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Now that you mention it, we always talk at the Lumberton/WO-S "games" about how the raiders always seem to have a "mini-me" type player. Seriously. Coincidence that it comes up in this thread

As good as any! Gives us something to talk about thanks for the write up. IMHO I would only change a couple of things. One would be to put the 5A's at the top 1 and 2 spots and to move Newton up a couple. Also WOS is to high and I think Dayton will move them after week zero 8)

Don't even joke about that.... That's scary talk.

Monday, July 31st...two practices today...Julius Jones to appear on Sports Talk... 7:45am-I held up my personal promise to have something besides an omelet for breakfast. I had a large waffle with lots of butter and syrup...delicious. My waiter was a little baffled by my daily reuqest of a "Diet Coke" with such a nice breakfast. Hey, I need by caffeine fix like the next guy. 9:05pm-Cowboys practice notes *Safety Pat Watkins got the veteran defensive players jacked-up after his interception of a wobbly Tony Romo pass during the morning practice. *Cornerback Anthony Henry made a nice break on Drew Bledsoe's long pass intended for Terrell Owens, and broke it up. *This is the time of camp when there are 1-2 scuffles per practice...and wide received J.R. Tolver may regret his pushing and shoving with safety Roy Williams. He might live to regret it the next time he runs across the middle whether a pass is thrown his way or not. Anyone ever heard of the phrase "earholed"? *Did I truly just witness DE/LB Greg Ellis in zone coverage against Terrell Owens in the flat? Wow, Ellis smiled and said something funny to T.O. after Bledsoe's pass was incomplete...Cowboys wide receivers coach Todd Haley asked Owens to shave off his route a little shorter next time for timing purposes. *Cowboys coaching staff isn't in any panic mode, but unless I'm wrong, I've seen high-priced kicker Mike Vanderjagt has missed three short field goals in two days. I know, I know...it's just practice...but the Parcells Heat-Burn-A-Meter is rising. You know, there's a lot of discussion on whether T.O.'s first eruption might be with Parcells or Bledsoe, but it might end up being with the vocal Haley, who isn't afraid to pop off himself. 11:30am-Bill Parcells press conference notes coming up next... *Parcells mentioned this is the toughest time for any NFL player, veteran or rookie, due to no games for another two weeks, and nothing but the monotony of practice. *Parcells says he will play backup quarterback Tony Romo "a lot", adding that he just didn't think Romo was ready during the previous years, and actually saying had he played him too much in the past, it couldn't ended Romo's career. *Singled out the play of rookie safety Pat Watkins (Florida State), saying he's never seen a safety as tall as Watkins (6'5"). FYI---We have a really nice show for Sports Talk today: 4:15pm-T.R. Sullivan, mlb.com 4:30pm-Jennifer Floyd-Engel 5:07pm-Josh McQuistion-Soonerscoop.com 5:30pm-Cowboys running back Julius Jones 11:51am-Just wrapped-up an interview with Cowboys first-round pick and linebacker, Bobby Carpenter. What a nice kid...well-grounded, and said he'll always remember the Texas-Ohio State game, even though his Buckeyes were beaten. 1:09pm-Jamie ate his leftover Calzone for lunch, Craig and I had beef and chicken tacos. Oh boy!!! 2:05pm-Sad note for me, former Tyler Jr. College basketball player Byron Parker was released today by the Cowboys. Cowboys also released linebacker J.J. Horne, and wide receiver Ahman Merritt. Meanwhile, the Cowboys signed kicker Tyler Frederickson to a one-year contract. 4:45pm-My producer here in California, Jamie Lent just accomplished the unthinkable, and dropped an open bag of Oreo cookies on the floor of the Hayes RV Luxury Suite. His job is currently in jeopardy. 4:58pm-Jamie Lent is now taking a nap in the back room of the Hayes RV Luxury Suite. I guess watching Cowboys practice and covering the Parcells press conference has completely worn him out. 5:07pm-Afternoon practice was very uneventful...rookie Pat Watkins did intercept another pass. Lots of special teams work, boring, but important, Seems like the good old cooler temperatures have returned to Oxnard, which the players like...so do I. 8:09pm-Dinner time in Ventura...Jamie Lent stayed with his cheeseburger and fries diet, so Mickey Spagnola, Craig, and I went to Ventura Beach, and found an old "hole-in-the-wall" Fish & Chips restaurant, nothing fancy, but good food. 10:30pm-I'm still stuck on central time, time for some zzz's...man am I getting old or what?

Interesting. I'm a little surprised to see Jasper in over Silsbee with all of the recent talk, but I'm not shocked.

shirley martin didnt stand a chance against me, gostangs, and kicker. we made sure the board heard from the real community that cared, not just someone from a grocery store. I really enjoyed the part where she kept saying she didnt have anything against coach hooks that it was just how it was done. "Its not the who or why its the how". what a moron. a few minutes later another board member point out that if she checked the minutes from the last meeting she specifically spoke of non-tax payer and not living within the district. talk about open mouth and inserting foot. Kicker that was an example of the lesson i told you my dad taught me. better to let them think your a moron than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. Congrats to coach hooks for this is a great honor that he deserves.

they shouldve got ride of lidge and qualls, to get another reliever or 2

stepping into the BoneYard,,,, you can smell the freshly cut grass and the chalk smell on the field. You can smell the consession stand food being readied for the fans.....you greet people you dont know but remember their face from last year. you walk on the pavement heading towards your seat and waving to everybody like your the king in a royal progression...you get to your seats and catch up on how everybody is doing that have been sitting by you for the last 5 years. You talk about who is who and what they hope they can do.....the lights are bright, the band strikes up our national anthem...you hear the whistle you feel the electricity.....Bulldog football has started...and It dont get no Better ::12

Ok Rangers talk begins Monday.

like i say, quit posting about the losers........lets talk about a good texas team, the rangers!!!!!

[Hidden Content] High School football coaches learn tricks of their trade For the first time since 1956, the state capital is hosting the annual Texas High School Coaches Association coaching school, where almost 30,000 casually clad coaches gather to learn from colleagues, talk turkey and handle last-minute affairs before football season begins. Coaching school begins today and closes with a bang at 7:30 p.m. Tuesday in Memorial Stadium, where three area players suit up for the North-South All-Star football game. After that, the start of football practice for the upcoming season - Aug. 7 for most schools - is just a few days away. "You know if coaching school is here that the season can't be far off," East Chambers coach Tony Valastro said. "This is pretty much the only time you can have that many (coaches) all together at one time. "You get to see people you haven't seen from Dallas or El Paso. You get to share things and ideas. It's a great event if you can go." Valastro was at last year's event in San Antonio, where East Chambers offensive lineman Thomas Macie played in the all-star football game for the South team. "He did a great job, and I think he'd tell you he had a great time during the week," Valastro said. "That's really what the whole week and those games are about, the kids having a good time." Macie was joined in last year's game by Nederland quarterback Dustin Hood (now at Wake Forest), Jasper defensive back Jordan Patton (now at Northwestern State) and Memorial tailback Jamaal Charles (now at Texas). This year's football game will feature three high-profile players from the area: Newton running back and McNeese State signee Toddrick Pendland, West Orange-Stark athlete Kenneth (Deon) Beasley and Memorial safety Robert Joseph. Beasley and Joseph have actually been in Austin for a while now; the two Texas freshmen reported to campus earlier this summer. Port Neches-Groves coach Matt Burnett was part of the selection committee for the football game; he has been in Austin since Thursday. Although no one will represent Southeast Texas in Monday's all-star basketball game at the Erwin Center, WO-S coach Doug McCarter will conduct a lecture on "integrating up-tempo with ball-control offense." Coldspring's Franklin Reed, a Lamar signee, originally planned to play, but he backed out of the game earlier this month. The weeklong event actually started Thursday, when most players and coaches checked into their hotel and met with trainers. Players spend their days practicing and attending coordinated events. Meanwhile, thousands of coaches are in town to hear lectures from college and high school counterparts. About 800 vendors have set up booths in the Austin Convention Center, hawking products and services related to high school sports. "Coaching school ... is good if you need some last-minute equipment," said Alvin Credeur, Lumberton's first-year coach. "The other big thing there is the regional meetings. They're real good about giving insight on new rules." Since there are no significant rule changes this season, and since Credeur wanted more time at home to prepare for fall practice, he is among the few who decided to skip coaching school this year. The same goes for Valastro. "We had other stuff we needed to do here, and I've been to coaching school 21 times," Valastro said. "And I got my (graduate) degree from UT, but I don't care for Austin much." Too bad. He'll miss out on the fashion show.

Saturday, July 29th...Practice Begins, Spears Injured, T.O. "and" Family Visit KTBB's Hayes RV Luxury Suite... 8:00am-I rarely eat breakfast while at home, I'm an early riser, my wife Cindy is a night-owl...so any breakfast I get is usually on the go. But when I travel, I eat a big breakfast, usually at the hotel, and the options are great, eggs and omelets, waffles, pancakes, sausage, bacon, hash-browns, and much more. Today: Ham & Cheese Omelet, Sausage and Bacon, large glass of orange juice, and my favorite..."Diet Coke". 8:30am-ESPN's John Clayton met us at the Hayes RV Luxury Suite this morning, he's hosting his show back in Seattle from our facilities, and will also host his show with Sean Salisbury in our "Luxury Suite". Clayton was a guest on my show on Friday, and he definitely knows his stuff. It's been interesting watching him work the phones about rookie contracts, reminds me of "me" working the phones with high school coaches and trying to find out the latest recruiting news. 8:45am-Clayton and I walk out to Cowboys practice together...I told him the atmosphere this morning reminded me of the Cowboys first-ever camp appearance in Austin, pretty electric. The crowd appears to be a little rambunctious. T.O. was the last person out of the clubhouse, and the crowd went nuts. Later on, T.O. said he's always one of the last players out of the clubhouse. 9:05am-Offensive tackle Flozell Adams isn't in pads, he failed the conditioning test, but no one seems alarmed. Larry Allen failed this drill basically every year. Adams actually looks in great shape if you ask me, but who I am to talk about anyone being in shape? Adams is working out on the side with strength coach Joe Juraszek 10:20am-T.O. catches touchdown pass from Tony Romo...crowd starts chanting "T.O., T.O., T.O."... 10:40am-My favorite part of any practice, goal-line drill, the offense gets the ball at the one-yard line and both sides completely maul each other. Best hit of the day, (besides anything involving Roy Williams), Kevin Burnett drills fullback Lousaka Polite, but Polite somehow scores anyway. The intensity brought some expletives from both sides, but it also brought a huge smile to the face of safety Roy Williams. 11:00am-Usually, players from different positions are avaialble after morning or afternoon practice...and it's usually whoever gets there first gets the best position. However, Cowboys P.R. man Brett Daniels set everyone up nicely with a small podium and Jamie Lent and I were right smack in the middle of the circus. T.O. answered several questions, mostly about today's practice, but Gary Myers tried plugging away with some questions about the Eagles and Donovan McNabb...to no avail. T.O. said he enjoyed the atmosphere at this camp, and now knows more than ever why the Cowboys are "America's Team"...even though he didn't grow up wanting to be a Cowboy. 11:30am-Oops, it's time for Bill Parcells' daily press conference...be right back...again, not much to say...but defensive end Marcus Spears twisted his knee, will have an M.R.I. on his right knee, it's apparently a cartilage injury, which shouldn't take much time to heal and rehab. Spears missed three weeks of training camp a year ago with a knee injury, but was ready for opening day. 12:09pm-Our shipment of Sadler's Smoekhouse BBQ brisket from Henderson has arrived! This was great news to the KTBB "entourage", but even better news for the massive media horde, and especially the Cowboys p.r. department, players, and training staff. Now, we're on alert for our expected shipment of the John Soules Fajita Meat from Tyler... Training Camp has been good so far, but we "take it up a notch" with the late-afternoon cookouts, and media arguments about the NFL, College Football, and anything else for that matter. 3:00pm-Double Great News! The John Soules Foods fajita meat arrived this afternoon, it's time to cookout. 7:00pm-Afternoon practice ends, and after 2-3 hours of cooking fajita meat, brisket, and the 'Bama beans, several media members show up to eat free food...which has been a training camp tradition since our first year in Wichita Falls. Surprise guests tonight, besides Bradi James and Keith Davis, are Terrell Owens and Hollywood movie star Sanaa Latham (who you may know from movies such as Love and Basketball), and T.O.'s immediate family, his publicist, and others. We didn't wrap everything up until 10:00pm tonight, Mac Engel, Steve Dennis, Dale Hansen, Jim Reeves, Mickey Spagnola, Mike Doocy, Clarence Hill, Jacque Taylor, Sean Hamilton, Joe Trahan, Larry Rodriguez, and several media friends hung around discussing everything important in sports and life. I honestly don't think we ever solve anything, but there are always some great arguments. I always enjoy feeding the Cowboys training staff, equipment staff, team doctor's, public relations department, and several interns. They usually don't wrap things up until well after practice, and so I've always left something for them...they really seem to enjoy and appreciate the hospitality. We'll cook again perhaps on Wednesday or Thursday... My son Craig and I are heading to the lobby to relax for an hour or two... Nice to know there's only an afternoon practice on Sunday, but Bill Parcells' press conference will start at 11:30am...sharp. We're expecting Cowboys running back Julius Jones to stop by and record an interview for Monday's show.

My printout dated 3/06 shows Ms. Martin on page 163 of the document as owing back taxes for 2 different pieces of property in the City of Orange. These taxes are of course, city county and school taxes on property located in WOCCISD. One property has back taxes dated back to 2000 and the other property dates back to 1999. Ms. Martin spouts off about doing her homework. She forgets that others can do homework too. Her attempts on Channel 6 to clean up the mess she created with her callous and unjust comments are a result of trying to talk out of both sides of her big mouth.

How you compare teams is generally based on who you are talking to and their records lately/overall. I have friends at work that went to Lincoln and love to point out that they beat Nederland in their last year of existence. They hate to mention that Nederland was 10-1 against them in the last 11 years and owns the overall record between the schools. They would rather the discussion be based on the very last game. That year Lincoln won only their first round game. Nederland won three and ended up in the semi-finals. Two weeks after Lincoln had gone home for good, Nederland was still playing ball. Nederland beat WO-S for three straight years, effectively keeping them out of the playoffs for their last three years in 4A. I seem to remember a lot of the banter on the bulletin boards between WO-S and Nederland. The Nederland fans (and I was one) crowed about three straight years of victory. The WO-S fans seemed to care mostly about the overall record that is heavily in favor of WO-S. Now that WO-S has won the last two years, I am sure they don't mind discussing the last two years, much like my friends from Lincoln like to dismiss the 10 straight years of losses to Nederland. WO-S is rightfully proud of their state championships but wasn't their last one like in '88? I doubt any of this year's seniors was even alive the last time WO-S took it all but I still hear a lot of talk about it. The bottom line is, people like to discuss what is in favor of their argument whether it be recent past or overall history. I see it on all sides from supporters of all teams. It is called making an argument for your case. Just remember this, a person could always be a supporter of Vidor or Lumberton and not have anything to defend recent or overall history. Oh yeah, did I mention Nederland won state in 1957..............

No, an 8-0 record by an average score of 37-6 makes it real easy for the "WOS group" to talk smack about Lumberton. P.S. to WOS92. No, what YOU just posted was the funniest thing I ever read! I gotta remember that joke.

Friday, July 28th, Oxnard-California 6:26am-Never fails, everyone I know, knows I'm in California, but they always forget about the 2-hour difference in time...argh! 6:45am-My head is still on central time, plus I can't get back to sleep...time to get to camp and hug Coach Parcells. 9:05am-After an incredible breakfast at the Ventura Beach Marriott (ham and egg omelet with pepper jack cheese), Jamie and I arrive at the Hayes RV Luxury Suite...otherwise known as the place where everyone in camp wishes they could be. 9:15am-Cowboys staff member asks when we'll start cooking the food...now I know why everyone was excited to see us. 9:30am-Jamie Lent, Mike Laroux, and I check in for credentials. Cowboys PR stud Brett Daniels tells me that T.O. might be the only one "off-limits" for interviews this summer. 10:15am-Jamie Lent discover "ants" infiltrating our kitchen sink in the RV...apparently tasting Mike Laroux's loaf of bread. 11:00am-Bill Parcells Press Conference about to begin, I can't control myself!!! Did I hear Jerry Jones say he "hopes" the Cowboys make the post-season? You sign T.O., Vanderjagt, extend Parcells contract, and you "hope" to make the playoffs? The ultimate Cowboys optimist has been muzzled? 17 of the 44 questions during today's press conference were about Terrell Owens...none of them were something we haven't already heard before... 2:07pm-Sports Talk begins... Jennifer Floyd-Engel tells me she wants to be in California, but won't be here until August 5th...we'll miss her. ESPN's John Clayton says covering Cowboys Training Camp is always a circus... Most open-line callers appear happy with the Rangers trading for Carlos Lee...most defend Jerry Jones for "toning down his Cowboys predictions." 5:00pm-Sports Talk ends...seemed like another good show. We start having player interviews on Monday. 5:15pm-First T.O. sighting around our RV and Smoker...talking with a couple of teammates... Smoaky's Camp Goal---get T.O. to the smoker, and eventually an interview inside the Hayes RV Luxury Suite. 5:45pm-Dinner time...time for some Buffalo Wings, and beating Jamie Lent and my son Craig in Putt-Putt. 8:05pm-Jamie had steak quesadillas, Craig ordered a healthy chicken salad, and I gobbled down a cajun chicken sandwich. We ate at Cronie's Bar & Grill...always good food, nice atmosphere, but terrible service and it was hot as heck. Sunday, July 30th...Cowboys lose a tight end, one practice today... 10:00am-I'm in a rut for breakfast, third straight day of ham and cheese omelet, although I added some veggies (mushrooms, green peppers, and onions) today. Tomorrow--no doubt, I'm ordering waffles with lots of syrup and butter. 11:30am-Bill Parcells Press Conference Notes *Tight end Brett Pierce has been lost for the season after reinjuring his ACL. *Defensive end Marcus Spears is having surgery today on his torn meniscus, should be back within 2-3 weeks. *Offensive tackle Flozell Adams will practice today, apparently ran 86 50-yard dashes on Saturday, although I would think "dashes" might be exaggerated. *Parcells said his short conversation with defensive end Greg Ellis was nothing more than talking technique, and Parcells says he and Ellis have a very good relationship and the ability to separate the business side of the game from the on-field side of the game. *Parcells singled out cornerback Terrance Newman as perhaps the most dedicated and player with the most commitment of anyone on the team for his off-season workout regimen. Parcells also added offensive tackle Rob Pettiti probably improved the most of any one player during the off-season...but said the second-year pro must take that improvement from the weight room onto the field. *Parcells said he's asked Newman to take any punt return duties "more seriously", and that he will be used as a spot return man at times...although the Cowboys are hoping Skylar Green gets most of those returns. *Parcells called tight end Jason Whitten "The Big Easy", in reference to Whitten riding the big wave (contract extension)...and says Whitten has a high ceiling, but not quite ready to include him in the same breath as Ben Coates and Mark Bavaro. *When asked which side of the ball is easier to rebuild through the draft... I think the defense for me personally, because there's wider array of people that I can look at and say this guy fits here specifically, and the key position on offense is at quarterback, and there are just very few of those options available to you on a yearly basis. And some of the one's that appear to be the cream of the crop for that year, have of those aren't any good at the end of the day." 1:03pm-Jamie Lent and I are on our way to Walmart to shop for football cards. 2:00pm-Fairly uneventful practice, intermixed with some special teams work for the first time. Linebacker Kevin Burnett and offensive tackle Marc Colombo were involved in a little cat-fight during the team scrimmage portion of practice. Burnett tried to land a punch, but the 6-8, 320-pound Colombo didn't seem fazed. I originally thought Greg Ellis was involved, but as usual he was a peace-keeper. Cowboys will have an intra-squad scrimmage next Saturday, and of course that's when coaches can see even more on tape, with younger players and bubble players under fire. 7:00pm-Jamie Lent, Craig Smoak, and I went to Andria's for some great seafood, but the line out the front door scared us off. The line suggests great food that's worth waiting for, but we didn't have time to wait.

Actually, WOS and NED are even in the last six games (NED is up 3-2 in the past 5, though). WOS won in 2000, NED won from 01-03, and WOS won in 04 and 05. NED and WOS share the benefit of having good, stable coaching staffs. We lost a few key members of our coaching squad in 01 and didn't get them back until 04, and you see how much of a difference it made for us. When you talk about how come WOS or NED can win games against teams most people think will beat them, it has to be about good coaching -- getting players to be overachievers.

Well I am a Junior for the Lumberton Football Team, and I was one of those 6 sophmores that were moved up last season, we were some of the best players on that team. This summer everybody has been workin hard to get ready for this football season, we have a good attitude about this year, we want to change things, prove our community wrong and prove others that have graduated that we are not a losing team and all this hype will be for real. Our parents have been in full support of us throughout the years. Coach C has a great offense and everbody knows how to run it, we have good players and a good coaching staff so be ready for us to make some noise this year. Yea guys mock me all you want talk down to me and our team it will just make us work harder to prove everybody wrong. Good Luck to all the teams this year in Southeast Texas

yea lol but those days are over.....again i say, lets talk about a winning texas team.....lets talk about the rangers

ASTROS LOSE!!!!!ASTROS LOSE!!!!YES!!!! in case yall havent guessed, i hate the astros because they are stupid........lets talk about a good team like the rangers........ill start..........how bout them rangers???

There are some rules, but it's pretty much common sense issues -- don't call people names (you may not even be allowed to use anyone's name in a negative context during your speech), limit the discussion to 5 minutes (if there are a lot of people, they will ask the audience to limit the number of people who will talk on the topic), and a few other minor things they'll explain at the meeting. The MOST IMPORTANT THING: Get there early to put your name on the list of people who wish to address the board. If you don't get your name on the list, you can't speak! According to the WOCCISD website (www.woccisd.net), the board meeting will begin at 6:00 on Monday, July 31 (my birthday). The meetings are held at the administration building behind what I used to call East Campus near what used to be Wells Fargo bank (on 15th street and Green). I think the vote is going to pass without much issue, so, as emotional as this may be for some people, let's try to hold our head up high and act civilized. Ms. Martin is a joke and everyone knows it -- even she knows it -- so let's have a good laugh at her expense. Who knows? Perhaps the board can give me a pretty cool birthday present by naming my favorite stadium in honor of one of the greatest coaches in Texas!

Im not totaly sure of the rules, but of what I hear, GoStangs likes to fight the woman to death. The way he is, we may not have to talk at all. One thing I wanted to do, was for all of us to wear WOS football shirts!!!

Blue, get the respect before you talk the smack! I will go out on a limb here and say that Lumberton does not make the playoffs this year. It looks to me like about a five horse race for 3 spots. I see it this way: Central Nederland Ozen Dayton PNG Any 3-way combination of the the above would not surprise me. Anybody besides these 5 making it would surpise me.

the worst i have ever played in was against H-J my sophmore year (03-04 i think) at Buna we lost 71-15 we had 14 guys that night on the varsity. our starting quarterback was sick with the flu our center had gotten hurt in practice the day before. Some guys had failed and quit and one guy got in a wreck that ended his season. on the last play of the game the QB for H-J faked the kneel and ran it in for another touchdown. talk about sportsmanship. I was a sophmore weighing in at about 165 pounds roughly and had to play center for the first time all year and I was blockin this nose guard who looked like he had just got out of the pin and had a beard. I remember one play he took me with one hand and threw me into the backfield. That game was the worst for me. The worst I have ever been to as far as weather I'm not sure but as far as play I saw LCM get beat by PNG pretty bad one year. I also heard that at a Coldspring game last year there were kids sent to the hospital because of fighting on the field. Not sure on the truth in that but if so I bet that was a bad game.

Unless at least two of your losses are in pre-district, 7-3 probably won't get ya the playoffs in that district. If you earn that record though, you'll have to beat New Caney, Cleveland, LC-M and Vidor. That's four wins. That means you'll have to pull off at least THREE major upsets among your games with PN-G, Nederland, Ozen, Central and Bridge City. I just don't see that happening. Certainly anything is possible, but y'all are just going to have to prove it on the field. All of this talk is kind of funny to those of us not from Lumberton.