Summer Creek Domination? Nederland Domination?

[DemDAWGS!]

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398 I would even go as far as to say other than Aaron Sharp there's not a player in Humble ISD that could start for North Shore. Dakota Allen probably could too if he switched positions due to the fact Whitley is already commited to  Alabama.
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[b]Gotta throw the flag on you right there Cougar14.  Northshore is still riding their state championship. [/b]  SC had several kids that could have either started or rotated.  You're not going to keep guys like State Track champion Greg Hogan on the sideline.  Torrey Johnson is a flat out play maker with exceptional hands.  You'd have to give him time.  So add Dakota & Aaron to the list ...we're at a handful.  There's a few more guys that I believe would see time as well ...just think they'd benefit from more individual time & coaching.
[/quote]Riding a state championship? They won almost 80 district games in a row at one point. Is Greg Hogan playing over Alabama signee Deandrew White who was 4.3 all day in high school? Larry McDuffie was the other receiver and went to Houston. Hogan probably does rotate in but Dakota wouldn't start over Whitley who plays the same position he does at NS. Handful? Come on man, you have one for sure in Sharp and Peterson probably wouldn't start either unless he played center because both guards and tackles NS has now will play D1. Torrey Johnson is decent but he's probably the third receiver on NS's roster. As talented as you may believe SC is NS would put 50 on you on an off day and you would score less than you did on Georgetown. It has yet to be proven that the SC kids aren't just system kids like Lake Travis or Katy.
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Gah-dammit Cougar14 you made me spit out my coffee!

NS and other 5A schools have the ability to whoop up on SC because of the lack of beef on the lines.  We'll get killed in the trenches.  That aside, we see NS in the off season.  Those guys have a few stand outs and the rest are all mouth.  If they had more players, they'd run Katy off the field ...AS THEY SHOULD.  We  have 4.3 and 4.4 guys at every skill position ...starting with our 200m champion QB.  Our lineman run 4.6's.
[/quote]Wipe off your screen so you can read this then. Georgetown won 3 games in two years in 5a and beat y'all soundly last year. Take the number of good athletes you have and double it. Could you beat that team? Georgetown couldn't make the playoffs in 5a and beat y'all, I don't know the last time NS didn't make the playoffs and most of the time they're three rounds deep in D1.
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Finally we agree on something.  [b]Look no further than the O & D lines.  Gtown loses that game if SC had a comparable line[/b].  Our skill players didn't lose that game ...they kept us in it.
[/quote]If y'all had a comparable line? Why wouldn't you, y'all have more kids. SC plays the game from the outside in which is why y'alls linemen are soft. We haven't had a good pass heavy team in the district I can rember but the second time around will be a lot harder. And for all the talent you speak of at SC why has Crosby had more D1 recruits the past couple of years? Our kids can play in any system, the jury is still out on y'alls.
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I agree.  Not sure why we can't find lineman in the 1,400 kids in our school.  The knock on Humble and Northshore is we consistantly have stand out RB's and Receivers ...but suffer on the line.  On that list you sent (need to look again) ...[b]how many of those kids were O lineman?[/b]  Crosby and Dayton were the baddest boys on the block until last year.  Some perspective came out of Humble ISD.
[/quote]OK you're in there with Bedelmon now. North Shore is O-Line high. There's not a school in the start who're produced the linemen NS has over the last 5 years or so.
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Then they have no excuse to not run Katy off the field consistantly.  They  keep skill guys on the roster like an NFL team.

[DemDAWGS!]

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398 I would even go as far as to say other than Aaron Sharp there's not a player in Humble ISD that could start for North Shore. Dakota Allen probably could too if he switched positions due to the fact Whitley is already commited to  Alabama.
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[b]Gotta throw the flag on you right there Cougar14.  Northshore is still riding their state championship. [/b]  SC had several kids that could have either started or rotated.  You're not going to keep guys like State Track champion Greg Hogan on the sideline.  Torrey Johnson is a flat out play maker with exceptional hands.  You'd have to give him time.  So add Dakota & Aaron to the list ...we're at a handful.  There's a few more guys that I believe would see time as well ...just think they'd benefit from more individual time & coaching.
[/quote]Riding a state championship? They won almost 80 district games in a row at one point. Is Greg Hogan playing over Alabama signee Deandrew White who was 4.3 all day in high school? Larry McDuffie was the other receiver and went to Houston. Hogan probably does rotate in but Dakota wouldn't start over Whitley who plays the same position he does at NS. Handful? Come on man, you have one for sure in Sharp and Peterson probably wouldn't start either unless he played center because both guards and tackles NS has now will play D1. Torrey Johnson is decent but he's probably the third receiver on NS's roster. As talented as you may believe SC is NS would put 50 on you on an off day and you would score less than you did on Georgetown. It has yet to be proven that the SC kids aren't just system kids like Lake Travis or Katy.
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Gah-dammit Cougar14 you made me spit out my coffee!

NS and other 5A schools have the ability to whoop up on SC because of the lack of beef on the lines.  We'll get killed in the trenches.  That aside, we see NS in the off season.  Those guys have a few stand outs and the rest are all mouth.  If they had more players, they'd run Katy off the field ...AS THEY SHOULD.  We  have 4.3 and 4.4 guys at every skill position ...starting with our 200m champion QB.  Our lineman run 4.6's.
[/quote]Wipe off your screen so you can read this then. Georgetown won 3 games in two years in 5a and beat y'all soundly last year. Take the number of good athletes you have and double it. Could you beat that team? Georgetown couldn't make the playoffs in 5a and beat y'all, I don't know the last time NS didn't make the playoffs and most of the time they're three rounds deep in D1.
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Finally we agree on something.  [b]Look no further than the O & D lines.  Gtown loses that game if SC had a comparable line[/b].  Our skill players didn't lose that game ...they kept us in it.
[/quote]If y'all had a comparable line? Why wouldn't you, y'all have more kids. SC plays the game from the outside in which is why y'alls linemen are soft. We haven't had a good pass heavy team in the district I can rember but the second time around will be a lot harder. And for all the talent you speak of at SC why has Crosby had more D1 recruits the past couple of years? Our kids can play in any system, the jury is still out on y'alls.
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I agree.  Not sure why we can't find lineman in the 1,400 kids in our school.  The knock on Humble and Northshore is we consistantly have stand out RB's and Receivers ...but suffer on the line.  On that list you sent (need to look again) ...[b]how many of those kids were O lineman?[/b]  Crosby and Dayton were the baddest boys on the block until last year.  Some perspective came out of Humble ISD.
[/quote]OK you're in there with Bedelmon now. North Shore is O-Line high. There's not a school in the start who're produced the linemen NS has over the last 5 years or so.
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95% of the OL prospects came from Galena Park ...I was referrring to NS HS ...not the entire district. 

[mytwocents-28]

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Those 21 points.  As I recal Crosy had 3 TD's in the 1st half.  As for SC's point, yes, they were scored over 4 quarters
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Well you recall wrong lol.

See.


Scoring summary
CRO -- Justin Walter 34-yard pass from Aston Walter (Juan Ochoa kick), 9:21, 1st.
HSC -- Jordan Braden 14-yard run (Jorge Trujillo kick), 11:53, 2nd.
HSC -- KeeVon Aldrige 5-yard run (Jorge Trujillo kick), 9:49, 2nd.
CRO -- Aston Walter 1-yard run (Juan Ochoa kick), 7:58, 2nd.
HSC -- KeeVon Aldrige 69-yard pass from Aaron Sharp (Jorge Trujillo kick), 1:50, 2nd.
HSC -- Nick Davis 4-yard pass from Aaron Sharp (Jorge Trujillo kick), 4:29, 3rd.
HSC -- Gregory Hogan 51-yard pass from Aaron Sharp (Jorge Trujillo kick), 2:54, 3rd.
[size=14pt][b]CRO -- Justin Walter 25-yard pass from Aston Walter (Juan Ochoa kick), [size=18pt]11:38, 4th[/size].[/b][/size]
HSC -- Gregory Hogan 15-yard pass from Aaron Sharp (Jorge Trujillo kick), 10:07, 4th.
HSC -- KeeVon Aldrige 3-yard run (Jorge Trujillo kick), 3:26, 4th.

[HUM398]

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BTW,  Georgetown isn't even the biggest school in their district.  Pflugerville Connally , one of the teams that we sent home is.
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Nederland Enrollment            1478.5

Teams vs in playoffs last year                  results
Dayton                                    1443        Win 21-7
Pflugerville Connally                2004        Win 17-10
Pearland Dawson                    2032        Win 22-19
Georgetown                            1990        Lost 38-6

and have yet to hear 1 ( NOT 1 ) Bulldog fan cry about Georgetown being 5-A THE YEAR BEFORE....

and with Summer Creek being the HOT NEW SCHOOL as you put it... and all the D1 players coming to play there in the first 3 years .... wouldnt you consider that a recruiting move also?? whether they came because it was a new school or recruited by Coaches, friends, parents, community... how can you gripe about Georgetown moving down from 5-A ... when SC got to draw all the talent from Humble ISD because it was the new school on the block.... you talk about all these D1 players coming out of SC.... [b]what school would they have played for if SC wasn't built??? [/b]
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Calm down coach ...you're gonna blow a gasket.  I must respectfullly set you straight.  For Nederland to only score a few TD's on Dayton and Connally is more of a sign of the weakness of Nederland (offensively).  SC manhandled Dayton to say the least.  I saw footage of Connally ...less than impressive.  The Pearland win was impressive and Nederland deserves all the respect that goes with it.  Not sure if anyone picked Nederland to win vs. Dawson.  You got smoked by Gtown who was a senior loaded team that played 5A the prior year.  No shame in that.

If SC wasn't built, those kids would have been split between Humble and Atascocita.  Humble would have been the SC of 4A.

Keep in mind that SC was able to score on Gtown with some effectiveness.  More than any other teams they saw until Guyer.  We were just too small on the Offensive and Defensive lines. 

Last but not least, SC [s]has[/s] [b]had[/b] enrollment of sub 1400 and we're still the greatest show on turf.
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I fixed your typo for you.... here is the link you can verify the last alignment enrollment #'s...

[url=http://www.uiltexas.org/files/alignments/4A-fb-bb-enroll-2012.pdf]http://www.uiltexas.org/files/alignments/4A-fb-bb-enroll-2012.pdf[/url]
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Coach I'm starting to think you're a part of this conspiracy.  Not you too.  Those numbers are misleading due to another magnet high school operating within SC.  Also, you must consider the kids that moved from Humble when that HS got the unsatisfactory rating.  I've heard there will be an entire wing of SC that will not be in use next year.  Enrollment is dropping.  We may never get out of 4A.  Our trophy case will need to be expanded.
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I believe you are trolling here.

Quest HS is temporarily using the southern wing, it is expected to return to its campus at some point.  The numbers are also not included in the total count, as it is a separate entity all together.  Its not like the IB program at Humble, it has its own principal and administration.

[bronco pride]

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398 I would even go as far as to say other than Aaron Sharp there's not a player in Humble ISD that could start for North Shore. Dakota Allen probably could too if he switched positions due to the fact Whitley is already commited to  Alabama.
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LOL!

Oh yes there is.  Youre going to sit here and tell me that a school district that has put numerous kids in to D1 schools and d2 colleges every year doesn't have anyone that could start for North shore?    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You must not be familiar with the level of athlete that this school district produces.  Urban Myer once called it the most fertile recruiting ground in Texas. 

Don't mistaken having a Texas Legendary coach like David Aymond fool you into thinking that the talent at NS is unmatched.  their are very few areas in the state that have produced as much talent as ours.
[/quote]Urban Meyer must have never been to North Shore. All the prospect in Humble ISD over about the last decade vs a single high school

Humble ISD - http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/recruit-search-results?year=&sport_id=1&sport=football&keywords=humble

North Shore - http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/recruit-search-results?year=&sport_id=1&sport=football&keywords=north+shore

They've had more prospect than your entire district and better ones too. You need more than this? North Shore doesn't have twice the enrollment either, their school is just in a different place if you know what I'm saying. Bronco, I'm not knocking your son's friend but he's probably not good enough to play at NS which is the reason he doesn't like the coaching either.
[/quote]he is actually a starting safety. Why would you make comments about kids you dont even know. It makes you sound ignorant which i dont think you are.

[cougar14]

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398 I would even go as far as to say other than Aaron Sharp there's not a player in Humble ISD that could start for North Shore. Dakota Allen probably could too if he switched positions due to the fact Whitley is already commited to  Alabama.
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[b]Gotta throw the flag on you right there Cougar14.  Northshore is still riding their state championship. [/b]  SC had several kids that could have either started or rotated.  You're not going to keep guys like State Track champion Greg Hogan on the sideline.  Torrey Johnson is a flat out play maker with exceptional hands.  You'd have to give him time.  So add Dakota & Aaron to the list ...we're at a handful.  There's a few more guys that I believe would see time as well ...just think they'd benefit from more individual time & coaching.
[/quote]Riding a state championship? They won almost 80 district games in a row at one point. Is Greg Hogan playing over Alabama signee Deandrew White who was 4.3 all day in high school? Larry McDuffie was the other receiver and went to Houston. Hogan probably does rotate in but Dakota wouldn't start over Whitley who plays the same position he does at NS. Handful? Come on man, you have one for sure in Sharp and Peterson probably wouldn't start either unless he played center because both guards and tackles NS has now will play D1. Torrey Johnson is decent but he's probably the third receiver on NS's roster. As talented as you may believe SC is NS would put 50 on you on an off day and you would score less than you did on Georgetown. It has yet to be proven that the SC kids aren't just system kids like Lake Travis or Katy.
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Gah-dammit Cougar14 you made me spit out my coffee!

NS and other 5A schools have the ability to whoop up on SC because of the lack of beef on the lines.  We'll get killed in the trenches.  That aside, we see NS in the off season.  Those guys have a few stand outs and the rest are all mouth.  If they had more players, they'd run Katy off the field ...AS THEY SHOULD.  We  have 4.3 and 4.4 guys at every skill position ...starting with our 200m champion QB.  Our lineman run 4.6's.
[/quote]Wipe off your screen so you can read this then. Georgetown won 3 games in two years in 5a and beat y'all soundly last year. Take the number of good athletes you have and double it. Could you beat that team? Georgetown couldn't make the playoffs in 5a and beat y'all, I don't know the last time NS didn't make the playoffs and most of the time they're three rounds deep in D1.
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Finally we agree on something.  [b]Look no further than the O & D lines.  Gtown loses that game if SC had a comparable line[/b].  Our skill players didn't lose that game ...they kept us in it.
[/quote]If y'all had a comparable line? Why wouldn't you, y'all have more kids. SC plays the game from the outside in which is why y'alls linemen are soft. We haven't had a good pass heavy team in the district I can rember but the second time around will be a lot harder. And for all the talent you speak of at SC why has Crosby had more D1 recruits the past couple of years? Our kids can play in any system, the jury is still out on y'alls.
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I agree.  Not sure why we can't find lineman in the 1,400 kids in our school.  The knock on Humble and Northshore is we consistantly have stand out RB's and Receivers ...but suffer on the line.  On that list you sent (need to look again) ...[b]how many of those kids were O lineman?[/b]  Crosby and Dayton were the baddest boys on the block until last year.  Some perspective came out of Humble ISD.
[/quote]OK you're in there with Bedelmon now. North Shore is O-Line high. There's not a school in the start who're produced the linemen NS has over the last 5 years or so.
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[b]95% of the OL prospects came from Galena Park ...I was referrring to NS HS ...not the entire district. [/b] [/quote]What? Evey kid on the list played at North Shore High School. Galena Park is part of Houston where North Shore is. 

[mytwocents-28]

Isn't the school called galena park north shore??

[cougar14]

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398 I would even go as far as to say other than Aaron Sharp there's not a player in Humble ISD that could start for North Shore. Dakota Allen probably could too if he switched positions due to the fact Whitley is already commited to  Alabama.
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LOL!

Oh yes there is.  Youre going to sit here and tell me that a school district that has put numerous kids in to D1 schools and d2 colleges every year doesn't have anyone that could start for North shore?    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You must not be familiar with the level of athlete that this school district produces.  Urban Myer once called it the most fertile recruiting ground in Texas. 

Don't mistaken having a Texas Legendary coach like David Aymond fool you into thinking that the talent at NS is unmatched.  their are very few areas in the state that have produced as much talent as ours.
[/quote]Urban Meyer must have never been to North Shore. All the prospect in Humble ISD over about the last decade vs a single high school

Humble ISD - http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/recruit-search-results?year=&sport_id=1&sport=football&keywords=humble

North Shore - http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/recruit-search-results?year=&sport_id=1&sport=football&keywords=north+shore

They've had more prospect than your entire district and better ones too. You need more than this? North Shore doesn't have twice the enrollment either, their school is just in a different place if you know what I'm saying. Bronco, I'm not knocking your son's friend but he's probably not good enough to play at NS which is the reason he doesn't like the coaching either.
[/quote]he is actually a starting safety. Why would you make comments about kids you dont even know. It makes you sound ignorant which i dont think you are.
[/quote]What's his name so I can look him up?

[cougar14]

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Isn't the school called galena park north shore??
[/quote]Yes it is. Dawgs will figure that out once the Hennessey wears off.

[DemDAWGS!]

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398 I would even go as far as to say other than Aaron Sharp there's not a player in Humble ISD that could start for North Shore. Dakota Allen probably could too if he switched positions due to the fact Whitley is already commited to  Alabama.
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[b]Gotta throw the flag on you right there Cougar14.  Northshore is still riding their state championship. [/b]  SC had several kids that could have either started or rotated.  You're not going to keep guys like State Track champion Greg Hogan on the sideline.  Torrey Johnson is a flat out play maker with exceptional hands.  You'd have to give him time.  So add Dakota & Aaron to the list ...we're at a handful.  There's a few more guys that I believe would see time as well ...just think they'd benefit from more individual time & coaching.
[/quote]Riding a state championship? They won almost 80 district games in a row at one point. Is Greg Hogan playing over Alabama signee Deandrew White who was 4.3 all day in high school? Larry McDuffie was the other receiver and went to Houston. Hogan probably does rotate in but Dakota wouldn't start over Whitley who plays the same position he does at NS. Handful? Come on man, you have one for sure in Sharp and Peterson probably wouldn't start either unless he played center because both guards and tackles NS has now will play D1. Torrey Johnson is decent but he's probably the third receiver on NS's roster. As talented as you may believe SC is NS would put 50 on you on an off day and you would score less than you did on Georgetown. It has yet to be proven that the SC kids aren't just system kids like Lake Travis or Katy.
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Gah-dammit Cougar14 you made me spit out my coffee!

NS and other 5A schools have the ability to whoop up on SC because of the lack of beef on the lines.  We'll get killed in the trenches.  That aside, we see NS in the off season.  Those guys have a few stand outs and the rest are all mouth.  If they had more players, they'd run Katy off the field ...AS THEY SHOULD.  We  have 4.3 and 4.4 guys at every skill position ...starting with our 200m champion QB.  Our lineman run 4.6's.
[/quote]Wipe off your screen so you can read this then. Georgetown won 3 games in two years in 5a and beat y'all soundly last year. Take the number of good athletes you have and double it. Could you beat that team? Georgetown couldn't make the playoffs in 5a and beat y'all, I don't know the last time NS didn't make the playoffs and most of the time they're three rounds deep in D1.
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Finally we agree on something.  [b]Look no further than the O & D lines.  Gtown loses that game if SC had a comparable line[/b].  Our skill players didn't lose that game ...they kept us in it.
[/quote]If y'all had a comparable line? Why wouldn't you, y'all have more kids. SC plays the game from the outside in which is why y'alls linemen are soft. We haven't had a good pass heavy team in the district I can rember but the second time around will be a lot harder. And for all the talent you speak of at SC why has Crosby had more D1 recruits the past couple of years? Our kids can play in any system, the jury is still out on y'alls.
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I agree.  Not sure why we can't find lineman in the 1,400 kids in our school.  The knock on Humble and Northshore is we consistantly have stand out RB's and Receivers ...but suffer on the line.  On that list you sent (need to look again) ...[b]how many of those kids were O lineman?[/b]  Crosby and Dayton were the baddest boys on the block until last year.  Some perspective came out of Humble ISD.
[/quote]OK you're in there with Bedelmon now. North Shore is O-Line high. There's not a school in the start who're produced the linemen NS has over the last 5 years or so.
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[b]95% of the OL prospects came from Galena Park ...I was referrring to NS HS ...not the entire district. [/b] [/quote]What? Evey kid on the list played at North Shore High School. Galena Park is part of Houston where North Shore is.
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There's TWO schools. Galena Park HS and Northshore HS.  They share the same stadium.  The Mustangs and the Yellow Jackets.  When I was speaking of NS, I was referring to the specific school.  You were referring to the entire district.

[cougar14]

No I wasn't refering to the entire district. All these kids are from one school. One more time for you Dawgs. Every player on this list went or goes to NORTH SHORE HIGH SCHOOL.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/recruit-search-results?year=&sport_id=1&sport=football&keywords=north+shore

[mytwocents-28]

Some day he'll learn cougar.




Hopefully.....

[bronco pride]

[quote name="cougar14" post="1411839" timestamp="1370623833"]
No I wasn't refering to the entire district. All these kids are from one school. One more time for you Dawgs. Every player on this list went or goes to NORTH SHORE HIGH SCHOOL.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/recruit-search-results?year=&sport_id=1&sport=football&keywords=north+shore
[/quote]theres actually a fairly descent player not on that list.

[DemDAWGS!]

[quote name="cougar14" post="1411839" timestamp="1370623833"]
No I wasn't refering to the entire district. All these kids are from one school. One more time for you Dawgs. Every player on this list went or goes to NORTH SHORE HIGH SCHOOL.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/recruit-search-results?year=&sport_id=1&sport=football&keywords=north+shore
[/quote]

Man, this list is all screwed up.  It might as well be Crosby's offensive playbook.

[DemDAWGS!]

[quote name="cougar14" post="1411839" timestamp="1370623833"]
No I wasn't refering to the entire district. All these kids are from one school. One more time for you Dawgs. Every player on this list went or goes to NORTH SHORE HIGH SCHOOL.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/recruit-search-results?year=&sport_id=1&sport=football&keywords=north+shore
[/quote]

Looks like the first OL on the list was a Yellowjacket and not a Mustang.  Trey Hopkins.

[mytwocents-28]

[quote name="DemDAWGS!" post="1411849" timestamp="1370624629"]
[quote author=cougar14 link=topic=111829.msg1411839#msg1411839 date=1370623833]
No I wasn't refering to the entire district. All these kids are from one school. One more time for you Dawgs. Every player on this list went or goes to NORTH SHORE HIGH SCHOOL.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/recruit-search-results?year=&sport_id=1&sport=football&keywords=north+shore
[/quote]

Looks like the first OL on the list was a Yellowjacket and not a Mustang.  Trey Hopkins.
[/quote]
Oh really now?? That's why he's wearing a red mustang shirt in this rivals pic.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/recruit-photos-71676;_ylt=Avx7TkUVziMoD9BLwpjweXxHPZB4#photoViewer=109014

And a northshore jersey in this pic.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/recruit-photos-71676;_ylt=Avx7TkUVziMoD9BLwpjweXxHPZB4#photoViewer=139673


And a northshore helmet with the mustang sign in this picture
http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/recruit-photos-71676;_ylt=Avx7TkUVziMoD9BLwpjweXxHPZB4#photoViewer=181412



Come on demdawgs. Your just making yourself look more and more dumb.

[DemDAWGS!]

[quote name="$MTC-28$" post="1411851" timestamp="1370624839"]
[quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=111829.msg1411849#msg1411849 date=1370624629]
[quote author=cougar14 link=topic=111829.msg1411839#msg1411839 date=1370623833]
No I wasn't refering to the entire district. All these kids are from one school. One more time for you Dawgs. Every player on this list went or goes to NORTH SHORE HIGH SCHOOL.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/recruit-search-results?year=&sport_id=1&sport=football&keywords=north+shore
[/quote]

Looks like the first OL on the list was a Yellowjacket and not a Mustang.  Trey Hopkins.
[/quote]
Oh really now?? That's why he's wearing a red mustang shirt in this rivals pic.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/recruit-photos-71676;_ylt=Avx7TkUVziMoD9BLwpjweXxHPZB4#photoViewer=109014

And a northshore jersey in this pic.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/recruit-photos-71676;_ylt=Avx7TkUVziMoD9BLwpjweXxHPZB4#photoViewer=139673


And a northshore helmet with the mustang sign in this picture
http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/recruit-photos-71676;_ylt=Avx7TkUVziMoD9BLwpjweXxHPZB4#photoViewer=181412



Come on demdawgs. Your just making yourself look more and more dumb.
[/quote]

You are correct, but photo I saw was muddy ...looked like he was in yellow and black.

[mytwocents-28]

[quote name="DemDAWGS!" post="1411854" timestamp="1370624984"]
[quote author=$MTC-28$ link=topic=111829.msg1411851#msg1411851 date=1370624839]
[quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=111829.msg1411849#msg1411849 date=1370624629]
[quote author=cougar14 link=topic=111829.msg1411839#msg1411839 date=1370623833]
No I wasn't refering to the entire district. All these kids are from one school. One more time for you Dawgs. Every player on this list went or goes to NORTH SHORE HIGH SCHOOL.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/recruit-search-results?year=&sport_id=1&sport=football&keywords=north+shore
[/quote]

Looks like the first OL on the list was a Yellowjacket and not a Mustang.  Trey Hopkins.
[/quote]
Oh really now?? That's why he's wearing a red mustang shirt in this rivals pic.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/recruit-photos-71676;_ylt=Avx7TkUVziMoD9BLwpjweXxHPZB4#photoViewer=109014

And a northshore jersey in this pic.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/recruit-photos-71676;_ylt=Avx7TkUVziMoD9BLwpjweXxHPZB4#photoViewer=139673


And a northshore helmet with the mustang sign in this picture
http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/recruit-photos-71676;_ylt=Avx7TkUVziMoD9BLwpjweXxHPZB4#photoViewer=181412



Come on demdawgs. Your just making yourself look more and more dumb.
[/quote]

You are correct, but photo I saw was muddy ...looked like he was in yellow and black.
[/quote]
::)

[cougar14]

[quote name="bronco pride" post="1411845" timestamp="1370624263"]
[quote author=cougar14 link=topic=111829.msg1411839#msg1411839 date=1370623833]
No I wasn't refering to the entire district. All these kids are from one school. One more time for you Dawgs. Every player on this list went or goes to NORTH SHORE HIGH SCHOOL.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/recruit-search-results?year=&sport_id=1&sport=football&keywords=north+shore
[/quote]theres actually a fairly descent player not on that list.
[/quote]What is your buddy's son name who starts for North Shore? Was he on the varsity last year?

[DemDAWGS!]

[quote name="cougar14" post="1411859" timestamp="1370625252"]
[quote author=bronco pride link=topic=111829.msg1411845#msg1411845 date=1370624263]
[quote author=cougar14 link=topic=111829.msg1411839#msg1411839 date=1370623833]
No I wasn't refering to the entire district. All these kids are from one school. One more time for you Dawgs. Every player on this list went or goes to NORTH SHORE HIGH SCHOOL.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/recruit-search-results?year=&sport_id=1&sport=football&keywords=north+shore
[/quote]theres actually a fairly descent player not on that list.
[/quote]What is your buddy's son name who starts for North Shore? Was he on the varsity last year?
[/quote]

I think he's the kid that got knocked out during SC's 7-on-7 with NS.

[cougar14]

[quote name="DemDAWGS!" post="1411862" timestamp="1370625505"]
[quote author=cougar14 link=topic=111829.msg1411859#msg1411859 date=1370625252]
[quote author=bronco pride link=topic=111829.msg1411845#msg1411845 date=1370624263]
[quote author=cougar14 link=topic=111829.msg1411839#msg1411839 date=1370623833]
No I wasn't refering to the entire district. All these kids are from one school. One more time for you Dawgs. Every player on this list went or goes to NORTH SHORE HIGH SCHOOL.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/recruit-search-results?year=&sport_id=1&sport=football&keywords=north+shore
[/quote]theres actually a fairly descent player not on that list.
[/quote]What is your buddy's son name who starts for North Shore? Was he on the varsity last year?
[/quote]

I think he's the kid that got knocked out during SC's 7-on-7 with NS.
[/quote]Did North Shore have some light skinned guys in the secondary during 7 on 7 because i didn't see any when I watched practice with my cousin about 4 or 5 weeks ago?

[DemDAWGS!]

[quote name="cougar14" post="1411884" timestamp="1370627620"]
[quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=111829.msg1411862#msg1411862 date=1370625505]
[quote author=cougar14 link=topic=111829.msg1411859#msg1411859 date=1370625252]
[quote author=bronco pride link=topic=111829.msg1411845#msg1411845 date=1370624263]
[quote author=cougar14 link=topic=111829.msg1411839#msg1411839 date=1370623833]
No I wasn't refering to the entire district. All these kids are from one school. One more time for you Dawgs. Every player on this list went or goes to NORTH SHORE HIGH SCHOOL.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/recruit-search-results?year=&sport_id=1&sport=football&keywords=north+shore
[/quote]theres actually a fairly descent player not on that list.
[/quote]What is your buddy's son name who starts for North Shore? Was he on the varsity last year?
[/quote]

I think he's the kid that got knocked out during SC's 7-on-7 with NS.
[/quote]Did North Shore have some light skinned guys in the secondary during 7 on 7 because i didn't see any when I watched practice with my cousin about 4 or 5 weeks ago?
[/quote]

LOL... I was talking about last year (a NS kid did get knocked out ...how does that happen in 7-on-7...lol) and was j/k.

[HUM398]

[quote name="cougar14" post="1411760" timestamp="1370617851"]

Urban Meyer must have never been to North Shore. All the prospect in Humble ISD over about the last decade vs a single high school

Humble ISD - http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/recruit-search-results?year=&sport_id=1&sport=football&keywords=humble

North Shore - http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/recruit-search-results?year=&sport_id=1&sport=football&keywords=north+shore

They've had more prospect than your entire district and better ones too. You need more than this? North Shore doesn't have twice the enrollment either, their school is just in a different place if you know what I'm saying. Bronco, I'm not knocking your son's friend but he's probably not good enough to play at NS which is the reason he doesn't like the coaching either.
[/quote]

I find this to be a rather strange debate.  Basically you are asserting some facts (north shore is talented) and then making the assumption that others schools talent could possibly start for a north shore team....because the personal talent level is just off the charts and unmatched ....alleging ridiculous claims like their are 50 kids running around that are 6'1 190 and run a 4.6....when people say that NS talent grows on tree's....its hyperbole not fact....you are aware of this, right?    You are ignoring that alot goes into a prospect being recruitable to a D1 school. Kids that athletically are d1 caliber, just don't make the cut for various reasons.  For example, Eisenhower high school and Nimitz high school are two of the most athletic teams in the country.... Every year they have kids that are just as big, fast, and strong as North Shore.  HOWEVER, the coaching staffs and system are not conducive to producing d1 ready kids.    But you would have me believe that because Ike hasn't has as many d1 signee's in the last 10 years that they are not every bit as athletically talented?  Ignoring the fact that that team under coach Carson produced some of the most talent laden teams this state has ever seen.

North Shore before David Aymond was a laughing stock.  The demographics were not the much different in mid 90's. In fact, their were far less hispanics (typically do not play Football).  North Shore, having superior athletes to Humble.....would routinely get their face masks stomped into the ground to a tune of 40-50 points.  The kids were no less "talented", however they did have inferior coaching and system in place.    It wasn't until Coach aymond arrived that they starting beating Humble in much closer contests.    Like NS, Humble exhibited an array of athletically gifted kids that were just better coached.  And at the time, put more kids in college then NS....Despite NS having the better stock if you will.  At no point in time would i have EVER said that no way that their best kids couldn't start for us.

[DemDAWGS!]

Interesting perspective ...the list of recruits from NS over the recent years can't be denied.  This plays to your point re: coaching.  But then look at Katy (Katy HS, not the entire district).  They have stellar coaching but seem short on D1 prospects.  I guess the answer is coaching AND talent ...but sure seems like talent wins over coaching in terms of recruiting.

[HUM398]

[quote name="DemDAWGS!" post="1411904" timestamp="1370630733"]
Interesting perspective ...the list of recruits from NS over the recent years can't be denied.  This plays to your point re: coaching.  But then look at Katy (Katy HS, not the entire district).  They have stellar coaching but seem short on D1 prospects.  I guess the answer is coaching AND talent ...but sure seems like talent wins over coaching in terms of recruiting.
[/quote]

It does.  However, i think its rather stupid to rate talent level based on how many kids get d1 offers.  That speaks to the hard work of the individual, parents, and his head coach that marketed him then it speaks about availability of talent.  If i have the best tool in the world, and have no idea how to apply it to accomplish a purpose....it doesn't matter how great the tool is.  Some coaches focus on individual talent application, other adopt the one heart one beat mentality .  At this level the later produces better results for the team, the previous better for a single player.  North Shore will highlight a player as a center piece, Katy will just insert pieces.  to behave however that this somehow means the talent is less then NS is ridiculous.  anyone that see's Katy play, knows they are not only physically talented....but they operate as a single organism.  Its truly beautiful to watch, there is not a finer program in all the country.

North Shore kids will tell you that playing Katy is like nothing they have ever done before.  The coaches will tell you its the most difficult team they ever had to prepare for.  Every team, who has ever played Katy...win or lose will sing nothing but praises about them.    In fact, later in life the players will tell stories about the times they got their rear ends handed to them by the boys from west of Houston or brag that their were one of the very few that every beat Katy.

Katy doesn't have a ton of d1 success or NFL success, but those kids can ball nonetheless.    Katy is a superior program to NS in ever facet except how many kids get full scholarships.  One of the most important aspects, is that they produce winners in every aspect of life at Katy.    Excellence is Tradition is their motto, and it extends and permeates far past the gridiron.