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[quote name="kicker" post="761880" timestamp="1266514983"] [quote author=venom33 link=topic=65894.msg761120#msg761120 date=1266420651] [quote author=GUNHO link=topic=65894.msg760584#msg760584 date=1266350721] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=65894.msg760580#msg760580 date=1266350210] [quote author=skipper link=topic=65894.msg760566#msg760566 date=1266348499] where did you get the the 19 starters from aggie [/quote] From Coop, the resident WOS Mustang football expert. (just for clarification, I was told by one of the coaches at WOS that the actual number of returning starters for WOS is 16) With that many starters returning, that's far from a rebuilding year. [/quote] Skipp might be right this time aggie.[b]We have to find a kicker [/b] and you know how few and far between those are at WO-S. ;D [/quote] weve got a dang good kicker coming off the jv team. he will be more than ready, i will see to it!  ;) ;D ;) ;D [/quote] Yes, he will be great. He just needs some polishing. He needs to be more fluid with his technique. He was a little robotic when i worked with him. Once he relaxes and smoothes out, he will be awesome! [/quote] we really appreciate those kind words! he really enjoyed the time he got to work with you and he took alot out of it.

[quote name="GUNHO" post="760584" timestamp="1266350721"] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=65894.msg760580#msg760580 date=1266350210] [quote author=skipper link=topic=65894.msg760566#msg760566 date=1266348499] where did you get the the 19 starters from aggie [/quote] From Coop, the resident WOS Mustang football expert. (just for clarification, I was told by one of the coaches at WOS that the actual number of returning starters for WOS is 16) With that many starters returning, that's far from a rebuilding year. [/quote] Skipp might be right this time aggie.[b]We have to find a kicker [/b] and you know how few and far between those are at WO-S. ;D [/quote] weve got a dang good kicker coming off the jv team. he will be more than ready, i will see to it!  ;) ;D ;) ;D

[quote name="baseball25" post="759593" timestamp="1266095866"] Bec canseco is a dousche and doesn't respect mma walker is a respectful man that loves the sport of mma [/quote] you know this how???

i hope dana will sign mousasi soon! as for canseco, i think hes more of a legit fighter than walker, plus a fight with walker would equal huge ratings. im curious though, why does walker get a pass but canseco doesnt? strikeforce puts on good shows with quality/entertaining fights throughout the entire card.

i wouldnt mind seeing couture replace vitor, though i think randy is WAY to slow he does have his wrestling and gnp to fall back on.

i wish dana could sign mousasi in time....but im not sure the ufc fanboys could take seeing mousasi smash anderson and become new champ in his first fight with the ufc.  ;)

UFC 112's fight card isn't as "Invincible" as its event name may suggest. Vitor Belfort (19-8 MMA, 8-4 UFC) has been forced to withdraw from a scheduled main-event title fight with middleweight champion Anderson Silva (25-4 MMA, 10-0 UFC) at the April 10 event, which takes place at Concert Arena at the Ferrari World theme park on Yas Island in Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates. The Brazil-based Web site Tatame first reported the news, which was subsequently confirmed by Yahoo! Sports' Kevin Iole. The Tatame report stated Belfort hurt his shoulder in training and will not be able to recover in time for the fight. Jayme Sandall, Belfort's trainer, stated that Belfort had been unable to use his injured arm in practice. Iole subsequently confirmed the injury with UFC president Dana White via his Twitter account.

[quote name="baseball25" post="756667" timestamp="1265589578"] Well if you thought it was bad then don't watch it. Ufc is the best organization out there they can't put on good  shows all the time. I mean fedor is going to fight a guy that who got cut from the ufc lol he already fought arvloski cut from ufc and Tim slyvia got cut too lol I mean give me a break [/quote] how could i have possibly known beforehand the main-event was gonna suck? also,i didnt say the entire card was bad just a HORRIBLE main event! you have got to stop letting where a fighter fights determine his worth as a fighter or his world rankings. when fedor beat sylvia and arlovski they were both ranked in the top 5, where was coleman ranked last night? you mention being cut from the ufc, wasnt coleman cut at one time? oh and didnt fedor beat coleman twice? dont forget to mention him when discussing these ex-ufc champions he's beaten.... ;)  so does that mean couture just did what you accuse fedor of doing, beating a once cut ex-ufc champion?

awesome comeback baseball.... great way to overlook how slow and pathetic couture looked last night and coleman was even slower and looked even more pathetic! i actually felt bad for both guys after watching that fight! how many more "has been" fights will the ufc put on? this fight by far was one of the worst main events ive ever seen in any organization! oh and if youre referring to fedor and his schedule heres a tidbit of info...fedor has 33 total fights with a record of 31-1-1 and his first mma fight (not including judo and sambo tourneys)was 5/21/2000. couture has 28 total fights and has a record of 18-10. his first mma fight was 5/30/1997... couture has fought in mma 3 more years than fedor and has 5 less fights and is older than fedor by 13 years. be careful when you use emotion and not facts....

couture and coleman looked like two old men fighting over the last cup of pudding at the retirement home... ;D ;D

[quote name="A Bear's Bear" post="754912" timestamp="1265255926"] [quote author=venom33 link=topic=64161.msg753446#msg753446 date=1265078039] [quote author=A Bear's Bear link=topic=64161.msg753409#msg753409 date=1265075766] LCM, outside of the qb-receiver realm, has 3-year starter senior rb Tevvin Jones, junior 2-way lineman (and all-american shot-put and discus thrower) Hayden Reed, 1st team all-district corner Aldric Jones and junior team tackles leader Ruben Alinez.  LCM-like last year-once again has former players coming back out who should contribute as well as several former WO-S guys who should impact.  Also watch out for several of the freshman from last year, LCM will likely start 4-5 sophomores on a team that returns-depending on how you count it-14 to 16 starters already.  I believe that there is also optimism in the second year of an offensive and defensive system drastically different from the Moody years.  The bears will have 8 to 10 three-year starters, mostly sophomores (one freshman).  It would seem that the sophomore laden class of 2007, a year which will go down in shame in Bear Country, will pay dividens.  And there is always the Hunter Gonzales-Zack Sonnier connection, although one should definately expect more production from the likes of returning impact players at receiver-Preston Armstrong, Tyler Wright, Danniel Harrison, and Elliot Perry (a starter before sustaining a season ending wrist injury during the first scrimmage after catching a couple of passes.  On defense, expect significant contributions from new guys, as several sophomores and a couple of [b]WO-S transfers fight for playing time[/b].  This in a unit that only loses 3 starters, and played respectibly when motivated.  However, dont expect the size dilemna on the d-line to be solved anytime soon.  The d-line will remain potent pass-rushers but will face severe handicaps against bigger offensive lines.  Both kickers, who were first timers a year ago, return, and Gonzales will man the Punter spot for a third straight year.  Tevvin Jones will return kicks for a third straight year, and super-quick Aldric Jones will likely be one of the two punt returners. [/quote] wow, if these guys are fighting for playing time at lcm they wouldve never seen the field at wos! good move on their part!    ;) ;D ;D ;) [/quote]  One of the wo-s guys is a highly talented freshman, who also is close to top of the class at LCM.  maybe he just wanted a more stimulating academic enviornment... [/quote] thats possible... but being were talking about football on a football thread and you made the comment that they were "fighting for playing time" i dont see it being an academic issue. maybe their family moved to the district and had no choice or maybe these playeres couldnt cut it at wos and didnt have a shot at sniffing the grass on the wos football field and they saw the writing on the wall. see like it or not alot of players will gladly trade coach t's offseason, expectations, and discipline for easier practices, lower expectations, less of a tradition, and alot less wins and head north on hwy 87.    :'( :'(

[quote name="mat" post="754811" timestamp="1265241821"] [quote author=venom33 link=topic=65406.msg754664#msg754664 date=1265228937] just read walkers "disclosed" purse is $600 with NO win bonus! c'mon... $600? it was made clear numerous times that his ENTIRE purse would be donated to charity....what a generous,generous [s]guy[/s] millionaire! [/quote] No way. If that was the case I'd say Strikeforce would be the cheapskates [/quote] heeeeeeeere ya go! Newly crowned Strikeforce welterweight champion Nick Diaz and Robbie Lawler, who scored a stunning come-from-behind win over Melvin Manhoef, each earned an event-high $100,000 payday at this past weekend's "Strikeforce: Miami" event. MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) recently requested and today received the list of disclosed paydays from the Florida Department of Business and Professional Regulation, which oversees the Florida State Boxing Commission. The total disclosed payroll for the Jan. 30 event was $469,600. The show, which aired on Showtime, took place at the BankAtlantic Center in Sunrise, Fla. Diaz and Lawler both earned a base pay of $100,000 (with no win bonus). Other top earners included Jay Hieron ($65,000), Bobby Lashley ($50,000) and Strikeforce women's lightweight champion Cristiane "Cyborg" Santos ($35,000). Additionally, as MMAjunkie.com reported over the weekend, former NFL great and MMA newcomer Herschel Walker also earned "six figures" for his fight, according to Strikeforce CEO Scott Coker, though his disclosed pay was just $600. Walker likely earned the rest as a signing bonus or through some other arrangement that's not reflected in the commission's official numbers. The total list of payouts included: Nick Diaz: $100,000 (no win bonus) def. Marius Zaromskis: $30,000 Cristiane "Cyborg" Santos: $35,000 ($15,000 win bonus and $5,000 "championship" bonus) def. Marloes Coenen: $2,000 Herschel Walker: $600 (no win bonus) def. Greg Nagy: $5,000 Robbie Lawler: $100,000 (no win bonus) def. Melvin Manhoef: $5,000 Bobby Lashley: $50,000 (no win bonus) def. Wes Sims: $25,000 Jay Hieron: $65,000 ($35,000 win bonus) def. Joe Riggs: $30,000 Micahel Byrnes: $2,000 ($1,000 win bonus) def. David Zitnik: $1,500 Joe Ray: $1,500 ($500 win bonus) def. John Clarke: $1,000 David Gomez: $2,000 ($1,000 win bonus) def. Craig Oxley: $1,500 Pablo Alfonso: $3,000 ($1,500 win bonus) def. Marcos DaMatta: $2,500 Hayder Hassan: $2,000 ($1,000 win bonus) def. Ryan Keenan: $2,000 John Kelly: $2,000 ($1,000 win bonus) def. Sabah Homasi: $1,000

yep, $600

just read walkers "disclosed" purse is $600 with NO win bonus! c'mon... $600? it was made clear numerous times that his ENTIRE purse would be donated to charity....what a generous,generous [s]guy[/s] millionaire!

WOW!!!  :o :o  jasper nederland kirbyville friendswood giddings

we have friendswood also???

[quote name="A Bear's Bear" post="753409" timestamp="1265075766"] LCM, outside of the qb-receiver realm, has 3-year starter senior rb Tevvin Jones, junior 2-way lineman (and all-american shot-put and discus thrower) Hayden Reed, 1st team all-district corner Aldric Jones and junior team tackles leader Ruben Alinez.  LCM-like last year-once again has former players coming back out who should contribute as well as several former WO-S guys who should impact.  Also watch out for several of the freshman from last year, LCM will likely start 4-5 sophomores on a team that returns-depending on how you count it-14 to 16 starters already.  I believe that there is also optimism in the second year of an offensive and defensive system drastically different from the Moody years.  The bears will have 8 to 10 three-year starters, mostly sophomores (one freshman).  It would seem that the sophomore laden class of 2007, a year which will go down in shame in Bear Country, will pay dividens.  And there is always the Hunter Gonzales-Zack Sonnier connection, although one should definately expect more production from the likes of returning impact players at receiver-Preston Armstrong, Tyler Wright, Danniel Harrison, and Elliot Perry (a starter before sustaining a season ending wrist injury during the first scrimmage after catching a couple of passes.  On defense, expect significant contributions from new guys, as several sophomores and a couple of [b]WO-S transfers fight for playing time[/b].  This in a unit that only loses 3 starters, and played respectibly when motivated.  However, dont expect the size dilemna on the d-line to be solved anytime soon.  The d-line will remain potent pass-rushers but will face severe handicaps against bigger offensive lines.  Both kickers, who were first timers a year ago, return, and Gonzales will man the Punter spot for a third straight year.  Tevvin Jones will return kicks for a third straight year, and super-quick Aldric Jones will likely be one of the two punt returners. [/quote] wow, if these guys are fighting for playing time at lcm they wouldve never seen the field at wos! good move on their part!    ;) ;D ;D ;)

oops, i forgot.... i wonder why gsp was there? i understand guys are spectators at other events but it was odd for them to not only show him in the crowd but introduce him. if this is common why didnt they show other ufc fighters and make it a point to introduce them? i wonder how dana feels about that?

i heard walker was paid 6 figures for that fight.... if so, i think thats a slap in the face to a bunch of fighters who may not have the name recognition but have put in the work to be in a big show. heck, i bet diaz didnt get half that!

that lawler and manhoef fight was awesome! thats why i love mma! lawler was getting the crap beat outta him then BOOM, lights out! i think the walker fight was a work. jmo lashley needs to stop fighting cans and get some real competition.

UFC heavyweight champion Brock Lesnar (4-1 MMA, 3-1 UFC) says through a "miracle" of medicine, he will avoid surgery and return to the octagon this summer. Lesnar, along with UFC president Dana White, made the announcement on this morning's addition of ESPN's "SportsCenter." The appearance was the heavyweight champion's first interview since being forced out of action with a series of ailments. The illness, which Lesnar confirmed was initially diagnosed as mononucleosis and then diverticulitis (or as Lesnar clarified in layman's terms, "a hole in my stomach"), has kept the champion out of action since July 2009 and forced the massive wrestler out of a scheduled November UFC 106 headliner with Shane Carwin. Lesnar said he lost nearly 40 pounds after missing nearly three weeks of training camp and during an 11-day hospitalization and was told by multiple doctors that surgery was unavoidable. The champion said he continued to hold out hope that he could avoid an invasive procedure – which he says would have removed a portion of his colon and would have been career-ending – and through what he classified as "a miracle," a follow-up appointment on Jan. 5 showed his body had begun to heal itself. "[The doctors] were dumbfounded," Lesnar said. "They couldn't find any problem in my stomach. It's just a miracle to me. "I actually had to go to the doctor yesterday before I came out here and get another CT scan on my stomach because I just still can't believe it." While an exact date for Lesnar's return was not announced, White said he hoped to have his champion back in the octagon "this summer." As Lesnar continues his recovery, the UFC has booked an interim title fight at UFC 111 between former champion Frank Mir and top challenger Carwin, who was slated to face the champion before his illness struck. White said the winner of that contest would be in line for the first crack at Lesnar. Should the winner of that fight prove unable to compete, White said the UFC 110 bout between fellow contenders Cain Velasquez and Antonio Rodrigo Noguiera would serve as a backup plan and provide Lenar's first foe. Lesnar, who said he has already put about 30 pounds of mass back on his frame, said the traumatic, roller-coaster ride of the past six months has forced him to take a different view on life. "I believe the mind is a powerful thing," Lesnar said. "I was put in a position, and I had to view my life and the world in a different (manner). I had a different take on life. When you have everything taken away from you, and you're laying helplessly in your hospital bed, not sure if I'm going to even get back in the octagon, something that I've grown to just love to do – this is my life." Despite the changes, Lesnar wanted to clarify that one thing has remained the same. "Lets be clear with that: I still am the UFC heavyweight champion," Lesnar said.

A Cheating Culture in Baseball By Keith Dobkowski, MLB News Writer December 4, 2004 A cheating culture has always existed in Baseball.  And the shock over the BALCO steroid scandal should be redirected as a shock over our shock.  Baseball has fooled us before and certainly will fool us again.  One look at baseball’s greatest players and you will find cheating.  The list now includes Barry Bonds, Jason Giambi and Gary Sheffield.  They join the likes of Ty Cobb, Pete Rose, Shoeless Joe Jackson, Babe Ruth, Rollie Fingers, Gaylord Perry, Willie Mays, 1919 White Sox, 1970s Pirates, Hank Aaron, Sammy Sosa, Mark McGuire, Jose Canseco, Ken Caminiti, George Brett, and dozens of others. The cheating includes hall of fame players and champion teams.  It is done for advantage, giving the player or team any possible leg up on the competition.  Whether it is an MVP injecting a steroid as Canseco, Caminiti and now Giambi have admitted...  Or scuffing or spitting on a ball as hall of fame players Perry and Fingers did…  Or corking a bat like homerun sluggers Sosa and Ruth… Using too much pine tar like 3,000 career hits George Brett… Taking Andro and hitting 70 homeruns in a season as Mark McGuire did… Using Cocaine before games like the 1970s Pittsburgh Pirates… Throwing a World Series like the 1919 White Sox and Shoeless Joe Jackson… Betting on Baseball like Pete Rose… Using amphetamines for energy like Mays and Aaron did… Or using ‘the cream’ and ‘the clear’ as Bonds and Sheffield may have… Many of the stories we have heard such as Ty Cobb sharpening his cleats to injure other players while stealing a base.  Or Tim Raines sliding in certain manner to avoid breaking the vile of cocaine he kept in his pocket for a mid-game energy boost have become a part of baseball lore. In a way we welcome the cheating.  We overlooked Andro in the slugging summer of 1998 when McGuire and Sosa took on the homerun record.  We overlooked Jose Lima throwing batting practice balls during a game to Sosa in the last weeks of the ‘98 season.  Lima and therefore Sosa cheated and we did not care.  We celebrated the long ball. Furthermore there is hypocrisy.  [b]It praises Curt Schillling’s bravery in game six against the Yankees, yet turns around and places the tainting of the game upon Giambi’s shoulders.  Both players used performance enhancers.  A pain killing injection allowed Schilling to pitch and another injection allowed Giambi to hit.  Where is the thick red line?[/b] Players have always used performance enhancers to gain a benefit.  It is not to dismiss the BALCO mess, but to realize that baseball welcomes a cheating culture and knows it will survive.  To properly judge BALCO and the players it is more important to put everything in context.  Is it just one player receiving a benefit, or is it a benefit bestowed on the entire league.  That leads us to declare that BALCO, while wrong, is a minor infraction when looking at the history of the game. When judging infractions we must look at the game and the effects of the infraction.  A corked bat and a spitball both give the player using it a huge advantage against their opponents.  The player who cheats is the one who benefits.  And unless everyone spits or corks there is not an even field.  In comparison, today we are in a juiced era where most players are using some form of performance enhancer.  Due the widespread use the field becomes level.  And placed in context, Ruth and Aaron never faced pitchers who were on performance enhancers and the juice, as Bonds and today’s stars have.  Bonds’ numbers therefore become legitimate. The biggest infraction that baseball has seen is gambling.  Gambling affects the roots of the game.  How it is called, how it is managed and how much effort a players gives?  The Chicago White Sox of 1919 and Pete Rose took advantage for their own financial benefit and placed the basis of the game at risk.  A risk not seen by juice, spit or cork… Shockingly most Americans think Pete Rose should be reinstated, put in the hall of fame and even allowed to manage again.  Yet Rose may be the biggest cheater of them all.  Rose put the integrity of the game on the line as he managed and bet on baseball at the same time.  Yet we forgive and act with shock that he is not in the hall. As the BALCO scandal continues and looks to do so for the next year or two, newscasters, especially those unwise to baseball like 20/20’s Martin Bashir, will look to profit as well off the BALCO story.  Baseball fans understand that cheating has long been part of the game.  From Ruth to Rose to Bonds to whoever is next, cheating will exist in baseball. 

[quote name="baddog" post="744497" timestamp="1263594705"] Babe Ruth had to bat against performance ''diminishers''. It was called a ''scuffed ball'' and the good old ''spitball''. Of course these were used to his advantage when pitching, but it sure wasn't something he injected into his body. All of Babe's homeruns were hit with the pure body that God gave him. Babe liked to drink and he was a womanizer....both of which would contribute to lessening his performance on the field, but he succeeded anyway. Please enlighten me as to what enhancers were around since the beginning of baseball. I'm sick of the hand to eye coordination argument. So you can hit a baseball. If you're not tearing up the batting average department, you won't see the HOF. Mcgwire hit a whopping [b].263 lifetime (wouldn't sniff the HOF), [/b] so if he wasn't hitting them out, we wouldn't even remember who he was. The main thing about steroids is that instead of hitting a harmless fly ball to left, it carried further due to the extra muscle strength and adrenaline from being ''pumped up'' more than normal. None of today's juiced up goons could sniff the Babe's jock strap and shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence. [/quote] babe ruth is the affirmative action homerun king! he was never allowed to face any negro league pitchers. he didnt face all of the best pitchers of his time, only the white ones. we could "if" and "but" this thing to death.... oh and whether you like it or not players have been using anything they could to get an advantage over an opponent since the begining!

you still have to be able to put the bat on the ball... steriods doesnt help the ol hand/eye coordination. also, what about the pitchers who were using roids that k'd mcgwire throughout his career? or the fielders who made outstanding plays that otherwise wouldnt have been made had they not been juicing? we could go on and on and on.... there has been performance enhancers since baseball was invented, not all being roids!

sounds good! count me in!    ;D