean as possible An article(from 2004) showing the big ole brain on Quanell X: A judge decided Monday that police had sufficient reason to believe civil rights organizer Quanell X was trying to evade arrest earlier this month as he was bringing a shooting suspect to the police station for surrender. Quanell X maintains that he thought the police were surrounding his car with lights and sirens as a form of official escort to the downtown police station, where he was expected to bring the fugitive. In a courtroom packed with activists including several young men wearing military-style New Black Panther Party uniforms, prosecutors showed a police video of Quanell X driving a black Hummer in front of a patrol car, with its police lights and sirens activated, for more than a mile. Quanell X was arrested June 11 as he attempted to turn in Derrick Forney. Forney was wanted for the shooting of a Houston police officer.

I think one of their goals is to make it known that people are aware and watching the progress of the case and won't tolerate any shoddy investigations. Sometimes it's just a necessity to keep a good fix on a potential problem. It is what it is! It is what it is and your sugarcoating it. Crackdealer X is a thug, racist, no two ways about it. Don't try to put lipstick on a pig. I've tried a few chemistry projects in my day that I probably shouldnt have does that make me a thug or crackdealer? NO, dealing crack and being convicted of selling crack, and going to prison for dealing crack makes you a thug and a crack dealer. So once a racist-always a racist? Remember, George Wallace repented his old racist ways. Surely an ex crack dealer can do the same. I'm sure you can be an ex-crack dealer or an ex-racist. But he is not an ex-racist. He is a RACIST. Did you not read the 10 demandments?? Did you not hear his speech? I also heard(disclaimer: not sure if its true) that the Ladays family PAID him to come to Lumberton. So again, he is preying on the weak, taking their money, and probably putting them in a worse position than they were originally!

As of right now, its me, tvc and cardinal supporter. We need some commitments folks ;D

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Hey Raider, I plan on posting the number of boats/anglers on a daily basis. No point in making them post in two different locations...... I have not received a message from you yet. Are you going to fish it? If so, I need to know. If everyone waits till the last minute, it probably won't become a reality.

Here's what we got. We are still working on the rules, payouts and entry fee's, but here is what we have and what we need. 1. $25.00 Entry fee per boat - one or two people (one person must be SETXSPORTS member & 18YO) 2. Date is May 30th 3. Location will be Mill Creek or Twin Dikes. More than likely Mill Creek. 4. Time will probably be 6:00am - 2:00PM. 5. We will have a big bass pot, separate $5.00 or $10.00 if you want to participate. 6. Winner will be largest stringer, with a max of 5 fish. (this could change if someone has a better idea) 7. Regular bass tournament rules apply, more details to come. To determine payouts and places, we need to know how many fisherman we will have in this tournament. If you want (and CAN) fish this Tournament, please send me a personal message telling me you can fish it and if you have a partner. Try to do this as soon as possible. The quicker I get this information, the quicker TVC and I can nail this thing down with the rules and the payouts. Thanks and looking forward to a great tourney!

Stay tuned..........we are working out all the details. Looks like its gonna be May 30th.

ok so im a member of setxsports but im 13, so can i bring another guy that is like 29 and he can be my teammate? I would think that is ok, if not, then have your 29 yo buddy join setxsports.

I believe twin dikes is the closest........it's right off 96 on 255. I will be trailering my boat from toledo, its at my camp.

What jobs? speaking of gross generalizations... Bullets posting at 3:00am..........must of had a good saturday night!

Maybe. It is going to be 10 people in five boats or is it going to be 10 posters with some bringing friends/relatives and maybe have 8 boats? I think you can have a decent tournament that is really just for fun with a few boats. A maximum of five (especially with a no show bringing it to four) may be a different issue. I have fished a tournament with seven boats and it was fun and still competitive. If I get to fish it I would like to fish with my son-in-law. He is not a poster. The 31 ST is my wedding anniversary but I still may be able to get away for one day on the 30 TH. That day is only 4 weeks away so if this is going to become a reality then the details need to be finalized. Will there be an entry fee or are we just fishing for fun. What about prizes and the weigh in. All these things need to be finalized. Agreed............This is what I was thinking. $25.00 per boat (or per person, up for debate). If we do fresh, pay top 3. 100% of the money goes to winners. Largest stringer of 5 fish(bass). We could also have a $5.00 or $10.00 pot for the largest bass. TVC....what ya think?

This is from the "new black panther party". All I got to say is "WOW"!!! 10 Point Platform What the New Black Panthers Want What the New Black Panthers Believe 1. We want freedom. We want the power to practice self-determination, and to determine the destiny of our community and THE BLACK NATION. We believe in the spiritual high moral code of our Ancestors. We believe in the truths of the Bible, Quran, and other sacred texts and writings. We believe in MAAT and the principles of NGUZO SABA. We believe that Black People will not be free until we are able to determine our Divine Destiny. 2. We want full employment for our people and we demand the dignity to do for ourselves what we have begged the white man to do for us. We believe that since the white man has kept us deaf, dumb and blind, and used every “dirty trick†in the book to stand in the way of our freedom and independence, that we should be gainfully employed until such time we can employ and provide for ourselves.We believe further in: POWER IN THE HANDS OF THE PEOPLE! WEALTH IN THE HANDS OF THE PEOPLE! ARMS IN THE HANDS OF THE PEOPLE! 3. We want tax exemption and an end to robbery of THE BLACK NATION by the CAPITALIST. We want an end to the capitalistic domination of Africa in all of its forms: imperialism, criminal settler colonialism, neo-colonialism, racism, sexism, zionism, Apartheid and artificial borders. We believe that this wicked racist government has robbed us, and now we are demanding the overdue debt of reparations. A form of reparations was promised 100 years ago (forty acres and a mule) as restitution for the continued genocide of our people and to in meaningful measure and repair the damage for the AFRICAN HOLOCAUST (Maangamizo/Maafa). We believe our people should be exempt from ALL TAXATION as long as we are deprived of equal justice under the laws of the land and the overdue reparations debt remains unpaid. We will accept payment in fertile and mine rally rich land, precious metals, industry, commerce and currency. As genocide crimes continue, people’s tribunals must be set up to prosecute and to execute. The “Jews†were given reparations. The Japanese were given reparations. The Black, the Red and the Brown Nations must be given reparations. The American white man owes us reparations. England owes us reparations. France owes us reparations, Spain and all of Europe. Africa owes us reparations and repatriation. The Arabs owe us reparations. The “Jews†owe us reparations. All have taken part in the AFRICAN HOLOCAUST and the slaughter of 600 million of our people over the past 6,000 years in general and 400 year in particular. We know that this is a reasonable and just demand that we make at this time in history. 4. We want decent housing, fit for shelter of human beings, free health-care (preventive and maintenance). We want an end to the trafficking of drugs and to the biological and chemical warfare targeted at our people. We believe since the white landlords will not give decent housing and quality health care to our Black Community, the he housing, the land, the social, political and economic institutions should be made into independent UUAMAA “New African Communal/Cooperatives†so that our community, with government reparations and aid (until we can do for ourselves) can build and make drug free, decent housing with health facilities for our people. 5. We want education for our people that exposes the true nature of this devilish and decadent American society. We want education that teaches us our true history/herstory and our role in the present day society. We believe in an educational system that will give our people “a knowledge of self.†If we do not have knowledge of self and of our position in society and the world, then we have little chance to properly relate to anything else. 6. We want all Black Men and Black Women to be exempt from military service. We believe that Black People should not be forced to fight in the military service to defend a racist government that holds us captive and does not protect us. We will not fight and kill other people of color in the world who, like Black People, are being victimized by the white racist government of America. We will protect ourselves from the force and violence of the racist police and the racist military, “by any means necessary.†7. We want an immediate end to POLICE HARRASSMENT, BRUTALITY and MURDER of Black People. We want an end to Black-on-Black violence, “snitching,†cooperation and collaboration with the oppressor. We believe we can end police brutality in our community by organizing Black self-defense groups (Black People’s Militias/Black Liberation Armies) that are dedicated to defending our Black Community from racist, fascist, police/military oppression and brutality. The Second Amendment of white America’s Constitution gives a right to bear arms. We therefore believe that all Black People should unite and form and “African United Front†and arm ourselves for self-defense. 8. We want freedom for all Black Men and Black Women held in international, military, federal, state, county, city jails and prisons. We believe that all Black People and people of color should be released from the many jails and prisons because they have not received a fair and impartial trial. ‘Released’ means ‘released’ to the lawful authorities of the Black Nation. 9. We want all Black People when brought to trial to be tried in a court by a jury of their peer group or people from their Black Communities, as defined by white law of the Constitution of the United States. We believe that the courts should follow their own law, if their nature will allow (as stated in their Constitution of the United States) so that Black People will receive fair trials. The 6th Amendment of the United States Constitution gives a man/woman a right to an impartial trial, which has been interpreted to be a “fair†trial by one’s “peer†group. A “peer†is a person from a similar economic, social, religious, geographical, environmental, historical and racial background. To do this, the court will be forced to select a jury from the Black Community from which the Black defendant came. We have been and are being tried by all white juries that have no understanding of the “average reasoning person†of the Black Community. 10. WE DEMAND AN END TO THE RACIST DEATH PENALTY AS IT IS APPLIED TO BLACK AND OPPRESSED PEOPLE IN AMERICA. WE DEMAND FREEDOM FOR ALL POLITICAL PRISONERS OF THE BLACK RED AND BROWN NATION! We want land, bread, housing, education, clothing, justice and peace. And, as our political objective, we want NATIONAL LIBERATION in a separate state or territory of our own, here or elsewhere, “a liberated zone†(“New Africa†or Africa), and a plebiscite to be held throughout the BLACK NATION in which only we will be allowed to participate for the purposes of determining our will and DIVINE destiny as a people. FREE THE LAND! “UP YOU MIGHTY NATION! YOU CAN ACCOMPLISH WHAT YOU WILL!†BLACK POWER! History has proven that the white man is absolutely disagreeable to get along with in peace. No one has been able to get along with the white man. All the people of color have been subjected to the white man’s wrath. We believe that his very nature will not allow for true sharing, fairness, equity and justice. Therefore, to the Red Man and Woman, to the Yellow and to the Brown, we say to you “THE SAME RABID DOG THAT BIT YOU, BIT US TOO!†ALL POWER TO THE PEOPLE

I'm glad you asked that question 77. I had no idea, so I googled it. I'll let what I found speak for itself. There Is No New Black Panther Party: An Open Letter From the Dr. Huey P. Newton Foundation In response from numerous requests from individual's seeking information on the "New Black Panthers," the Dr. Huey P. Newton Foundation issues this public statement to correct the distorted record being made in the media by a small band of African Americans calling themselves the New Black Panthers. As guardian of the true history of the Black Panther Party, the Foundation, which includes former leading members of the Party, denounces this group's exploitation of the Party's name and history. Failing to find its own legitimacy in the black community, this band would graft the Party's name upon itself, which we condemn. Firstly, the people in the New Black Panthers were never members of the Black Panther Party and have no legitimate claim on the Party's name. On the contrary, they would steal the names and pretend to walk in the footsteps of the Party's true heroes, such as Black Panther founder Huey P. Newton, George Jackson and Jonathan Jackson, Bunchy Carter, John Huggins, Fred Hampton, Mark Cark, and so many others who gave their very lives to the black liberation struggle under the Party's banner. Secondly, they denigrate the Party's name by promoting concepts absolutely counter to the revolutionary principles on which the Party was founded. Their alleged media assault on the Ku Klux Klan serves to incite hatred rather than resolve it. The Party's fundamental principle, as best articulated by the great revolutionary Ernesto "Che" Guevara, was: "A true revolutionary is guided by great feelings of love." The Black Panthers were never a group of angry young militants full of fury toward the "white establishment." The Party operated on love for black people, not hatred of white people. Furthermore, this group claims it would "teach" the black community about armed self-defense. The arrogance of this claim is overwhelmed by its reactionary nature. Blacks, especially in the South, have been armed in self-defense for a very long time; indeed, the spiritual parent of the Party itself was the Louisiana-based Deacons for Defense. However, the Party understood that the gun was not necessarily revolutionary, for the police and all other oppressive forces had guns. It was the ideology behind the gun that determined its nature. Because the Party believed that only the masses of people would make the revolution, the Party never presumed itself to be above the people. The Party considered itself a servant of the people and taught by example. Given massive black hunger, the Party provided free breakfast for children and other free food programs. In the absence of decent medical facilities in the black community, the Party operated free medical clinics. In the face of police brutality, the Party stood up and resisted. Considering the overwhelming number of blacks facing trials and long prison terms, the Party developed free legal aids and bussing-to-prison programs. The question the Foundation raises, then, is who are these people laying claim to the Party's history and name? Are they reactionary provocateurs, who would instigate activities counterproductive to the people's interests, causing mayhem and death? Are they entertainers, who would posture themselves before the media, and, according to numerous sources, with empty guns, to spin gold for themselves? Are they, given the history of their late-leader Khalid Muhammad, a group of anti-Semites like the very Ku Klux Klan they allegedly oppose? What is their agenda? Conditions for blacks in America today are worse than when the Black Panther Party was formed in 1966. Blacks in the main continue to live in poverty; disproportionate percentages of blacks die from AIDS and cancer, as the black infant mortality rate continues to be double that of whites. There is a desperate need for liberation agenda. The Black Panther Party unarguably set the example, espousing principles and a history that certainly should be embraced by all those still struggling for freedom. Rather than appropriating the Party's name, however, groups that purport to represent African Americans ought to follow the Party's true historical example. In the absence of such commitment, the Foundation denounces the usurpation of the Black Panther Party name by this questionable band of self-appointed leaders. For further reading on the Black Panther Party, please visit our website at www.blackpanther.org. Books by and about the Black Panthers can also be purchased online through this site. Suggested reading includes Revolutionary Suicide, To Die for the People, War Against the Panthers, This Side of Glory, and A Taste of Power.

LOL..great quote...I gotta remember that one for when the inlaws are over!! ;D BTW I saw that the autopsy report is inconclusive..The JP said they will have to wait for the toxicology report findings which can take up to 3 weeks...Maybe the panthers should make reservations so they won't miss anything : . Any 5 star hotels in that area?? Maybe they can stay at BlueDoves house..........