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Because belief is also a COMMAND.......

Hey, we agree.....it would be a shame, especially since he's had his whole life to SEEK The Truth.....to ASK about the Truth......

Yes, we are commanded to believe.....you can choose not to by your free will, but that comes with eternal consequences........you are full of contradictions....just saying you are not doesn't change that....... you have a good day as well......

It is a glaring contradiction.....the action of BELIEVING is commanded......so according to you, since you don't have to follow commandments in order to be saved, then you can be saved without believing.......your contradictions are showing...... I answered it......my Lord said that if that person had not been baptized, that person is lost.......I believe Him......

First, He says EXACTLY what He means.......you, on the other hand, contradict yourself in your first two statements above.... Yes, but I'm just repeating what My Lord said because I actually believe Him....... as THE LORD has said, DOING WHAT HE SAID TO DO isn't earning a thing......here it is again, in case you missed it..... Luke 17:10English Standard Version (ESV) 10 So you also, when you have done all that you were commanded, say, ‘We are unworthy servants;[a] we have only done what was our duty.’”

No, if you have been convicted by the Holy Spirit, who works through The Word, you will DO the action of repenting.......you didn't say anything near what Scripture says.......

Matthew 7:24-27English Standard Version (ESV) Build Your House on the Rock 24 “Everyone then who hears these words of mine and does them will be like a wise man who built his house on the rock. 25 And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house, but it did not fall, because it had been founded on the rock. 26 And everyone who hears these words of mine and does not do them will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand.27 And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell, and great was the fall of it.”

Repentance is an ACTION by us....... in Luke 13:3 it is an ACTION COMMANDED by Jesus......in Acts 2:38 in response to the question "what shall we DO"' Peter told them to repent and be baptized.....so God says repentance is an action...... God didn't make an error.....the error comes from the false teachers who say that God doesn't require us to DO WHAT HE SAID TO DO in order to be saved.....because IF you truly believe Him, you will DO WHAT HE SAID TO DO.......if you really believe, not just SAY you believe, then what holds you back from doing what He said to do???

According to JESUS....... Matthew 7:13-14English Standard Version (ESV) 13 “Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy[a] that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. 14 For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few

Following His commandments doesn't "earn" us anything....... Luke 17:10English Standard Version (ESV) 10 So you also, when you have done all that you were commanded, say, ‘We are unworthy servants;[a] we have only done what was our duty After we hear and BELIEVE His word (an action or work by the way), He tells us to REPENT of our past sins (another action or work)..... John 3:16.....Acts 2:38 He tells us to acknowledge or to CONFESS that He Is The Messiah ( yet another action or work)....... Romans 10:9 He tells us to be baptized for remission of sins (another action on our part)..... Acts 2:38......Acts 22:16......Mark 16:15-16...... He also tells us we must live faithful lives until we die (even more action by us)............Revelation 2:10 as you can see there are several things He REQUIRES us to do if we are to receive His freely offered gift of salvation.......not a one of them earns salvation, we are simply OBEYING our God.........and it's only confusing to those who want to be saved their way, not Gods Way......anyone with faith will DO WHAT GOD TOLD THEM TO DO........ The passage from James was not misused......it is one of those passages that show us how to live a faithful life........ you never answered about where is repentance in Romans 10:9.......

Read Luke from my previous post about earning anything......also, the passage you quoted mentions nothing about repentance......so evidently you can be saved without repenting according to your logic........works are a part of faithful living, and are required as well, not because they earn us anything, but because God COMMANDED it...... James 2:14-26English Standard Version (ESV) Faith Without Works Is Dead 14 What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what good[a] is that? 17 So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead. 18 But someone will say, “You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith apart from your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. 19 You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder! 20 Do you want to be shown, you foolish person, that faith apart from works is useless? 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered up his son Isaac on the altar? 22 You see that faith was active along with his works, and faith was completed by his works; 23 and the Scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness”—and he was called a friend of God. 24 You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone. 25 And in the same way was not also Rahab the prostitute justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out by another way? 26 For as the body apart from the spirit is dead, so also faith apart from works is dead. And no, the Lords Church is not a denomination by any definition of the word.....

We are trying to teach the lost....if you have not been baptized for the remission of your sins, you are NOT saved.....the Lord's Church is not one of your false, man made denominations, it's founding can be read about in Acts 2......... DOING what God said to do in order to receive His freely offered gift is not earning anything...... Luke 17:10English Standard Version (ESV) 10 So you also, when you have done all that you were commanded, say, ‘We are unworthy servants;[a] we have only done what was our duty.’ the he scripture mat posted tells us that when we approach God in prayer we should do so humbly..... James 4:10English Standard Version (ESV) 10 Humble yourselves before the Lord, and he will exalt you. when we stand for THE TRUTH, we are to do so boldly...... Ephesians 6:19English Standard Version (ESV) 19 and also for me, that words may be given to me in opening my mouth boldly to proclaim the mystery of the gospel, Always being ready to defend THE TRUTH 1 Peter 3:15English Standard Version (ESV) 15 but in your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect,

You could have left hours ago.......I said it five times.......lol....... you have a nice day, too.......

Doing what God told us to do is not a work........baptism is a COMMAND from God that saves us when our faith is deep enough to give up our preconceived notions and the false denominational teaching.... For the FIFTH time now, No, you are not saved if you are a member of one of the false,man made denominations.......SCRIPTURE shows that very clearly.......

Ive answered it four times already........read......

Both translations say the same thing.......both say very clearly that it is BAPTISM that saves us......both say very clearly that baptism is more than just getting wet.....both translations say that when we believe what Jeseus said, our conscience will lead us to obey His COMMAND to be baptized.........see the quotes from Colossians and Titus in previous posts.......they complement this passage nicely........

You say baptism doesn't save us......The a Holy Spirit speaking through Peter disagrees...... 1 Peter 3:21English Standard Version (ESV) 21 Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a good conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ,

Show me which ones change the meaning, please......I read them all in several versions and the meaning was the same.......I don't need some uninspired man to educate me, I have The Word of God.......

He may have been a member of a congregation of the church of Christ, but the Lord knows His own.......he most definitely was not a member of the Lords Church.....you aren't getting the concept.......God adds to His church those who obey.......men congregate together while alive on earth to worship and work together as part of living faithful lives......so he may have been in a congregation on earth, but unless he repented and turned back to God,he won't be there when Christ comes to claim His Bride, the Church......you can fool men, you can't fool God.....

Matthew 5:11-12English Standard Version (ESV) 11 “Blessed are you when others revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account. 12 Rejoice and be glad, for your reward is great in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you.

True, but when you go compare them to the same passages in the King James, you see that they were repetitive for the most part, and removing them didn't change the meaning of what was being taught......ESV footnotes it and puts it there as reference......this does show, though, why its important to use several translations in your studies.......

YOU said that.......there is no scriptural basis for the "gatekeepers into the promised land" shot, so no, I will not be telling anyone that.....

They are not Christians if they are actively engaged in these things which are described as sexual immorality by God......when they REPENT and obey God, they are forgiven.....there are no pedophiles or homosexuals in the Lord's Church......