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[quote name="hughesfan" post="702633" timestamp="1257794603"] [b]Fedor was losing that fight until the right KO'd Rogers[/b]. I was not that impressed with either or them. I also believe that while anyone fighting with 4oz. gloves on has a punchers chance that Lesnar would not stand toe to toe with him, get him on the ground and pound the crud out of Fedor. Now if Fedor actually trained and cut to 205, that would be very interesting indeed. [/quote] what!!!???  you cant be serious! that round was not even close! there was the jab from Rogers that opened an existing cut and a decent flurry on the ground that lasted a few seconds. fedor rocked him on the feet, couple of beautiful takedowns, and a couple of near submissions. When Fedor gets hurt it seems to be magnified more than any other fighter in the same situation.

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="702708" timestamp="1257799300"] [quote author=skipper link=topic=62003.msg702700#msg702700 date=1257798766] gilmer will not do it this time. the coaching staff at jasper are very besy after practice going over and over the game taps,GILMER GOES HOME  :o :o :o :o :o :o :o. this west orange stark fan says lets go jasper JUST DO IT [/quote] and as usual that WOS fan is drunk. ::) [/quote] yet again, i lol'd on that one!    :D :D :D

[quote name="baseball25" post="701389" timestamp="1257656154"] No doubt he's top 3 PFP in the world but in my mind he struggles against a athletic,stronger,bigger, fighter in lesnar, and the Cage lesnar would use that cage and smother fedor, I mean he has 2 more fights with strikeforce i mean hes going to fight werdum UFC cut him and he's going to fight overeem which hasn't fought in 3 years in strikeforce it seems like. NO brainer, come fight lesnar, carwin,velesquez, machida, mir, and silva, then you will become the best PFP best in the world and get all the credit you deserve but you will never get all that credit if you don't fight in the NFL of MMA and fight the best in the UFC. [/quote] LOL at letting WHERE a guy fights determine his value and character as a fighter

[quote name="UT#1" post="702085" timestamp="1257733714"] i hate lesnar with a passion but after seeing fedor last night i believe that lesnar carwin mir or even kongo(if he kept it standing) would give fedor all kinds of problems. he couldnt have timed that punched anymore perfect though [/quote] hes fought MUCH better strikers than any of the four you named. im not sure what rogers really did last night to make you think that... he landed 1 clean jab, held him on the cage for a while, landed a few from the top, and then got detonated.

[quote name="LTpanthers7" post="702200" timestamp="1257738823"] [quote author=venom33 link=topic=61994.msg701771#msg701771 date=1257711334] [quote author=LTpanthers7 link=topic=61994.msg701695#msg701695 date=1257704389] I have not had a chance to see WOS play this year but i did watch Coldspring and they are phenomenal, there quarterback Chad Allen let me understand...youve seen cs play a very weak liberty team who has stopped noone,you havent seen wos play this year and you come to the conclusion that if liberty couldnt stop cs wos cant either? i believe wos will be the best defense cs has seen all year. they will be fortunate to score a total of 14! [/quote] i stated clearly that i know libertys defense is weak but if you watched Coldsprings quarterback Chad Allen you would know what i am talking about you can see a talented player no matter what team they are playing against he a monster and im not saying i think WOS won't be able to stop him, i KNOW they cant but we shall see Friday as i leave my house in LIBERTY TEXAS baby to head to Huffman to watch Coldspring or my bad...to watch Chad Allen spank the WOS defense [/quote] make sure when you leave huffman to head back to your house in LIBERTY TEXAS baby you dont forget to get back on this site to eat that full plate of crow!  ;)

[quote name="fanman" post="702098" timestamp="1257734659"] WO-S thought the same thing against a weaker HUFFMAN team once also and the outcome was not in favor of the mighty stangs.l let the two teams play the game and decide who wins.in other word bring it don't sing it. Rome out [/quote] alot was learned from that game!

[quote name="LTpanthers7" post="701695" timestamp="1257704389"] I have not had a chance to see WOS play this year but i did watch Coldspring and they are phenomenal, there quarterback Chad Allen is simply unstoppable now i know it was against Liberty's defense when i saw him play but he was only tackled once i believe...i dont think WOS can stop him so whats the score going to be? [/quote] let me understand...youve seen cs play a very weak liberty team who has stopped noone,you havent seen wos play this year and you come to the conclusion that if liberty couldnt stop cs wos cant either? i believe wos will be the best defense cs has seen all year. they will be fortunate to score a total of 14!

[quote name="baseball25" post="701412" timestamp="1257659646"] Fedor is great, but he has never been in the cage against a monster like Lesnar. Lesnar is Bigger,faster, and stronger and exposes alot of problems. He might not need those guys but the fans want it. Like manny pacq he doesn't need cotto,mosley,or mayweather but he's going to give you what the fans want and he wants to be known as the PFP best. MACHIDA,SILVA, and GSP they want to give the fans the best FIGHTS OUT THERE, I mean SILVA didn't need Griffin but he fought him to prove all the fans that he's the best in the world, GSP didn't need to fight PENN again but he did it for the fans so he can prove to everyone in the world he is top 2 PFP best. All i am saying VENOM is to be the BEST you got TO BEAT THE BEST and there are some fighters out there that FEDOR needs to fight plain and simple. To get RECOGNIZE by the MMA FANS he needs to fight in the UFC not strikeforce lol that has [b]100 commercials [/b] in 2hrs lol. Give us what the fans want. MACHIDA, SILVA, GSP, PENN they give us want they want. Pacman does in Boxing so why can't FEDOR. If your a true athletic competitor then you will fight the best out there. [/quote] im telling you it was closer to 400!  :o

[quote name="BiGbAlLeR23ANDAHALF" post="701408" timestamp="1257659306"] im just gunna jump in and say coldspring by 20 wos doesn't have it this year...not like cs [/quote] we might not have what you consider "it," but i think we have enough to send coldsprings home yet again!

did anyone else notice the 400 commercials before the fedor fight? it was 15 minutes of straight commercials!  :D >:(

fedors an overweight light heavyweight dominating the heavyweight division. It just makes everything he's done over the past 6 years even more amazing. Greatest of all time. I think Brock would give him a few problems with the lay and pray but Fedor would be (and already is) favored in that fight. As for Carwin, Fedor by KO.

[quote name="baseball25" post="701389" timestamp="1257656154"] No doubt he's top 3 PFP in the world but in my mind he struggles against a athletic,stronger,bigger, fighter in lesnar, and the Cage lesnar would use that cage and smother fedor, I mean he has 2 more fights with strikeforce i mean hes going to fight werdum UFC cut him and he's going to fight overeem which hasn't fought in 3 years in strikeforce it seems like. NO brainer, come fight lesnar, carwin,velesquez, machida, mir, and silva, then you will become the best PFP best in the world and get all the credit you deserve but you will never get all that credit if you don't fight in the NFL of MMA and fight the best in the UFC. [/quote] this isnt his first time to fight a bigger/stronger opponent. one thing for sure, you cant out muscle or out "athletic" a right hook! i just think its funny that after each of his fights the fighter he just finished destroying exposed a weakness yet in his next fight its never taken advantage of and that fighter becomes another victim. i just dont understand why fedor needs mir,carwin,lesnar,or velesquez to prove who he is or solidify his place in mma history. these guys should be seeking fedor not the other way around. everyone in mma knows what the true hw championship is, its not a pretty,shiny belt... its beating fedor!  ;)

he clearly struggled. :-\  he got cut, bled, went for a few subs, then knocked his mohawk into the third row! no matter what he does its never enough. he destroys every fighter thats put in front of him, what more can he do?

silsbee by 28

menards gonna run wild! bc by 14!

i understand being realistic but you cant defeat yourself mentally before you ever step on the field!!! gilmer has a good team, but so does jasper! i think gilmer may be the ones in trouble!  

wos by 14

what is coldsprings record?

sounds like the stangs offense is doing anything they want on this weak defense!

[quote name="baseball25" post="698656" timestamp="1257511767"] Matter of fact Rogers is a threat and I like this match up so this is where it starts. Fedor could lose this weekend. [/quote] i agree.... i have a funny feeling he may get his first legit loss.

[quote name="1KatKiller" post="696884" timestamp="1257355709"] I agree. The Dc at Coldspring is the former header at Orangefield and I know for a fact that he wants a crack at WOS. [/quote] right... looking at his track record against wos hes no defensive guru! be careful what you wish for, you just might get it! as for wos, i hope we find a little heart before the playoffs start! otherwise,regardless of who we play, we could be one and done!

[quote name="UT#1" post="698562" timestamp="1257481384"] saying that lesnar doesnt stand a chance on the ground with fedor isnt true brock controlled mir on the ground one of the best BJJ guys in the heavyweight division other than nog. unless fedor can take brock down and put him on his back i see him having troubles with the size difference come fight night brock will have probably 60 lbs on him.... really excited about the card this weekend though [/quote] mir is no fedor.... im excited about saturday also! should be a great night of fights!

[quote author=baseball25 link=topic=61525.msg698459#msg698459 date=1257477156] he hasn't did it because he's being smart about what primetime slot he wants and who he signs it with............Go look at most PFP rankings fedor isn't number 1 my friend because he has fought one descent fighter in like 4 years and that was arvloski who got cut by the UFC..... here are sherdog and yahoo rankings. Those are his last 5 fights, Go check Machida last five fights,GSP, and Anderson Silva thats what PFP best fighters in the world do they fight the best and FEDOR hasn't fought the best in a whileeeeee. [b]Andrei Arlovski-UFC didn't resign Tim Sylvia- ufc didn't resign him   Hong Man Choi-Who is this guy lol   Matt Lindland- fought a 185 pound fighter     Mark Coleman-fought a grandpa that should have been a lightheavyweight [/b] i think we beat this dead horse long enough, but i would like to point a few things out. why is it when fedor fights someone he out weighs its wrong and is used to debunk his rating(lindland) but when he fights guys who grossly out weigh him nothing is said? credit is never given its only taken away! this has to be a two sided argument, if you take credit from him for smashing smaller fighters thats put in front of him give him credit for smashing much bigger fighters who are put in front of him as well. rogers 265 choi 319 sylvia 287 arlovski 265 hunt 280 zulu 390 schilt 290 fedor 6 foot 233   30-1 lesnar 265  6 ft 3in 4-1 mir  245   seriously, when was the last time he was relevant couture 220  when was the last time he was relevant plus wasnt he the lightweight champ, but nothing is said about that! herring 250  when was the last time he was relevant, dont say pride! mir 245  lesnar lost!!! soo kim 254   who the heck is he!!!??? i just cant see why a fighter who has been a champ for soooo many years and whos fought and BEAT a whos who of mma beasts should feel the need to have to chase a fighter who is 4-1 and really has done nothing. heres an idea, if lesnar REALLY wants fedor then let lesnar go to fedor instead of fedor going to lesnar. if fedor never fights lesnar it wont matter and he will still be considered the best hw ever, but lesnar has to beat fedor to ever be considered the best.

as much as i enjoyed the pride crocop i think its time to hang the gloves up... :'(

both lesnar and rogers have a punchers chance but neither stand a farts chance in the wind on the ground with fedor.