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A simple yes or no question. You must have concerns too. A confident person wouldn't be ashame to answer and would probably add something positive for the lack of experience.

Hmmm! Would't these moves make the conference weaker like the Southland Conf? I personally don't want to see U of H playing La-Monroe or Texas State. Just the opposite, a conference makes a team a lot more than a team makes a conference. If La-Monroe gets the SEC invite, lol, would the SEC fall to Monroe's level or will Monroe rise... Don't worry, Monroe and UH will never be in the same conference. That's true if you bring in one weak team to a strong conference, not when you replace 2 or 3 strong teams with weaker teams. CUSA is a little like the SLC, the top teams keep leaving and they feel the spots with weaker teams. Over time it brings down the conference, and I'm sure UH, Rice and SMU are beginning to long for the old days back in the SWC. You mean a situation where UT, OU, and AM can drag UH, Rice and SMU along instead of them dragging Monroe. Rice and SMU keep dreaming, UH might get a shot.

Is this correct, Woodard only head coaching job of a program higher than high school is the 1 year last year at a JUCO school?

Hmmm! Would't these moves make the conference weaker like the Southland Conf? I personally don't want to see U of H playing La-Monroe or Texas State. Just the opposite, a conference makes a team a lot more than a team makes a conference. If La-Monroe gets the SEC invite, lol, would the SEC fall to Monroe's level or will Monroe rise... Don't worry, Monroe and UH will never be in the same conference.

Its coming. I say 95% chance of a split.

I know what you mean... ;D

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It is still my opinion. Did they not teach you anything in College Station. My credit rating is 735... Lamar spend $5, Lamar gets $5 football. My donation is years of support when my critics have not... sorry unlv, but that is not going to pay for a new coach and a larger stadium. What will pay for fewer than 10,000 fans at the games? maybe worse, 6,000. This scenario can happen if the community is not supporting the sport. unlv, you have lost contact with all reality. What does your credit rating have to to with anything "Lamar?" He asked... Is this the low IQ section of the forum?

It is still my opinion. Did they not teach you anything in College Station. My credit rating is 735... Lamar spend $5, Lamar gets $5 football. My donation is years of support when my critics have not... sorry unlv, but that is not going to pay for a new coach and a larger stadium. What will pay for fewer than 10,000 fans at the games? maybe worse, 6,000. This scenario can happen if the community is not supporting the sport.

That's incorrect. Texas Southern, Tarleton State and Texas State - San Marcos are all behind UT-San Antonio when it comes to a move up. If UTSA gets football and does the upgrades through all the $$$ they are working on the city with and lord knows they have a better basketball facility, they will be ahead of all three TSUs. I agree. UTSA and Tech is in.

No South Alabama? They are one that gets mentioned a lot as does Western Kentucky and Troy. Troy is fixing to get a new basketball arena. There was an article I read today about how WKU has dominated their rivalry against Middle Tennessee (including wins in the SBC basketball finals in both MBB and WBB). I'd be interested in if the Sun Belt needs teams, where do they look? SoCon? SLC? Sunbelt is drifting eastward. This why I left out Troy and USA. The future Sunbelt could include teams like Charlotte, North Florida, Georgia Southern, Georgia st, App. st, ODU, UT-Chat, etc... CUSA foot print is drifting West. There is a chance that UH and UTEP could go Big 12, so maybe a 4th and 5th team.

It is still my opinion. Did they not teach you anything in College Station. My credit rating is 735... Lamar spend $5, Lamar gets $5 football. My donation is years of support when my critics have not...

Three spots in CUSA maybe opening soon. Memphis, ECU, and UCF is nearly certain to be leaving. The fight for the 3 spots will be between UTSA, TSU, La Tech, UNT, La-Laf, UL-Monroe, Georgia Southern, MTSU, and maybe(I hate to say it)Sam Houston st.... Top 3 leaders 1. UNT 2. Tech 3. UTSA Bottom 3 1. La-monroe 2. La-laf 3. Georgia Southern Mid-chances 1.MTSU 2.TSU 3. SHSU

So you think Terror and I are posting things to get banned? So you are snitching on us. Typical of Mcneese fans. baseball sweep 1,2,3...next bring on football.

Grow-up.... Figured you didn't know the answers... : How about showing me and this forum where I said Tubbs refused to hire a big name. No typing is needed, just copy and paste. Show us... You keep saying that Lamar needs a fancy stadium and big name to keep the fans in SETX interested. That's true and would help a lot, but unless Tubbs has that option it really doesn't matter. I think the stadium renovations will get people interested, and winning will get people in the stands for a while. I also agree that long term Lamar needs to go FBS and play bigger name schools or interest will plateau and we'll be like the rest of the SLC with attendance topping at 12 to 15K per game. That is my opinion on how "I" think the program should be started. That is a long way from saying Tubbs turned down a big name. I have my opinion, you have yours, Tubbs has his, Tubbs opinion is what counts but I still can disagree with him. He make mistakes too...Dillon.

I said it over and over, its not about his skills. He could be super coach with cape and big "C" on his chest. The reason Lamar football failed before is lack of community support. I supported Lamar football in the 80's. I was out there. Those who are attacking me were not.

Grow-up.... Figured you didn't know the answers... : How about showing me and this forum where I said Tubbs refused to hire a big name. No typing is needed, just copy and paste. Show us...

Grow-up....

I'm not trying to be a jerk about Woodard. I just feel really strongly deep to my bones that this plan won't work. Its a mistake like Dillon. I hope I'm wrong, I will attend the games, but I feel this is all wrong. I'm usually right about these things.

But it proves winning alone will not necessary bring the crowd. I remember Lamar started the year 3-0 in football. Lamar was ranked 11th in I-AA. Next home game, 2,000 fans or less.

I talk to a lot of sports fans about Lamar. Many see Lamar as small time jv. Woodard would reinforce this non-sense.

Tom and Roc recruiting....very nasty.

Mffl, you don't understand. It's not his coaching skills that bother me. We have a small window to grab SETX attention and hearts. If the area reacts Who? Why? Is this the best we can do? Same old Lamar. Its over. SETX fans want instant success and wow now. Think of that show "Showtime at the Apollo", once you hear that first boo...Its over. What makes you an expert on the people of SETX? Sounds like you don't think too highly of them because you think they only want a fancy stadium and a big-name coach, but otherwise they could care less about Lamar. It's pretty simple really, winning will get people in stands, period. Your repeated posts about everyone thinking small time are getting old. You say Lamar and everyone here is thinking small time, but you have offered no proof that Lamar had the money and a big-time coach lined up. Until you give us some proof that Lamar turned down expanding the stadium and turned down hiring a big-name coach, please stop with those posts. In a nutshell, I think Tubbs is going with Woodard because he believes Woodard is the best recruiter among the applicants, he has the most energy and will have the most to prove, and probably feels that Woodard will stay here long term if he's successful. Tubbs wants football to succeed long term, and over-hyping it with a big-name coach that has no plans to stick around probably would fail. If Woodard can bring in the good players quickly (which he did at Navarro College), then he'll win here quickly too. Let me dumb it down. A big name and fancy stadium will get the packed stadium. Winning will keep them A unknown name and a so-so stadium will get a much smaller crowd. Winning will keep the small crowds stable. A big name and fancy stadium gets national attention. Small name and current stadium shape gets laughs. BMW vs sub-compact, what will the crowd favor? Winning alone will not bring the crowds, ask the wildcatters and drillers about that. Lamar football needs to be the place to be seen or more than its FCS football. Monday if Woodard is the guy, I think it will be a big mistake and death blow to Lamar ever leaving the SLC and going FBS. The community will not rally around him in large numbers. Without those numbers, Lamar will be just another struggling FCS team. After a few years, Woodard will start winning, however nobody will show up to Lamar vs Tarleton st. We need to shoot for the moon, even if we miss we are still among the stars.

Does Tom knows the lower cost of living makes up for lower pay. Or Lamar could stop being so cheap. You got a passed sports funding vote and a cheap football coach. Get Tom back here.

Someone with the shock value to get community support. The key to Lamar football succeeding is winning and community support. I wanted a bigger stadium over VIP , I still prefer both. A bigger stadium means more fans in the stands. If Lamar football had never stopped, the Woodard choice would be ok. However this is a restart of a failed program. A chance to make a new impression on SETX. A chance to forget the last 30 years. There must be a big bang to get the program going. Foot to the floor spinning your wheels, a full can of lighter fluid on your charcoal, a nuke, something big to start the program. Afterward, then you start throttling down to something more realistic and at Lamar's level. Woodard can takeover after the big bang. He will then have the experience at this level and acceptance by the community the way Roc was accepted. We need the big bang start, something that will have all of SETX talking. Woodard will only have people saying Who and Why. :'( The dreamer. First of all, you can't have a big stadium if you don't have the money to build it. Why is that so hard for you to understand? Second, you say you want a big name coach that will give us a " big bang start ". But what big name coach has applied or has asked for the job? Simple, no one. At least, not the big name guys you are looking for. You go ahead and stay in lala land, UNLV. The rest of us will wallow in reality. I have a good feeling that the Lamar higher ups know what they are doing and what they have to work with to get it done. The limited thinker...nay sayer...glass always half empty...could never happen, so don't try...the aggie mentality "This 'telephone' has too many shortcomings to be seriously considered as a means of communication. The device is inherently of no value to us." -- Western Union internal memo,1876. "Computers in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons." -- Popular Mechanics, forecasting the relentless march of . ... science, 1949 "Who the heck wants to hear actors talk?" -- H.M. Warner, Warner Brothers, 1927. "I think there is a world market for maybe five computers." -- Thomas Watson, chairman of IBM, 1943 "Airplanes are interesting toys but of no military value." -- Marechal Ferdinand Foch, Professor of Strategy, Ecole . ... Superieure deGuerre. "There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home." -- Ken Olson, president, chairman and founder of Digital. .... Equipment Corp., 1977 "The wireless music box has no imaginable commercial value. Who would pay for a message sent to nobody in particular?" -- David Sarnoff's associates in response to his urgings for investment in the radio in the 1920s. "Who in their right mind would ever need more than 640k of ram!?" -- Bill Gates, 1981 "I have traveled the length and breadth of this country and talked with the best people, and I can assure you that data processing is a fad that won't last out the year." -- Editor in charge of business books for Prentice Hall, 1957 "But what ... is it good for?" -- Engineer at the Advanced Computing Systems Division of IBM, ... 1968, commenting on the microchip. "The concept is interesting and well-formed, but in order to earn better than a 'C,' the idea must be feasible." -- A Yale University management professor in response to Fred Smith's paper proposing reliable overnight delivery service. (Smith went on to found Federal Express Corp.) "I'm just glad it'll be Clark Gable who's falling on his face and not Gary Cooper." -- Gary Cooper, on his decision not to accept the leading role in "Gone With The Wind." "Heavier-than-air flying machines are impossible." --Lord Kelvin, president, Royal Society, 1895. "If I had thought about it, I wouldn't have done the experiment. The literature was full of examples that said you can't do this." -- Spencer Silver on the work that led to the unique adhesives for3-M "Post-It" Notepads. "So we went to Atari and said, 'Hey, we've got this amazing thing, even built with some of your parts, and what do you think about funding us? Or we'll give it to you. We just want to do it. Pay our salary, we'll come work for you.' And they said, 'No.' So then we went to Hewlett-Packard, and they said, 'Hey, we don't need you. You haven't got through college yet.'" -- Apple Computer Inc. founder Steve Jobs on attempts to get Atari and H-P interested in his and Steve Wozniak's personal computer. "Professor Goddard does not know the relation between action and reaction and the need to have something better than a vacuum against which to react. He seems to lack the basic knowledge ladled out daily in high schools." -- 1921 New York Times editorial about Robert Goddard's revolutionary rocket work. "Drill for oil? You mean drill into the ground to try and find oil? You're crazy." -- Drillers whom Edwin L. Drake tried to enlist to his project to drill for oil in 1859. "Stocks have reached what looks like a permanently high plateau." --Irving Fisher, Professor of Economics, Yale University, 1929. "Everything that can be invented has been invented." -- Charles H. Duell, Commissioner, U.S. Office of Patents, 1899. "Louis Pasteur's theory of germs is ridiculous fiction". -- Pierre Pachet, Professor of Physiology at Toulouse, 1872 "The abdomen, the chest, and the brain will forever be shut from the intrusion of the wise and humane surgeon". -- Sir John Eric Ericksen, British surgeon, appointed Surgeon Extraordinary to Queen Victoria 1873. "We don't like their sound, and guitar music is on the way out." -- Decca Recording Co., when rejecting the Beatles, 1962. Come on unlv, get a new angle. This is the second time (at least) that you have posted this list of "Major Wrong First Impressions." And, you act like you were there on every one of them saying, "You're wrong, wrong, wrong - these are great inventions - just wait (insert appropriate number) twenty years and you'll see." Do you work at a job that has a budget with expected results? Don't forget the budget part. I'm just showing you a mirror. Do you not like what you see?