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Apparently, the Ultimate Fighting Championship's door hasn't completely closed on notables Fedor Emelianenko and Gegard Mousasi. Although the M-1 fighters are signed in the U.S. to Strikeforce and past negotiations with the UFC fell apart, UFC president Dana White said he recently reopened talks with M-1 Global boss Vadim Finkelstein. White wouldn't elaborate on the nature of the discussions, only saying they've taken place "more recently than you would think." But Finkelstein has since confirmed he's entered talks and hopes "fans will be happy this time" with the outcome. Finkelstein's recent Twitter message came a day after White confirmed the renewed talks. White's update, which raised more than a few eyebrows, followed a simple question asking if Mousasi, the former DREAM middleweight champ and current Strikeforce light-heavyweight title-holder, would never be a UFC fighter. "I wouldn't say he never would be," White said on Saturday. "It's not that I don't want to talk to M-1. I want to get this [expletive] done. I want him, and I want Fedor. I want to do it. And I never say never. They can call me right now, and we can start talking and figure this thing out. I'd love to get Mousasi in here. He should be. He deserves to be. "I like [Mousasi] a lot. I'd love to get him in here and try him out with some of the other guys." When pressed for details, White declined to elaborate but confirmed the talks have taken place recently. While certainly good news for THE UFC fans who want the top fighters under the company's umbrella, it's certain to cause concern for Strikefore and broadcast partners Showtime and CBS, who have relied (and will continue to rely) heavily on the two stars. Both are expected to figure prominently into Strikeforce's 2010 plans with Emelianenko likely to contend for the organization's heavyweight belt and Mousasi expected to defend his title, which he recently took from Renato "Babalu" Sobral. Emelianenko, the longtime PRIDE champion, recently competed for Affliction Entertainment, where he defeated ex-UFC champs Tim Sylvia and Andrei Arlovski. After its promotional demise, Emelianenko and the UFC entered talks that soon sparked a war of words in the media. White said the fighter's demands (which included the caveat that Emelianenko's UFC fights must be co-promoted by M-1 Global) were outlandish, but he said he was willing to pay big for the fighter. (Finkelstein, though, later denied reports that the UFC had offered a contract worth $30 million.) However, the co-promoting demands eventually halted the negotiations. The talks temporary broke down in July, and Emelianenko signed with Strikeforce the next month. The promotion then announced a network-TV deal with CBS, and Emelianenko headlined the first show with a knockout victory over Brett Rogers in November. Emelianenko (31-1) and Mousasi (28-2-1) are both expected to fight again for Strikeforce in the spring.

[quote name="baseball25" post="737773" timestamp="1262538395"] The injuries hurt big time but It wasn't a bad card with all the problems they had with it. Ufc has 6 of the best heavyweights in the world and they all keep getting better. There is one place fedor needs to be and he needs to fight all six. Venom don't hate and say yvel is old santos is that good man three months ago u said yvel has a top heavyweight the truth is ufc heavyweights are getting better each fight. Fedor needs the ufc bec everyone sees this. [/quote] i never said i thought he was a top heavy, but i truly thought he would compete better than he did. i really thought yvel had something left, but that takes nothing away from santos. he looked really good and beat who the matchmakers put in front of him. i think santos should be above carwin and cain in the rankings. heck, his accomplishments so far trumps anything lesnars done.

yep, yvel looked horrible!  seems his better days are behind him. who was originally suppose to fight santos? ya gotta love these pathetic,weaka$$ ppv cards the ufc puts on. nothing but no-names or tuf cast members mixed in with a few legit fights. it seems their match making is getting worse.

we plan on sending our son to a&m,mcneese,and lamar. if anyone knows of a good kicking camp please let me know.

no way he had control of that ball, he was clearly out of bounds.

[quote name="baseball25" post="732009" timestamp="1261032507"] Lol who has nelson beat name two top contenders in the world he's beat same for yvel [/quote] didnt say quality wins i said quality fights/opponents, but since you asked the question i guess nelson and yvel have the same amount as the hw's you praise in the ufc. besides beating a hurt/staph infected big nog who has mir,carwin,or cain beaten? you always point out the lack of quality opponents(in your opinion) hw fighters outside the ufc have faced but you never do the same for the ones who fight in the ufc.

let nog,mir,carwin,and cain have a one night hw tourney and if you want to make it more interesting throw nelson and yvel in the mix, both have many more quality fights than three out of the previously mentioned four. winner gets brock if/when he comes back. the only benefit of an interim title is the ability to make the fight 5 rounds.

[quote name="baseball25" post="731766" timestamp="1261008375"] What I was saying mir wants to fight the best in the ufc and carwin is 5th in the world and is undefeated atleast he's not fighting. A guy name werdum lol that ur so called boy fedor is fighting next the guy that got release by ufc lol [/quote] baseball you never cease to amaze me with your logic--- carwin has NO business fighting for the ufc belt, he has one legit win on his record in gonzaga which he looked bad in that fight. you dis werdum yet he smashed vera who smashed your boy mir and he beat gonzaga twice who was beaten by carwin that subsequently earned him a shot a meaningless iterim belt. werdum has more quality fights than any heavyweight(save big nog) in the ufc! im curious, how many quality wins does mir have besides nog??? wes simms twice? tank abbot? hes the most overrated fighter in the ufc and its been proven in his previous fights if he gets hit he goes into a fetal position and quits mentally! youve got to get out of this ufc only mindset!

[quote name="hughesfan" post="731545" timestamp="1260991111"] [b]I don't believe anyone said he is the[/b] best but Fedor is called the best HW and yet he does not fight the best HW fighters all the time. Not that all his fights have been against cream puffs but they have not been top ranked guys either. Yet again this is all conjecture and we probably won't see Fedor in the UFC or see most of the best UFC heavies fight anywhere else so it is a moot point. [/quote] reread the post i commented on, he absolutely says carwin is the best out there.  i do agree with you though, this is an absolute moot point.

carwin by FAR isnt the best heavy out there! maybe in the ufc, but not in mma!

[quote name="Gabe" post="730913" timestamp="1260910974"] Point is you can't be the best in the world if you have lost twice to someone. Silva is the best in the world. [/quote] silva has 4 losses...

[quote name="baseball25" post="730421" timestamp="1260828968"] Yeah he did but it was at 170 pounds, penn fights at 155 thats his normal fight weight, its tough to put that much weight on and then step in the ring with GSP [/quote] i would venture to say its tough at any weight to step in the ring with gsp....  ;) ;D

WHY,WHY,WHY!!!!???? can we PLEASE see some fights that havent already been done 5 or 6 times???    :'( :'( :'(

Tito before the fight-- "ive never trained so hard, im 100%" Tito after the fight-- "i have back problems, i only got to spar once" also, i dont think the ac wouldve let him near that cage if his skull was cracked! i find it amusing when the hype doesnt match the performance.

[quote name="baseball25" post="711408" timestamp="1258557987"] [b]Champ Anderson Silva vs. Vitor Belfort (for middleweight title)* [/b] [b]Mark Coleman vs. Randy Couture[/b]* Demian Maia vs. Dan Miller* [b]Renzo Gracie vs. Matt Hughes* Matt Serra vs. Frank Trigg*[/b] Rob Emerson vs. Phillipe Nover* Rolles Gracie vs. Mostapha Al Turk* Melvin Guillard vs. Ronnys Torres* Fights in Bold aren't bad you can say this card is who ever loses should retire with all these old guys fighting. [/quote] coleman/couture wouldve been a "super fight" 5-10 years ago...now, not so sure. belfort/silva will be awesome!

i dont hate the ufc, i wish they would put on better ppv's with better matchups, but hate is a strong word. they by far have the best classes in all of mma with the exception of hw. im hoping one day they will either sign fedor or dana will breakdown and cross promote with other organizations. money aside, there are a ton of super fights out there in every class i would love to see. baseball, as a fellow mma-aholic you have to agree with that.

[quote name="baseball25" post="710507" timestamp="1258458104"] Both of them are contenders venom I mean you just don't like the ufc. Remember Coleman got hurt so they had to get.someone to fill in and ufc is so deep they give him Forrest Griffin who the fans love and it make it a interesting fight no matter what you say. I say winner gets Randy coutore. [/quote] im a fan of the sport first and foremost, i couldnt care less what organization the fighter fights under.

[quote name="baseball25" post="709607" timestamp="1258381953"] Nah it wasn't great one but I mean when you put on 12 shows a yr all of them can't be great. I am ready for[b] tito vs griffin 2[/b] though. [/quote] i really dont see the relevance of this fight. win or lose neither is relevant in their weight division. doing the same fights over and over is getting old!    :-\

im not sure if i was one of those posters or not, but i wish cs the best and hope they can make a long run.

can you imagine the list of applicants/names there will be to take the reins when coach hooks does decide to retire!?

NO WAY RANDY WON THAT FIGHT!

congrats tigers!!!! keep it going!

[quote name="BoboandBlair" post="707938" timestamp="1258235157"] Skipper and Green Ice both bring up good points. If the WOS school system continues to spiral downward, and the test scores continually get worse, maybe they will lose enough kids and drop to 2A.  Yeah, thats what they need.  They couldn't get it done in 3A, so maybe 2A will be nicer to them.  Heck, if that don't work, by 2018, they can beat up on High Island, Evadale, Burkeville, Chester, and Sabine Pass.  I'm pretty sure they can win it all in 1A. [/quote] again, what team do you support?

[quote name="Stangs92" post="708010" timestamp="1258237267"] GreenIce its spelled d-e-c-e-n-t! If u r gonna talk about education then please use spell check. [/quote] OH DAM!!!!!  :o

[quote name="BoboandBlair" post="707564" timestamp="1258220291"] If Hooks stays around for another state championship, like some of you WOS homers suggest, he maybe coaching well into his 80's. From a 5A school and 4A school (9A's) 30 years ago, from a school that was once a 3-time state finalist in the 80's, from a team that was pretty good (dominate) as a 4A for 25 years, to today.  Yeah, I would classify that as pretty embarrassing.  WOS is a shell of what they once were.  If anyone can get on here and say that their 6 year run in 3A has been successful, then I challenge their knowledge.  Beating OF, BC, HJ, HF, and the likes don't classify you as a power.  Thats hardly the resume they built up beating the Beaumont schools, mid-county schools, and Houston schools for years.   If you were to go back 10 years and tell people in SE Texas that WOS would lose 2 first round playoff games to 3A schools they would have looked at you like you were retarded.  6 years in 3A, 2 first round loses, 1 semifinal birth, and no state championship games.  What a shame for a program that still wants to think of itself as an elite program, and power. [/quote] bobo, im not sure if we should be embarassed but you have stated a few facts and do have a few valid points that get the old mind turning.  :'( i am curious though, you seem to know alot about wos and have a very strong opinion as to where the program stands, what area team do you support?