Summer Creek Domination? Nederland Domination?

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

[quote name="ram0524" post="1414416" timestamp="1371599189"]
[quote author=Mr. Buddy Garrity link=topic=111829.msg1414389#msg1414389 date=1371590806]
[quote author=Coach Comeaux link=topic=111829.msg1414385#msg1414385 date=1371590600]
[quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=111829.msg1414378#msg1414378 date=1371590111]
One word ...CHAMPAGNE.  Going to be soooo sweet this year.
[/quote]

haha either to toast the championship or drown the constant drumming MBG is going to give you... hahahaha
[/quote] Oh he's gonna need to check into rehab after their 1st round exit at the hands of Nederland or Central.  ;)
[/quote]

How would that work out?
[/quote] When Central makes the playoffs this year that bumps Vidor down to D2.

[mytwocents-28]

[quote name="Mr. Buddy Garrity" post="1414419" timestamp="1371600165"]
[quote author=ram0524 link=topic=111829.msg1414416#msg1414416 date=1371599189]
[quote author=Mr. Buddy Garrity link=topic=111829.msg1414389#msg1414389 date=1371590806]
[quote author=Coach Comeaux link=topic=111829.msg1414385#msg1414385 date=1371590600]
[quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=111829.msg1414378#msg1414378 date=1371590111]
One word ...CHAMPAGNE.  Going to be soooo sweet this year.
[/quote]

haha either to toast the championship or drown the constant drumming MBG is going to give you... hahahaha
[/quote] Oh he's gonna need to check into rehab after their 1st round exit at the hands of Nederland or Central.  ;)
[/quote]

How would that work out?
[/quote] When Central makes the playoffs this year that bumps Vidor down to D2.
[/quote]
yeah. there are 3 schools that are bigger than vidor. central ned and png. if two of those 3 make the playoffs then vidor goes d2.

[DemDAWGS!]

[quote name="Mr. Buddy Garrity" post="1414389" timestamp="1371590806"]
[quote author=Coach Comeaux link=topic=111829.msg1414385#msg1414385 date=1371590600]
[quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=111829.msg1414378#msg1414378 date=1371590111]
One word ...CHAMPAGNE.  Going to be soooo sweet this year.
[/quote]

haha either to toast the championship or drown the constant drumming MBG is going to give you... hahahaha
[/quote] Oh he's gonna need to check into rehab after their 1st round exit at the hands of Nederland or Central.  ;)
[/quote]

IF SC can play some solid defense, Nederland doesn't have a prayer. SC's offense is sizing up to be effective passing and running PLUS we have a more than mobile QB.  We'll see how the O Line performs.

I've never seen Central play. I'll take ur word for it

[ram0524]

[quote name="DemDAWGS!" post="1414441" timestamp="1371609236"]
[quote author=Mr. Buddy Garrity link=topic=111829.msg1414389#msg1414389 date=1371590806]
[quote author=Coach Comeaux link=topic=111829.msg1414385#msg1414385 date=1371590600]
[quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=111829.msg1414378#msg1414378 date=1371590111]
One word ...CHAMPAGNE.  Going to be soooo sweet this year.
[/quote]

haha either to toast the championship or drown the constant drumming MBG is going to give you... hahahaha
[/quote] Oh he's gonna need to check into rehab after their 1st round exit at the hands of Nederland or Central.  ;)
[/quote]

IF SC can play some solid defense, Nederland doesn't have a prayer. SC's offense is sizing up to be effective passing and running PLUS we have a more than mobile QB.  We'll see how the O Line performs.

I've never seen Central play. I'll take ur word for it
[/quote]

Central is more athletic, but Ned is a better team.

[DemDAWGS!]

Hmmmm?  Am curious to see if Ned can muster any offense this year.  If their offense improves they could be scary.  I assume Ned is well coached too. My biggest knocks on Ned is they don't seem to be good defending the pass and they don't score a lot of points.  If they face an offense w/ the ability to throw and score quickly, sounds like certain death for Ned.  They're not gonna win a shoot out (if their team this year is similar to last year). 

[ram0524]

[quote name="DemDAWGS!" post="1414445" timestamp="1371610402"]
Hmmmm?  Am curious to see if Ned can muster any offense this year.  If their offense improves they could be scary.  I assume Ned is well coached too. My biggest knocks on Ned is they don't seem to be good defending the pass and they don't score a lot of points.  If they face an offense w/ the ability to throw and score quickly, sounds like certain death for Ned.  They're not gonna win a shoot out (if their team this year is similar to last year).
[/quote]

This team is going to be different.. A lot more mobility this year. Going to see the spread on offense a lot more. Offense is going to be their strong suit this year. Ned will ALWAYS be well coached.

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

[quote name="ram0524" post="1414449" timestamp="1371612982"]
[quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=111829.msg1414445#msg1414445 date=1371610402]
Hmmmm?  Am curious to see if Ned can muster any offense this year.  If their offense improves they could be scary.  I assume Ned is well coached too. My biggest knocks on Ned is they don't seem to be good defending the pass and they don't score a lot of points.  If they face an offense w/ the ability to throw and score quickly, sounds like certain death for Ned.  They're not gonna win a shoot out (if their team this year is similar to last year).
[/quote]

This team is going to be different.. A lot more mobility this year. Going to see the spread on offense a lot more. Offense is going to be their strong suit this year. Ned will ALWAYS be well coached.
[/quote] I highly doubt he's saw more than 1 NED game before SC was sitting at home comfy watching the real teams play big-boy ball.

[ram0524]

[quote name="Mr. Buddy Garrity" post="1414469" timestamp="1371618645"]
[quote author=ram0524 link=topic=111829.msg1414449#msg1414449 date=1371612982]
[quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=111829.msg1414445#msg1414445 date=1371610402]
Hmmmm?  Am curious to see if Ned can muster any offense this year.  If their offense improves they could be scary.  I assume Ned is well coached too. My biggest knocks on Ned is they don't seem to be good defending the pass and they don't score a lot of points.  If they face an offense w/ the ability to throw and score quickly, sounds like certain death for Ned.  They're not gonna win a shoot out (if their team this year is similar to last year).
[/quote]

This team is going to be different.. A lot more mobility this year. Going to see the spread on offense a lot more. Offense is going to be their strong suit this year. Ned will ALWAYS be well coached.
[/quote] I highly doubt he's saw more than 1 NED game before SC was sitting at home comfy watching the real teams play big-boy ball.
[/quote]

;D ;D ;D

[DemDAWGS!]

[quote name="Mr. Buddy Garrity" post="1414469" timestamp="1371618645"]
[quote author=ram0524 link=topic=111829.msg1414449#msg1414449 date=1371612982]
[quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=111829.msg1414445#msg1414445 date=1371610402]
Hmmmm?  Am curious to see if Ned can muster any offense this year.  If their offense improves they could be scary.  I assume Ned is well coached too. My biggest knocks on Ned is they don't seem to be good defending the pass and they don't score a lot of points.  If they face an offense w/ the ability to throw and score quickly, sounds like certain death for Ned.  They're not gonna win a shoot out (if their team this year is similar to last year).
[/quote]

This team is going to be different.. A lot more mobility this year. Going to see the spread on offense a lot more. Offense is going to be their strong suit this year. Ned will ALWAYS be well coached.
[/quote] I highly doubt he's saw more than 1 NED game before SC was sitting at home comfy watching the real teams play big-boy ball.
[/quote]

Had Ned played GT in the 1st round or at any point prior to the 3rd round, they were going HOME.  And yes, same could be said for SC. But SC would have beat Ned through the air.

[bronco pride]

These are the reasons i think ned will have a big drop off this year. Michael shaw,Seth barrow,Carson raines,Jordan wood.Korbin stampley,Brock pryor, Koby couron. There were 14 other seniors on this team but these are the ones that imo will be most missed.

[DemDAWGS!]

[quote name="bronco pride" post="1414500" timestamp="1371648743"]
These are the reasons i think ned will have a big drop off this year. Michael shaw,Seth barrow,Carson raines,Jordan wood.Korbin stampley,Brock pryor, Koby couron. There were 14 other seniors on this team but these are the ones that imo will be most missed.
[/quote]

Garrity is riding Ned's horse, but with the loss of those key seniors ...and even with them they got a beat down from GT ...I agree Ned is dropping down this year.  Garrity will say (like a trained parrot) that SC got a beat down from GT too, BUT SC is bringing back a few key Seniors on offense and a few more that will be on the highlight reel.

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

[quote name="DemDAWGS!" post="1414541" timestamp="1371656689"]
[quote author=bronco pride link=topic=111829.msg1414500#msg1414500 date=1371648743]
These are the reasons i think ned will have a big drop off this year. Michael shaw,Seth barrow,Carson raines,Jordan wood.Korbin stampley,Brock pryor, Koby couron. There were 14 other seniors on this team but these are the ones that imo will be most missed.
[/quote]

Garrity is riding Ned's horse, but with the loss of those key seniors ...and even with them they got a beat down from GT ...I agree Ned is dropping down this year.  Garrity will say (like a trained parrot) that SC got a beat down from GT too, BUT SC is bringing back a few key Seniors on offense and a few more that will be on the highlight reel.
[/quote] Show some respect for a better football program than SC. If you knew any better you would know NED just reloads.

[DemDAWGS!]

[quote name="Mr. Buddy Garrity" post="1414545" timestamp="1371656934"]
[quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=111829.msg1414541#msg1414541 date=1371656689]
[quote author=bronco pride link=topic=111829.msg1414500#msg1414500 date=1371648743]
These are the reasons i think ned will have a big drop off this year. Michael shaw,Seth barrow,Carson raines,Jordan wood.Korbin stampley,Brock pryor, Koby couron. There were 14 other seniors on this team but these are the ones that imo will be most missed.
[/quote]

Garrity is riding Ned's horse, but with the loss of those key seniors ...and even with them they got a beat down from GT ...I agree Ned is dropping down this year.  Garrity will say (like a trained parrot) that SC got a beat down from GT too, BUT SC is bringing back a few key Seniors on offense and a few more that will be on the highlight reel.
[/quote] Show some respect for a better football program than SC. If you knew any better you would know NED just reloads.
[/quote]

So do you at the buffet ...lol!  Ned may do well in district, but they lost too much to be a serious contender this year.  Next year should be a good one for them IF they can find the endzone.

[snafu]

[quote name="DemDAWGS!" post="1414547" timestamp="1371657047"]
[quote author=Mr. Buddy Garrity link=topic=111829.msg1414545#msg1414545 date=1371656934]
[quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=111829.msg1414541#msg1414541 date=1371656689]
[quote author=bronco pride link=topic=111829.msg1414500#msg1414500 date=1371648743]
These are the reasons i think ned will have a big drop off this year. Michael shaw,Seth barrow,Carson raines,Jordan wood.Korbin stampley,Brock pryor, Koby couron. There were 14 other seniors on this team but these are the ones that imo will be most missed.
[/quote]

Garrity is riding Ned's horse, but with the loss of those key seniors ...and even with them they got a beat down from GT ...I agree Ned is dropping down this year.  Garrity will say (like a trained parrot) that SC got a beat down from GT too, BUT SC is bringing back a few key Seniors on offense and a few more that will be on the highlight reel.
[/quote] Show some respect for a better football program than SC. If you knew any better you would know NED just reloads.
[/quote]

So do you at the buffet ...lol!  Ned may do well in district, but they lost too much to be a serious contender this year.  Next year should be a good one for them IF they can find the endzone.
[/quote]

I think the old adage fits here better than anything else...

[b]Defense wins championships[/b].... best example that shows you need a good Defense to compete... Summer Creek... even with the offense you had when you ran into a defense you lost... you couldn't stop them and they stopped you...

[ram0524]

[quote name="bronco pride" post="1414500" timestamp="1371648743"]
These are the reasons i think ned will have a big drop off this year. Michael shaw,Seth barrow,Carson raines,Jordan wood.Korbin stampley,Brock pryor, Koby couron. There were 14 other seniors on this team but these are the ones that imo will be most missed.
[/quote]

No doubt that those guys will be tough to replace, it's always hard replacing talent like that.
But Krautz is FAST (making up Shaw's speed), Seay has size and speed (Seth didn't too much have size), White will be a drop off from Raines, but he will still be good, Healthy Mayfield may be better than both Stampley and Wood, Washington is replacing Pryor size up the middle.

[CAL2TEX]

[quote name="DemDAWGS!" post="1414445" timestamp="1371610402"]
Hmmmm?  Am curious to see if Ned can muster any offense this year.  If their offense improves they could be scary.  I assume Ned is well coached too. My biggest knocks on Ned is they don't seem to be good defending the pass and [b]they don't score a lot of points[/b].  If they face an offense w/ the ability to throw and score quickly, sounds like certain death for Ned.  They're not gonna win a shoot out (if their team this year is similar to last year). [/quote]

So..  averaging 30 points per game in 2012 no longer qualifies you as "scoring a lot of points"?    ???

[CAL2TEX]

[quote name="Coach Comeaux" post="1414553" timestamp="1371657461"]
[quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=111829.msg1414547#msg1414547 date=1371657047]
[quote author=Mr. Buddy Garrity link=topic=111829.msg1414545#msg1414545 date=1371656934]
[quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=111829.msg1414541#msg1414541 date=1371656689]
[quote author=bronco pride link=topic=111829.msg1414500#msg1414500 date=1371648743]
These are the reasons i think ned will have a big drop off this year. Michael shaw,Seth barrow,Carson raines,Jordan wood.Korbin stampley,Brock pryor, Koby couron. There were 14 other seniors on this team but these are the ones that imo will be most missed.
[/quote]

Garrity is riding Ned's horse, but with the loss of those key seniors ...and even with them they got a beat down from GT ...I agree Ned is dropping down this year.  Garrity will say (like a trained parrot) that SC got a beat down from GT too, BUT SC is bringing back a few key Seniors on offense and a few more that will be on the highlight reel.
[/quote] Show some respect for a better football program than SC. If you knew any better you would know NED just reloads.
[/quote]

So do you at the buffet ...lol!  Ned may do well in district, but they lost too much to be a serious contender this year.  Next year should be a good one for them IF they can find the endzone.
[/quote]

I think the old adage fits here better than anything else...

Defense wins championships.... best example that shows you need a good Defense to compete... [b]Summer Creek... even with the offense you had when you ran into a defense you lost... you couldn't stop them and they stopped you...[/b][/quote]

Exactly.  +1

[DemDAWGS!]

[quote name="Coach Comeaux" post="1414553" timestamp="1371657461"]
[quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=111829.msg1414547#msg1414547 date=1371657047]
[quote author=Mr. Buddy Garrity link=topic=111829.msg1414545#msg1414545 date=1371656934]
[quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=111829.msg1414541#msg1414541 date=1371656689]
[quote author=bronco pride link=topic=111829.msg1414500#msg1414500 date=1371648743]
These are the reasons i think ned will have a big drop off this year. Michael shaw,Seth barrow,Carson raines,Jordan wood.Korbin stampley,Brock pryor, Koby couron. There were 14 other seniors on this team but these are the ones that imo will be most missed.
[/quote]

Garrity is riding Ned's horse, but with the loss of those key seniors ...and even with them they got a beat down from GT ...I agree Ned is dropping down this year.  Garrity will say (like a trained parrot) that SC got a beat down from GT too, BUT SC is bringing back a few key Seniors on offense and a few more that will be on the highlight reel.
[/quote] Show some respect for a better football program than SC. If you knew any better you would know NED just reloads.
[/quote]

So do you at the buffet ...lol!  Ned may do well in district, but they lost too much to be a serious contender this year.  Next year should be a good one for them IF they can find the endzone.
[/quote]

I think the old adage fits here better than anything else...

[b]Defense wins championships[/b].... best example that shows you need a good Defense to compete... Summer Creek... even with the offense you had when you ran into a defense you lost... you couldn't stop them and they stopped you...
[/quote]

Don't believe Ned won a championship with their defense last year.  Defense is vital, but you need offense too.  A good defense can look bad if their offense can't sustain drives.  They wear out.  Had Ned been able to sustain offense and avoid turnovers, they could have beat GT ...and yes, their defense would have been the key.

[snafu]

[quote name="DemDAWGS!" post="1414600" timestamp="1371664742"]
[quote author=Coach Comeaux link=topic=111829.msg1414553#msg1414553 date=1371657461]
[quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=111829.msg1414547#msg1414547 date=1371657047]
[quote author=Mr. Buddy Garrity link=topic=111829.msg1414545#msg1414545 date=1371656934]
[quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=111829.msg1414541#msg1414541 date=1371656689]
[quote author=bronco pride link=topic=111829.msg1414500#msg1414500 date=1371648743]
These are the reasons i think ned will have a big drop off this year. Michael shaw,Seth barrow,Carson raines,Jordan wood.Korbin stampley,Brock pryor, Koby couron. There were 14 other seniors on this team but these are the ones that imo will be most missed.
[/quote]

Garrity is riding Ned's horse, but with the loss of those key seniors ...and even with them they got a beat down from GT ...I agree Ned is dropping down this year.  Garrity will say (like a trained parrot) that SC got a beat down from GT too, BUT SC is bringing back a few key Seniors on offense and a few more that will be on the highlight reel.
[/quote] Show some respect for a better football program than SC. If you knew any better you would know NED just reloads.
[/quote]

So do you at the buffet ...lol!  Ned may do well in district, but they lost too much to be a serious contender this year.  Next year should be a good one for them IF they can find the endzone.
[/quote]

I think the old adage fits here better than anything else...

[b]Defense wins championships[/b].... best example that shows you need a good Defense to compete... Summer Creek... even with the offense you had when you ran into a defense you lost... you couldn't stop them and they stopped you...
[/quote]

Don't believe Ned won a championship with their defense last year.  Defense is vital, but you need offense too.  A good defense can look bad if their offense can't sustain drives.  They wear out. [b] Had Ned been able to sustain offense and avoid turnovers, [/b]they could have beat GT ...and yes, their defense would have been the key.
[/quote]

you said it in a nutshell right there.... the Defense didn't lose that game... they got left on a short porch a few times due to turnovers... now  you can also say that the Defense for GTown was better because they did shutdown Ned's Offense and GTowns Offense capitalized on it.... something to be said about leaving a good defense with its heels on the goal line... Vidor did the same thing against SC and SC made them pay for it... Same thing happened to Vidor against Angleton the year before... we went in leading at half time had 2 turnovers inside our own 20 and Angleton punched both in the next play.... Short Porch and Defense is like oil and water... it just don't mix...

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

[quote name="Coach Comeaux" post="1414606" timestamp="1371665807"]
[quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=111829.msg1414600#msg1414600 date=1371664742]
[quote author=Coach Comeaux link=topic=111829.msg1414553#msg1414553 date=1371657461]
[quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=111829.msg1414547#msg1414547 date=1371657047]
[quote author=Mr. Buddy Garrity link=topic=111829.msg1414545#msg1414545 date=1371656934]
[quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=111829.msg1414541#msg1414541 date=1371656689]
[quote author=bronco pride link=topic=111829.msg1414500#msg1414500 date=1371648743]
These are the reasons i think ned will have a big drop off this year. Michael shaw,Seth barrow,Carson raines,Jordan wood.Korbin stampley,Brock pryor, Koby couron. There were 14 other seniors on this team but these are the ones that imo will be most missed.
[/quote]

Garrity is riding Ned's horse, but with the loss of those key seniors ...and even with them they got a beat down from GT ...I agree Ned is dropping down this year.  Garrity will say (like a trained parrot) that SC got a beat down from GT too, BUT SC is bringing back a few key Seniors on offense and a few more that will be on the highlight reel.
[/quote] Show some respect for a better football program than SC. If you knew any better you would know NED just reloads.
[/quote]

So do you at the buffet ...lol!  Ned may do well in district, but they lost too much to be a serious contender this year.  Next year should be a good one for them IF they can find the endzone.
[/quote]

I think the old adage fits here better than anything else...

[b]Defense wins championships[/b].... best example that shows you need a good Defense to compete... Summer Creek... even with the offense you had when you ran into a defense you lost... you couldn't stop them and they stopped you...
[/quote]

Don't believe Ned won a championship with their defense last year.  Defense is vital, but you need offense too.  A good defense can look bad if their offense can't sustain drives.  They wear out. [b] Had Ned been able to sustain offense and avoid turnovers, [/b]they could have beat GT ...and yes, their defense would have been the key.
[/quote]

you said it in a nutshell right there.... the Defense didn't lose that game... they got left on a short porch a few times due to turnovers... [b]now  you can also say that the Defense for GTown was better because they did shutdown Ned's Offense and [u]GTowns Offense capitalized on it[/u][/b].... something to be said about leaving a good defense with its heels on the goal line... Vidor did the same thing against SC and SC made them pay for it... Same thing happened to Vidor against Angleton the year before... we went in leading at half time had 2 turnovers inside our own 20 and Angleton punched both in the next play.... Short Porch and Defense is like oil and water... it just don't mix...
[/quote] Thats exactly what happened.

[DemDAWGS!]

[quote name="CAL2TEX" post="1414572" timestamp="1371660593"]
[quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=111829.msg1414445#msg1414445 date=1371610402]
Hmmmm?  Am curious to see if Ned can muster any offense this year.  If their offense improves they could be scary.  I assume Ned is well coached too. My biggest knocks on Ned is they don't seem to be good defending the pass and [b]they don't score a lot of points[/b].  If they face an offense w/ the ability to throw and score quickly, sounds like certain death for Ned.  They're not gonna win a shoot out (if their team this year is similar to last year). [/quote]

So..  averaging 30 points per game in 2012 no longer qualifies you as "scoring a lot of points"?    ???
[/quote]

They did score well during the the first 3/4 of the season.  I stand corrected.  They slowed down significantly during the last four games.  Did a key player get hurt?

[dustoff03]

[quote name="DemDAWGS!" post="1414652" timestamp="1371672820"]
[quote author=CAL2TEX link=topic=111829.msg1414572#msg1414572 date=1371660593]
[quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=111829.msg1414445#msg1414445 date=1371610402]
Hmmmm?  Am curious to see if Ned can muster any offense this year.  If their offense improves they could be scary.  I assume Ned is well coached too. My biggest knocks on Ned is they don't seem to be good defending the pass and [b]they don't score a lot of points[/b].  If they face an offense w/ the ability to throw and score quickly, sounds like certain death for Ned.  They're not gonna win a shoot out (if their team this year is similar to last year). [/quote]

So..  averaging 30 points per game in 2012 no longer qualifies you as "scoring a lot of points"?    ???
[/quote]

They did score well during the the first 3/4 of the season.  I stand corrected.  They slowed down significantly during the last four games.  Did a key player get hurt?
[/quote]
their last 4 season games saw a combined 165 pts scored and only 26 allowed.

[DemDAWGS!]

[quote name="Coach Comeaux" post="1414606" timestamp="1371665807"]
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[quote author=Mr. Buddy Garrity link=topic=111829.msg1414545#msg1414545 date=1371656934]
[quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=111829.msg1414541#msg1414541 date=1371656689]
[quote author=bronco pride link=topic=111829.msg1414500#msg1414500 date=1371648743]
These are the reasons i think ned will have a big drop off this year. Michael shaw,Seth barrow,Carson raines,Jordan wood.Korbin stampley,Brock pryor, Koby couron. There were 14 other seniors on this team but these are the ones that imo will be most missed.
[/quote]

Garrity is riding Ned's horse, but with the loss of those key seniors ...and even with them they got a beat down from GT ...I agree Ned is dropping down this year.  Garrity will say (like a trained parrot) that SC got a beat down from GT too, BUT SC is bringing back a few key Seniors on offense and a few more that will be on the highlight reel.
[/quote] Show some respect for a better football program than SC. If you knew any better you would know NED just reloads.
[/quote]

So do you at the buffet ...lol!  Ned may do well in district, but they lost too much to be a serious contender this year.  Next year should be a good one for them IF they can find the endzone.
[/quote]

I think the old adage fits here better than anything else...

[b]Defense wins championships[/b].... best example that shows you need a good Defense to compete... Summer Creek... even with the offense you had when you ran into a defense you lost... you couldn't stop them and they stopped you...
[/quote]

Don't believe Ned won a championship with their defense last year.  Defense is vital, but you need offense too.  A good defense can look bad if their offense can't sustain drives.  They wear out. [b] Had Ned been able to sustain offense and avoid turnovers, [/b]they could have beat GT ...and yes, their defense would have been the key.
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you said it in a nutshell right there.... the Defense didn't lose that game... they got left on a short porch a few times due to turnovers... now  you can also say that the Defense for GTown was better because they did shutdown Ned's Offense and GTowns Offense capitalized on it.... something to be said about leaving a good defense with its heels on the goal line... Vidor did the same thing against SC and SC made them pay for it... Same thing happened to Vidor against Angleton the year before... we went in leading at half time had 2 turnovers inside our own 20 and Angleton punched both in the next play.... Short Porch and Defense is like oil and water... it just don't mix...
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True ...turnovers kill.  GT's defense was good, but they weren't devastating.  They allowed SC to march the field a few times. With GT's size advantage, they really should have held SC more.  Had SC ran the ball consistently ...the game could have been closer.  Ford was throwing on almost every down looking panicked/desperate.  Instead, we should have ran the ball more and allowed things to develop.  You can't give the ball back to a team like GT after quick 3 and outs.  SC was used to playing from a (big) lead.  Can't recall any regular season game where they had to play from behind.

[DemDAWGS!]

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Hmmmm?  Am curious to see if Ned can muster any offense this year.  If their offense improves they could be scary.  I assume Ned is well coached too. My biggest knocks on Ned is they don't seem to be good defending the pass and [b]they don't score a lot of points[/b].  If they face an offense w/ the ability to throw and score quickly, sounds like certain death for Ned.  They're not gonna win a shoot out (if their team this year is similar to last year). [/quote]

So..  averaging 30 points per game in 2012 no longer qualifies you as "scoring a lot of points"?    ???
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They did score well during the the first 3/4 of the season.  I stand corrected.  They slowed down significantly during the last four games.  Did a key player get hurt?
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their last 4 season games saw a combined 165 pts scored and only 26 allowed.
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I'm talking into the playoffs.  I got 66 points for Ned.  Opponents = 74.  Also, they only scored 21 on DAYTON.  They had to be resting starters.

[ram0524]

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[quote author=dustoff03 link=topic=111829.msg1414659#msg1414659 date=1371673307]
[quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=111829.msg1414652#msg1414652 date=1371672820]
[quote author=CAL2TEX link=topic=111829.msg1414572#msg1414572 date=1371660593]
[quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=111829.msg1414445#msg1414445 date=1371610402]
Hmmmm?  Am curious to see if Ned can muster any offense this year.  If their offense improves they could be scary.  I assume Ned is well coached too. My biggest knocks on Ned is they don't seem to be good defending the pass and [b]they don't score a lot of points[/b].  If they face an offense w/ the ability to throw and score quickly, sounds like certain death for Ned.  They're not gonna win a shoot out (if their team this year is similar to last year). [/quote]

So..  averaging 30 points per game in 2012 no longer qualifies you as "scoring a lot of points"?    ???
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They did score well during the the first 3/4 of the season.  I stand corrected.  They slowed down significantly during the last four games.  Did a key player get hurt?
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their last 4 season games saw a combined 165 pts scored and only 26 allowed.
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I'm talking into the playoffs.  I got 66 points for Ned.  Opponents = 74.  Also, they only scored 21 on DAYTON.  They had to be resting starters.
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Our offense was not meant to put 50 on the board each week. It was meant to drain the clock, keep the defense off the field, and wear out the opposing defense. You don't need to average 50 a game to be a good offense. Our "bad" offense went to the 4th round while SC "amazing" offense only went two.