Summer Creek is going to be nasty this year... See Aaron Sharp

[ram0524]

[quote name="DemDAWGS!" post="1407327" timestamp="1369266956"]
[quote author=dustoff03 link=topic=111838.msg1407323#msg1407323 date=1369266590]
[quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=111838.msg1407315#msg1407315 date=1369266203]
The only knowledge I need about my team is they opened a can of whoop a** on Vidor.  The conversation begins and ends there.  I mean, can you name any teams in Beaumont that beat SC?
[/quote]
hey, we acknowledged that loss and gave credit to SC. we didn't whine about enrollment numbers like you did with G-town which by the UIL's COUNT ACTUALLY WAS A BIT SMALLER SCHOOL.
[/quote]

There is a distinct advantage schools have during their 1st year dropping down.  We saw it with Humble as well.  The real G-Town will stand up this year.  SC was ROBBED of our birth rite.  The UiL added to the pain by setting us up against G-Town in round 2.  That game should have been to determine who went to state.  Neverland and Angleton had no business playing after week 2.  SC would have stomped either squad.
[/quote]
Whatever you say, besides, SC would have got crushed by Guyer in the state championship.

[DemDAWGS!]

Hey...nobody brought up Guyer.  >:(

[dustoff03]

[quote name="DemDAWGS!" post="1407327" timestamp="1369266956"]
[quote author=dustoff03 link=topic=111838.msg1407323#msg1407323 date=1369266590]
[quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=111838.msg1407315#msg1407315 date=1369266203]
The only knowledge I need about my team is they opened a can of whoop a** on Vidor.  The conversation begins and ends there.  I mean, can you name any teams in Beaumont that beat SC?
[/quote]
hey, we acknowledged that loss and gave credit to SC. we didn't whine about enrollment numbers like you did with G-town which by the UIL's COUNT ACTUALLY WAS A BIT SMALLER SCHOOL.
[/quote]

There is a distinct advantage schools have during their 1st year dropping down.  We saw it with Humble as well.  The real G-Town will stand up this year.  [b]SC was ROBBED of our birth rite.[/b]  The UiL added to the pain by setting us up against G-Town in round 2.  That game should have been to determine who went to state.  Neverland and Angleton had no business playing after week 2.  SC would have stomped either squad.
[/quote]
what ever.

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

[quote name="DemDAWGS!" post="1407327" timestamp="1369266956"]
[quote author=dustoff03 link=topic=111838.msg1407323#msg1407323 date=1369266590]
[quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=111838.msg1407315#msg1407315 date=1369266203]
The only knowledge I need about my team is they opened a can of whoop a** on Vidor.  The conversation begins and ends there.  I mean, can you name any teams in Beaumont that beat SC?
[/quote]
hey, we acknowledged that loss and gave credit to SC. we didn't whine about enrollment numbers like you did with G-town which by the UIL's COUNT ACTUALLY WAS A BIT SMALLER SCHOOL.
[/quote]

There is a distinct advantage schools have during their 1st year dropping down.  We saw it with Humble as well.  The real G-Town will stand up this year.  SC was ROBBED of our birth rite.  The UiL added to the pain by setting us up against G-Town in round 2.  That game should have been to determine who went to state.  Neverland and Angleton had no business playing after week 2.  SC would have stomped either squad.
[/quote] Yall were robbed by GTown? LOL it looked like yall got flat out beaten by the final score of that game.  ;)

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

[quote name="ram0524" post="1407336" timestamp="1369267309"]
[quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=111838.msg1407327#msg1407327 date=1369266956]
[quote author=dustoff03 link=topic=111838.msg1407323#msg1407323 date=1369266590]
[quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=111838.msg1407315#msg1407315 date=1369266203]
The only knowledge I need about my team is they opened a can of whoop a** on Vidor.  The conversation begins and ends there.  I mean, can you name any teams in Beaumont that beat SC?
[/quote]
hey, we acknowledged that loss and gave credit to SC. we didn't whine about enrollment numbers like you did with G-town which by the UIL's COUNT ACTUALLY WAS A BIT SMALLER SCHOOL.
[/quote]

There is a distinct advantage schools have during their 1st year dropping down.  We saw it with Humble as well.  The real G-Town will stand up this year.  SC was ROBBED of our birth rite.  The UiL added to the pain by setting us up against G-Town in round 2.  That game should have been to determine who went to state.  Neverland and Angleton had no business playing after week 2.  SC would have stomped either squad.
[/quote]
Whatever you say, besides, SC would have got crushed by Guyer in the state championship.
[/quote] Wouldnt have even been close IMO.

[aschom78]

[quote name="Mr. Buddy Garrity" post="1407436" timestamp="1369279422"]
[quote author=ram0524 link=topic=111838.msg1407336#msg1407336 date=1369267309]
[quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=111838.msg1407327#msg1407327 date=1369266956]
[quote author=dustoff03 link=topic=111838.msg1407323#msg1407323 date=1369266590]
[quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=111838.msg1407315#msg1407315 date=1369266203]
The only knowledge I need about my team is they opened a can of whoop a** on Vidor.  The conversation begins and ends there.  I mean, can you name any teams in Beaumont that beat SC?
[/quote]
hey, we acknowledged that loss and gave credit to SC. we didn't whine about enrollment numbers like you did with G-town which by the UIL's COUNT ACTUALLY WAS A BIT SMALLER SCHOOL.
[/quote]

There is a distinct advantage schools have during their 1st year dropping down.  We saw it with Humble as well.  The real G-Town will stand up this year.  SC was ROBBED of our birth rite.  The UiL added to the pain by setting us up against G-Town in round 2.  That game should have been to determine who went to state.  Neverland and Angleton had no business playing after week 2.  SC would have stomped either squad.
[/quote]
Whatever you say, besides, SC would have got crushed by Guyer in the state championship.
[/quote] Wouldnt have even been close IMO.
[/quote]
Well no one will ever know, but I wonder about that occasionally. I think Heard would have found it a bit more challenging trying to run circles around SC's defense, just taking sideline to sideline speed into account. However, that Guyer offense could block like none I've seen in high school so maybe he could have run between the takles successfully. Aside from team speed Gtown had the best D in 4a IMO, which leads me to believe SC would have done better on offense against Guyer comparable to Gtown. Who knows, could have been closer than you think if it had happened.

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

[quote name="aschom78" post="1407449" timestamp="1369281360"]
[quote author=Mr. Buddy Garrity link=topic=111838.msg1407436#msg1407436 date=1369279422]
[quote author=ram0524 link=topic=111838.msg1407336#msg1407336 date=1369267309]
[quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=111838.msg1407327#msg1407327 date=1369266956]
[quote author=dustoff03 link=topic=111838.msg1407323#msg1407323 date=1369266590]
[quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=111838.msg1407315#msg1407315 date=1369266203]
The only knowledge I need about my team is they opened a can of whoop a** on Vidor.  The conversation begins and ends there.  I mean, can you name any teams in Beaumont that beat SC?
[/quote]
hey, we acknowledged that loss and gave credit to SC. we didn't whine about enrollment numbers like you did with G-town which by the UIL's COUNT ACTUALLY WAS A BIT SMALLER SCHOOL.
[/quote]

There is a distinct advantage schools have during their 1st year dropping down.  We saw it with Humble as well.  The real G-Town will stand up this year.  SC was ROBBED of our birth rite.  The UiL added to the pain by setting us up against G-Town in round 2.  That game should have been to determine who went to state.  Neverland and Angleton had no business playing after week 2.  SC would have stomped either squad.
[/quote]
Whatever you say, besides, SC would have got crushed by Guyer in the state championship.
[/quote] Wouldnt have even been close IMO.
[/quote]
Well no one will ever know, but I wonder about that occasionally. I think Heard would have found it a bit more challenging trying to run circles around SC's defense, just taking sideline to sideline speed into account. However, that Guyer offense could block like none I've seen in high school so maybe he could have run between the takles successfully. Aside from team speed Gtown had the best D in 4a IMO, which leads me to believe SC would have done better on offense against Guyer comparable to Gtown. Who knows, could have been closer than you think if it had happened.
[/quote]  8)

Im only basing my opinion off of what happened between SC and GTown. I dont think anyone from Region 3 was gonna beat Guyer that day.

[bronco pride]

SC gave up nearly 1000 yds offense against vidor and. GT. Guyer would have scored 60 points. The qb for gt picked sc apart and guyers qb was a stud and would have done the same. Guyer also has a top notch coach to go with lots of talent and high enrollment. Heck they played for the 5a title just a couple of years ago.

[PNGFan]

[quote name="DemDAWGS!" post="1407324" timestamp="1369266595"]
[quote author=Richard Cranium link=topic=111838.msg1407319#msg1407319 date=1369266446]
Summer Eve will be like last year a couple rounds and a cloud of dust.
[/quote]

Huh?  What team do you support?

Also your name says it all about you.  Richard a.k.a. "d_ck."  Cranium a.k.a "head."
[/quote]

I am a PNG fan. Summer Creek has a lot of talent with the recruitment from Humble High. The problem I see with SC as I watched them 3 times this past year is Discipline. When they are getting beat, they lose their composure.

[PNG1977]

[quote name="Richard Cranium" post="1407502" timestamp="1369316573"]
[quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=111838.msg1407324#msg1407324 date=1369266595]
[quote author=Richard Cranium link=topic=111838.msg1407319#msg1407319 date=1369266446]
Summer Eve will be like last year a couple rounds and a cloud of dust.
[/quote]

Huh?  What team do you support?

Also your name says it all about you.  Richard a.k.a. "d_ck."  Cranium a.k.a "head."
[/quote]

I am a PNG fan. Summer Creek has a lot of talent with the recruitment from Humble High. The problem I see with SC as I watched them 3 times this past year is Discipline. When they are getting beat, they lose their composure.
[/quote]

This is what I've been saying...+1!

[Octfeb]

[quote name="png1977" post="1407520" timestamp="1369318111"]
[quote author=Richard Cranium link=topic=111838.msg1407502#msg1407502 date=1369316573]
[quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=111838.msg1407324#msg1407324 date=1369266595]
[quote author=Richard Cranium link=topic=111838.msg1407319#msg1407319 date=1369266446]
Summer Eve will be like last year a couple rounds and a cloud of dust.
[/quote]

Huh?  What team do you support?

Also your name says it all about you.  Richard a.k.a. "d_ck."  Cranium a.k.a "head."
[/quote]

I am a PNG fan. Summer Creek has a lot of talent with the recruitment from Humble High. The problem I see with SC as I watched them 3 times this past year is Discipline. When they are getting beat, [b]they lose their composure.[/b]
[/quote]

This is what I've been saying...+1!
[/quote] They won't never admit to that. And if they do.. it's not their fault. It's the other teams and parents and coaches fault.

[cougar14]

[quote name="Richard Cranium" post="1407502" timestamp="1369316573"]
[quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=111838.msg1407324#msg1407324 date=1369266595]
[quote author=Richard Cranium link=topic=111838.msg1407319#msg1407319 date=1369266446]
Summer Eve will be like last year a couple rounds and a cloud of dust.
[/quote]

Huh?  What team do you support?

Also your name says it all about you.  Richard a.k.a. "d_ck."  Cranium a.k.a "head."
[/quote]

I am a PNG fan. Summer Creek has a lot of talent with the recruitment from Humble High. The problem I see with SC as I watched them 3 times this past year is Discipline. When they are getting beat, they lose their composure.
[/quote]You saw the Georgetown game? That's the only time they trailed all year. I'm just asking, I saw them play three times too and never saw that. Are you talking about the varsity? Vidor didn't lose composure and fought hard but once Dayton was trailing they just went ahead and laid down, throw in the arguing amongst themselves and that's what i would call losing composure. 

[bronco pride]

[quote name="cougar14" post="1407549" timestamp="1369321769"]
[quote author=Richard Cranium link=topic=111838.msg1407502#msg1407502 date=1369316573]
[quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=111838.msg1407324#msg1407324 date=1369266595]
[quote author=Richard Cranium link=topic=111838.msg1407319#msg1407319 date=1369266446]
Summer Eve will be like last year a couple rounds and a cloud of dust.
[/quote]

Huh?  What team do you support?

Also your name says it all about you.  Richard a.k.a. "d_ck."  Cranium a.k.a "head."
[/quote]

I am a PNG fan. Summer Creek has a lot of talent with the recruitment from Humble High. The problem I see with SC as I watched them 3 times this past year is Discipline. When they are getting beat, they lose their composure.
[/quote]You saw the Georgetown game? That's the only time they trailed all year. I'm just asking, I saw them play three times too and never saw that. Are you talking about the varsity? Vidor didn't lose composure and fought hard but once Dayton was trailing they just went ahead and laid down, throw in the arguing amongst themselves and that's what i would call losing composure.
[/quote]i have to agree on both of coug14's points. Sc was the first good team dayton saw all year and they rolled over dead. It reminded me of when dayton played crosby earlier in the year.

[cougar14]

[quote name="bronco pride" post="1407565" timestamp="1369322943"]
[quote author=cougar14 link=topic=111838.msg1407549#msg1407549 date=1369321769]
[quote author=Richard Cranium link=topic=111838.msg1407502#msg1407502 date=1369316573]
[quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=111838.msg1407324#msg1407324 date=1369266595]
[quote author=Richard Cranium link=topic=111838.msg1407319#msg1407319 date=1369266446]
Summer Eve will be like last year a couple rounds and a cloud of dust.
[/quote]

Huh?  What team do you support?

Also your name says it all about you.  Richard a.k.a. "d_ck."  Cranium a.k.a "head."
[/quote]

I am a PNG fan. Summer Creek has a lot of talent with the recruitment from Humble High. The problem I see with SC as I watched them 3 times this past year is Discipline. When they are getting beat, they lose their composure.
[/quote]You saw the Georgetown game? That's the only time they trailed all year. I'm just asking, I saw them play three times too and never saw that. Are you talking about the varsity? Vidor didn't lose composure and fought hard but once Dayton was trailing they just went ahead and laid down, throw in the arguing amongst themselves and that's what i would call losing composure.
[/quote]i have to agree on both of coug14's points. Sc was the first good team dayton saw all year and they rolled over dead. It reminded me of when dayton played crosby earlier in the year.
[/quote]I'll take that. At least we didn't roll over the next week too though.

[aschom78]

[quote name="cougar14" post="1407579" timestamp="1369323537"]
[quote author=bronco pride link=topic=111838.msg1407565#msg1407565 date=1369322943]
[quote author=cougar14 link=topic=111838.msg1407549#msg1407549 date=1369321769]
[quote author=Richard Cranium link=topic=111838.msg1407502#msg1407502 date=1369316573]
[quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=111838.msg1407324#msg1407324 date=1369266595]
[quote author=Richard Cranium link=topic=111838.msg1407319#msg1407319 date=1369266446]
Summer Eve will be like last year a couple rounds and a cloud of dust.
[/quote]

Huh?  What team do you support?

Also your name says it all about you.  Richard a.k.a. "d_ck."  Cranium a.k.a "head."
[/quote]

I am a PNG fan. Summer Creek has a lot of talent with the recruitment from Humble High. The problem I see with SC as I watched them 3 times this past year is Discipline. When they are getting beat, they lose their composure.
[/quote]You saw the Georgetown game? That's the only time they trailed all year. I'm just asking, I saw them play three times too and never saw that. Are you talking about the varsity? Vidor didn't lose composure and fought hard but once Dayton was trailing they just went ahead and laid down, throw in the arguing amongst themselves and that's what i would call losing composure.
[/quote]i have to agree on both of coug14's points. Sc was the first good team dayton saw all year and they rolled over dead. It reminded me of when dayton played crosby earlier in the year.
[/quote]I'll take that. At least we didn't roll over the next week too though.
[/quote]
Hmm, when SC lost to GTown I only heard good things about Gtown from the SC players and coaches. They were really impressed, and although they were disappointed about the early loss they enjoyed the challenge. The varsity football team had mature athletes for the most part, I can understand "lack of discipline" coming from the sub varsity players (part of why they aren't on varsity). I will admit the baseball team was a bit hot headed at times, so you can say what you want about them its fair game.   

[HUM398]

[quote name="aschom78" post="1407449" timestamp="1369281360"]
[quote author=Mr. Buddy Garrity link=topic=111838.msg1407436#msg1407436 date=1369279422]
[quote author=ram0524 link=topic=111838.msg1407336#msg1407336 date=1369267309]
[quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=111838.msg1407327#msg1407327 date=1369266956]
[quote author=dustoff03 link=topic=111838.msg1407323#msg1407323 date=1369266590]
[quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=111838.msg1407315#msg1407315 date=1369266203]
The only knowledge I need about my team is they opened a can of whoop a** on Vidor.  The conversation begins and ends there.  I mean, can you name any teams in Beaumont that beat SC?
[/quote]
hey, we acknowledged that loss and gave credit to SC. we didn't whine about enrollment numbers like you did with G-town which by the UIL's COUNT ACTUALLY WAS A BIT SMALLER SCHOOL.
[/quote]

There is a distinct advantage schools have during their 1st year dropping down.  We saw it with Humble as well.  The real G-Town will stand up this year.  SC was ROBBED of our birth rite.  The UiL added to the pain by setting us up against G-Town in round 2.  That game should have been to determine who went to state.  Neverland and Angleton had no business playing after week 2.  SC would have stomped either squad.
[/quote]
Whatever you say, besides, SC would have got crushed by Guyer in the state championship.
[/quote] Wouldnt have even been close IMO.
[/quote]
Well no one will ever know, but I wonder about that occasionally. I think Heard would have found it a bit more challenging trying to run circles around SC's defense, just taking sideline to sideline speed into account. However, that Guyer offense could block like none I've seen in high school so maybe he could have run between the takles successfully. Aside from team speed Gtown had the best D in 4a IMO, which leads me to believe SC would have done better on offense against Guyer comparable to Gtown. Who knows, could have been closer than you think if it had happened.
[/quote]

Totally disagree with you here.

Gtown exposed the SC defense, which was weak at the line of scrimmage and in pass coverage.    SC line play on both sides of the ball was below average to bad.  The pass defense was equally as bad.    SC succeeding against defenses that struggled to match up against the bull dawgs speed.  When they met a team that's wide outs were not only disciplined enough to block down field, but run routes....they struggled to keep them out of the endzone.    This is typical with the type of team SC has.  i have seen it dozens of times with Humble over the years.  Speed, and no technique.    They tend to put to much pressure on their LB's to create disruption because their line doesn't get the pressure required.  They end up bringing 6 sometimes 7 man blitzes leaving HUGE gaps in coverage.

You can put 11 guys on the field that will blow past you at a track meet.  But if your kids don't understand cap coverage, and you use your LB's as the disruptive force on just about ever play.... Then you are going to pay the price agains teams that are disciplined and patient enough to let the game come to them.    Most teams SC is going to shut down, because they are probably more athletic then most teams...but like a lot of Humble's previous teams....they struggle against coached up kids.    Georgetown reminded me  a lot of The Woodlands teams of the last 3-4 years.

[aschom78]

[quote name="HUM398" post="1407948" timestamp="1369371469"]
[quote author=aschom78 link=topic=111838.msg1407449#msg1407449 date=1369281360]
[quote author=Mr. Buddy Garrity link=topic=111838.msg1407436#msg1407436 date=1369279422]
[quote author=ram0524 link=topic=111838.msg1407336#msg1407336 date=1369267309]
[quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=111838.msg1407327#msg1407327 date=1369266956]
[quote author=dustoff03 link=topic=111838.msg1407323#msg1407323 date=1369266590]
[quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=111838.msg1407315#msg1407315 date=1369266203]
The only knowledge I need about my team is they opened a can of whoop a** on Vidor.  The conversation begins and ends there.  I mean, can you name any teams in Beaumont that beat SC?
[/quote]
hey, we acknowledged that loss and gave credit to SC. we didn't whine about enrollment numbers like you did with G-town which by the UIL's COUNT ACTUALLY WAS A BIT SMALLER SCHOOL.
[/quote]

There is a distinct advantage schools have during their 1st year dropping down.  We saw it with Humble as well.  The real G-Town will stand up this year.  SC was ROBBED of our birth rite.  The UiL added to the pain by setting us up against G-Town in round 2.  That game should have been to determine who went to state.  Neverland and Angleton had no business playing after week 2.  SC would have stomped either squad.
[/quote]
Whatever you say, besides, SC would have got crushed by Guyer in the state championship.
[/quote] Wouldnt have even been close IMO.
[/quote]
Well no one will ever know, but I wonder about that occasionally. I think Heard would have found it a bit more challenging trying to run circles around SC's defense, just taking sideline to sideline speed into account. However, that Guyer offense could block like none I've seen in high school so maybe he could have run between the takles successfully. Aside from team speed Gtown had the best D in 4a IMO, which leads me to believe SC would have done better on offense against Guyer comparable to Gtown. Who knows, could have been closer than you think if it had happened.
[/quote]

Totally disagree with you here.

Gtown exposed the SC defense, which was weak at the line of scrimmage and in pass coverage.    SC line play on both sides of the ball was below average to bad.  The pass defense was equally as bad.    SC succeeding against defenses that struggled to match up against the bull dawgs speed.  When they met a team that's wide outs were not only disciplined enough to block down field, but run routes....they struggled to keep them out of the endzone.    This is typical with the type of team SC has.  i have seen it dozens of times with Humble over the years.  Speed, and no technique.    They tend to put to much pressure on their LB's to create disruption because their line doesn't get the pressure required.  They end up bringing 6 sometimes 7 man blitzes leaving HUGE gaps in coverage.

You can put 11 guys on the field that will blow past you at a track meet.  But if your kids don't understand cap coverage, and you use your LB's as the disruptive force on just about ever play.... Then you are going to pay the price agains teams that are disciplined and patient enough to let the game come to them.    Most teams SC is going to shut down, because they are probably more athletic then most teams...but like a lot of Humble's previous teams....they struggle against coached up kids.    Georgetown reminded me  a lot of The Woodlands teams of the last 3-4 years.
[/quote]
Everything you just said I pretty much agree with 100%, that's why I said that Guyer probably would have been able to run over us for the most part. I still believe that Gtown outmatched all 4a schools they played man to man, except Guyer had a guy that Gtown couldn't quite keep in check. I'm sure you saw the state championship game, Gtown was dominating Guyer in the first half, then in the second half they let Heard do what he does best.