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Learn English.....Assimilate  or leave.........simple as that........

From what I have read, he reported it to the BISD and they had taken no action.  Maybe if they had got on the ball and done something, the coach would not have had to resort to setting up a camera to catch the thief.  Seems like there is culpability with them as well.

I do see both sides of this argument as having valid points. The thing that I think people overlook with all three high schools in Beaumont is that there is not a real jr high program in Beaumont. The kids can basically go where they please. You will not have much success in the regular season or in the playoffs with that set up I don't care how good of a coach you are! Both coaches have done a pretty good job under the current circumstances surrounding them. Another thing I don't think people realize is how hard it probably is to get coaches to come to BISD. If you do want to talk history though here is a little history on both coaches and both programs that they run. First Flanigan, who has made the playoffs 3 of his 5 years at WB. This year he equalled the schools most win total in a single year in school history which was 11. He went three rounds in the playoffs which has happened only 3 times in 20 years. Ironically his record going into this season was 22-22 with zero playoff wins and many on here and in the community wanted him gone. The funny thing is they still do. Now Foreman who inherited a 5-15 program over the two years Pryor to his arrival. He has a 20-8 overall district record and finished as district co-champs in 2014 which has only happened four other times in schools history. He also is the only Coach at not only Central, but also French, BCP, CP, and Beaumont High, to make the playoffs four total times. The only coaches in the HISTORY of Beaumont Texas to make the playoffs four consecutive years are Alex Durley, Arthur Louis, Jerry Hentschel, Craig Stump, and Toby Foreman. People on this board wanted him gone the day he was hired and they still do. Also Central hasn't beaten WB since 2003. That was 5 coaches ago: Foreman, Washington, Jackson, and Stowers were all 0fer vs WB! You must know where you have been to understand where you are going! You can find negatives about both these guys, but under the current circumstances and state of BISD you are very lucky to have coaches that want to work here and conduct programs at a high level as they do. 

Coach Flanigan is a prominent employee of BISD.  Therefore, it is a BISD deal, if in fact there was actually a wrongful act.  And you posted earlier something to the effect of, How would they know when the cameras were on?   I'd think you could tell if you looked at the recordings.
As I understand it, from looking at this thread, it has yet to be determined if there was actually an unlawful act.  But IF the coach repeatedly reported this to someone(s) higher up, and nothing was done, then maybe there should be more folks on administrative leave.  Also, regardless of the legality of what the coach did, anyone involved in NOT addressing the stealing should be held accountable.  And understand, that would be my opinion regardless of what school district it happened in, Beaumont, Evadale, Vidor, Nederland, it doesn't matter.  All that said, I sincerely hope all this ends up being a big to do about nothing, except catching a thief.

I've mostly just read what's been said here as I'm a newbie on this board and don't live near most of the schools discussed.  But, for someone who supports the district, this in awful thing to say about two coaches trying to do their best to provide a great learning environment to their young charges, teach them life lessons and in the process help them win a few games.  Coaches aren't perfect people, but mostly they try to do their best and their personal life should be out of bounds.

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They can in Texas. I just read the law. 37 total states allow it.

A kid was stealing and the district turned its nose at it. So yea the district is very faulty.

Because if the district would've done something in the first place then the actual person wouldn't have had to resort to such extreme measures.

BMTSoulja1, I hate to have to point this out to you, but this is a public forum where any member can comment on any post here. This is not a BISD forum, that only BISD people can comment. With that said, I back Flanigan and I agree with NHSBulldog Fan.

Salty much??
BISD refused to listen to the coach they hired when he said there was a thief in the school. Guess they didnt learn their lesson with the last THIEF. So coach decides to protect his players. Same example as lean on me with Morgan freeman. What I was saying was it doesn't look good on BISD when a coach has to break the law to stop crime in the district because BISD refused to do anything about it.

He did talk to the player. He did report it to his admins. He had no proof to dismiss the kid. When admin did nothing, he made a decision (not a wise one) to catch the thief in the act.
If you already knew it was a student, why ask if it was a member of the coaching staff?

He set up a video camera in the football locker room which eventaully caught the thieves stealing things out of the locker room. He then turned the camera into Bisd but it back fired on him because it's a felony charge to put a camera in the locker room or bathrooms. There you have it!! 

Bottom line he reported the thefts multiple times to the administration and they did nothing, and now they want to throw a man under the bus for trying to protect his players from the worst kind of person...A THIEF.. 

No.

Why would anybody, and I do mean anybody, want to take a position in that district? You're set up for failure from the get go. I am extremely curious to see what this is about SMH.

I had an interesting conversation with a Raider fan about Coach Chris Babin recently where he expressed his dismay with him and was more impressed with Larry Haynes. Now, if you could see through my computer you would see my "REALLY" face. So Raider fans, let me tell you a little story. We hired a young coach and the very first year he was at Vidor, he took us to the playoffs. The second coming, we wanted to say. Sound familiar? However, after that initial year, it was 9 years before we made the playoffs again. We had some successful years but I believe the average over that span to be in the 3 - 7 range. A lot of people wanted his head. Now, most of us wouldn't trade Jeff Mathews for any coach in the area. You have a good, young coach who is from Lumberton and cares about the team. It takes time to build a program; years...especially if you have limited talent. We had the revolving coach thing centuries ago when I was in school. New coach every year = zero wins. IH 10 - Vidor / Lumberton 0. Stick with this coach and he'll get you there. It takes time, hard work and a little heartache. Mostly, it requires faith from the community because it is a community effort.  

The media and the Hollywood left both have lost much of their influence.   This was proven INDISPUTABLY by national as well a local elections.  Except for the die hard left, nobody cares about or considers what the New York Times or Jay Z say or think.

Let's see...better economy, lower taxes, more jobs, stronger military = comic material...I don't get it.
Must be a lib thing.

Tuesday
Tatum at Lufkin Hudson (basketball)
Friday
Fred Williams Classic at Beaumont Ozen
5pm West Brook vs. PA Memorial
6:30 Kountze vs. Beaumont Central
8pm  Pro Vision vs. Beaumont Ozen
Saturday
Beaumont West Brook vs. Spring Westfield in Baytown
Silsbee vs. Westbury Christian at Texas Jamboree at St. Thomas (basketball)

Don't be fooled......these punks are nothing but Brownshirt NAZI thugs and shoul be treated as such before we are doomed to repeat that era of history.......
 
 

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Onalaska beat Harmony Science
 
Hamshire Fannett beat Good Samaritan......
 
Today's Games:
9:30 Hadin vs. Hamshire-Fannett
12:30 West Hardin vs. Onalaska
3:30 Deweyville vs. Good Samaritan
6:30 High Island vs. Harmony Science

The very reason that the dems lost the presidency, the house, the senate, the governorships and the state legislatures.

I was not optimistic going into the elections, but the outcome was awesome. Democrats lose the Executive Branch, the Judicial Branch and couldn't take either Houses of Congress. And in the days that followed the election the news has just gotten better. For example:
-The failure of the Democrats to correctly identify that their obliteration is due to far, far left Progressive Liberals that have taken over their party and are vowing to move even further left. Please fulfill that promise.
-The rallying of the Democrats around Keith Ellison for DNC chair. Please elect him. Why? See statement above. In a sad note, Nancy "pass the Bill so we can read what's in it" Pelosi might be ousted. Please keep her.
-Progressive Liberals showing in full glory for the world to see their hypocrisy by demonstrating against the outcome of an election when just days before excoriating Trump supporters for possibly engaging in the same exact act.
-The Liberal Left Mainstream Media showing their hypocrisy for ignoring the rioting and assaults by Liberals, even trying to glorify these acts, and lying about Trump supporters committing hate crimes.
-Many Leftist pundits showing their biased Liberal agenda by stating that Trump, who has not even taken office yet, is responsible for quelling the hissy fit riots but gives Obama and Clinton a pass on responsibility of their own supporters. 
-Obama showing his full-throated hypocrisy for chastising Trump supporters for possibly questioning the outcome of the election as being a threat to Democracy, but when the Liberals throw a hissy fit for their loss, riot and assault people, his response is they should keep doing what they're doing.
-Professors/Teachers showing in full glory their leftist socialist agendas by coddling and giving special treatment to the little sunflowers that might be traumatized by the election results. Do you think they would have shown this same compassion to Trump supporters if Clinton would have won?
-The fact that Obamacare will soon be history. In one of the negatives of the past ten days, knowing that the worst bill ever passed in the history of the United States will be replaced with probably the second worst bill ever put into law.
-The fact that our Border Patrol/ICE will have their handcuffs removed and will be free to place the handcuffs where they belong...on the illegals.
-The fact that nappyroots and new tobie will soon have to refer to the Democrats as the "Party of Obstructionists" and pray that the do-nothing Congress will do nothing. Of course, I will be joining them in their opposition to some things.
-The Liberal Left Mainstream Media showing their hypocrisy and blatant disregard for the truth by stating the Trump campaign is in utter disarray because they are taking too long announcing administration appointees while knowing full well Obama and other past administrations took longer.
-The leftist Jon Stewart admitting the Left is full of Liberal hypocrites.
-The possibility of Ted Cruz becoming a member of the Supreme Court.
-The fact that Obama will not be a member of the Supreme Court.
-Bob Dylan giving the finger to the Nobel Peace Prize committee.
 
It's been a pretty good ten days. Please feel free to add your own jubilations to this list.
 
 
 
 

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