DCTF Class 5A Pre-season top 25

[OlDawg]

[quote name="songone" post="1414797" timestamp="1371725674"]
[quote author=RHBoiler link=topic=112616.msg1414764#msg1414764 date=1371694252]
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NOW! PAM... GREAT TEAM... Simple as that. DC ranked or not! If and I mean if there is ever a day PAM is classified 4A the whole complex of this board will change.  [b]PAM is head and shoulders above most 5A teams D1 & D2 [/b] and will punish the surrounding 4A teams for years to come.  I'm sorry, no other way to say it!
I say that because Manvel played a few (at the time) top level SETX teams in playoffs prior to leaving 4A being Dayton and PNG in the playoffs... and that game with PAM was a whole different animal.  No comparison between level of competition!
[/quote]Ummm...PAM can't even win 21-5A and is usually fighting for the last PO spot.  Let's just keep things in perspective. :o ;D :P

[songone]

The (2) 21-5A teams they usually lose to are ranked in the top 25 of Texas 5A teams... Now how many 5A teams are in Texas?  That still leaves plenty of teams to be better than.

[songone]

[quote name="OlDawg" post="1414801" timestamp="1371728644"]
[quote author=songone link=topic=112616.msg1414797#msg1414797 date=1371725674]
[quote author=RHBoiler link=topic=112616.msg1414764#msg1414764 date=1371694252]
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NOW! PAM... GREAT TEAM... Simple as that. DC ranked or not! If and I mean if there is ever a day PAM is classified 4A the whole complex of this board will change.  [b]PAM is head and shoulders above most 5A teams D1 & D2 [/b] and will punish the surrounding 4A teams for years to come.  I'm sorry, no other way to say it!
I say that because Manvel played a few (at the time) top level SETX teams in playoffs prior to leaving 4A being Dayton and PNG in the playoffs... and that game with PAM was a whole different animal.  No comparison between level of competition!
[/quote]Ummm...PAM can't even win 21-5A and is usually fighting for the last PO spot.  Let's just keep things in perspective. :o ;D :P
[/quote]The (2) 21-5A teams they usually lose to are ranked in the top 25 of Texas 5A teams... Now how many 5A teams are in Texas?  That still leaves plenty of teams to be better than.

[OlDawg]

[quote name="songone" post="1414804" timestamp="1371729863"]
The (2) 21-5A teams they usually lose to are ranked in the top 25 of Texas 5A teams... Now how many 5A teams are in Texas?  That still leaves plenty of teams to be better than.
[/quote]Shhhh...I'm reeling in a MBG.  ;)

[songone]

;) 10-4!

[snafu]

[quote name="OlDawg" post="1414807" timestamp="1371730580"]
[quote author=songone link=topic=112616.msg1414804#msg1414804 date=1371729863]
The (2) 21-5A teams they usually lose to are ranked in the top 25 of Texas 5A teams... Now how many 5A teams are in Texas?  That still leaves plenty of teams to be better than.
[/quote]Shhhh...I'm reeling in a MBG.  ;)
[/quote]


shoot you ain't catching that ole rascal... he may make the bobber go down... but right before you set the hook, he will bust the water and spit it at you!! LOL

[OlDawg]

[quote name="Coach Comeaux" post="1414820" timestamp="1371734113"]
[quote author=OlDawg link=topic=112616.msg1414807#msg1414807 date=1371730580]
[quote author=songone link=topic=112616.msg1414804#msg1414804 date=1371729863]
The (2) 21-5A teams they usually lose to are ranked in the top 25 of Texas 5A teams... Now how many 5A teams are in Texas?  That still leaves plenty of teams to be better than.
[/quote]Shhhh...I'm reeling in a MBG.  ;)
[/quote]


shoot you ain't catching that ole rascal... he may make the bobber go down... but right before you set the hook, he will bust the water and spit it at you!! LOL
[/quote]Darn hardhead or not even a keeper. What a waste... ;D

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

[quote name="OlDawg" post="1414801" timestamp="1371728644"]
[quote author=songone link=topic=112616.msg1414797#msg1414797 date=1371725674]
[quote author=RHBoiler link=topic=112616.msg1414764#msg1414764 date=1371694252]
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NOW! PAM... GREAT TEAM... Simple as that. DC ranked or not! If and I mean if there is ever a day PAM is classified 4A the whole complex of this board will change.  [b]PAM is head and shoulders above most 5A teams D1 & D2 [/b] and will punish the surrounding 4A teams for years to come.  I'm sorry, no other way to say it!
I say that because Manvel played a few (at the time) top level SETX teams in playoffs prior to leaving 4A being Dayton and PNG in the playoffs... and that game with PAM was a whole different animal.  No comparison between level of competition!
[/quote]Ummm...PAM can't even win 21-5A and is usually fighting for the last PO spot.  Let's just keep things in perspective. :o ;D :P
[/quote]Its been LP vs PAM for the district title the past 2 years, i see it no different this year. Im just keeping it in perspective though. Good luck.

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

[quote name="OlDawg" post="1414807" timestamp="1371730580"]
[quote author=songone link=topic=112616.msg1414804#msg1414804 date=1371729863]
The (2) 21-5A teams they usually lose to are ranked in the top 25 of Texas 5A teams... Now how many 5A teams are in Texas?  That still leaves plenty of teams to be better than.
[/quote]Shhhh...I'm reeling in a MBG.  ;)
[/quote] ::)

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

[quote name="Coach Comeaux" post="1414820" timestamp="1371734113"]
[quote author=OlDawg link=topic=112616.msg1414807#msg1414807 date=1371730580]
[quote author=songone link=topic=112616.msg1414804#msg1414804 date=1371729863]
The (2) 21-5A teams they usually lose to are ranked in the top 25 of Texas 5A teams... Now how many 5A teams are in Texas?  That still leaves plenty of teams to be better than.
[/quote]Shhhh...I'm reeling in a MBG.  ;)
[/quote]


shoot you ain't catching that ole rascal... he may make the bobber go down... but right before you set the hook, he will bust the water and spit it at you!! LOL
[/quote] ;)

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

[quote name="songone" post="1414797" timestamp="1371725674"]
[quote author=RHBoiler link=topic=112616.msg1414764#msg1414764 date=1371694252]
Manvel probably got their high rating because Coach Martin and his staff are great at developing and selling players to D1 schools! Manvel is VERY fortunate to have him as their coach. Look at what he has done the past few years. Honest question – has any school in SETX, GHA, Region 3, Texas or the whole country for that matter ever had two QBs in a single graduating class that both went on to play on D1 teams? People laugh about a two-QB system saying if you have more than one QB than you don’t have any, but Martin has made it work with two different sets of QBs, and all four have gone on to the D1 level. It’s probably that reputation that builds to a (in my mind questionably) high ranking. Of course it takes the raw talent coming in to achieve that, but coaches have to manage and develop it also.

More proof of Coach Martin’s leadership is how his oldest son has turned out. Koda is an incredible leader. Look him up on twitter. Awesome posts. Great young man!

Removing the sandbags for a moment, I heard that Martin’s younger son is a QB. Eighth grade this fall, sharing the QB role with another tough QB who is 6’1” and already doing one-handed dunks in basketball.  With Manvel likely to play sophs and a junior at QB this year and those two coming up, Manvel’s QB pipeline looks pretty solid!

The PAM / Manvel game was one of the best of the year! Two teams with a lot of talent. It came down to a couple of factors – PAM lost a stud OL in the first quarter, just like Manvel lost a stud OL in the first quarter against Aledo. That caused a lot of additional pressure on the backfield. Then two big turnovers deep in PAM territory in the 2nd quarter, one a pick-6 and the other a sack/fumble that Manvel converted a few plays later to create score spacing that PAM couldn’t recover from. Otherwise the game would have probably come down to the last possession.

I guess if Manvel got its rating from beating PAM, that's a pretty strong endorsement of PAM as well!
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GREAT POST RHBoiler!  Martin has definitely been a blessing to the Manvel program and he works well with not only the kids but his assistants, scouts, parents and the community as a whole ... just a great guy.  He loves for the program to win on and off the field as proven with how hard he works to get these kids to the next level. The D1 commits are just what many see on the surface but several of the other kids get offers from D2, D3 and JC's.  As of today, OLB Coach ED still working with a D1 commit from the 2012 state squad that has been converted to OLB a the next level... spent a whole day with this kid and they will right back at it tomorrow.  There's a lot of love in this program that trickles down from that present D1 ex-Manvel Maverick to that Freshman kid in the weight room looking on.  Kids play hard for Kirk and staff... one night you are on JV and the next week you get 15 carries on Friday night.  Freshman, Soph., Jr., Sr? doesn't matter...  Work your ass off year round, learn the plays and keep your nose clean... you'll get your chance! 
With that said, I think Manvel is ranked because most of these young kids logged major time last year.  Other than those standout D1 skill players that graduated, the others were continuously rotated.  2 of our top 4 recruits are sophomores this year.  I think we will be fine.
NOW! PAM... GREAT TEAM... Simple as that. DC ranked or not! If and I mean if there is ever a day PAM is classified 4A the whole complex of this board will change.  PAM is head and shoulders above most 5A teams D1 & D2 and will punish the surrounding 4A teams for years to come.  I'm sorry, no other way to say it!
I say that because Manvel played a few (at the time) top level SETX teams in playoffs prior to leaving 4A being Dayton and PNG in the playoffs... and that game with PAM was a whole different animal.  No comparison between level of competition!
(The PAM 4A scenario came about through a post I read somewhere about school numbers declining... not saying it was factual.)
By the way... I work in the Beaumont/PA area a lot and you guys should be proud of Harrison and the Titan Program. I noticed how many of those kids go to the next level as well.  Keep up the good work out there!
[/quote]I wouldnt want to be in 20-4A soon to be 5A, trust me, i know. I hope we stay in the district with NS, LP etc....

[OlDawg]

[quote name="Mr. Buddy Garrity" post="1414899" timestamp="1371747115"]
[quote author=OlDawg link=topic=112616.msg1414801#msg1414801 date=1371728644]
[quote author=songone link=topic=112616.msg1414797#msg1414797 date=1371725674]
[quote author=RHBoiler link=topic=112616.msg1414764#msg1414764 date=1371694252]
[/quote]
NOW! PAM... GREAT TEAM... Simple as that. DC ranked or not! If and I mean if there is ever a day PAM is classified 4A the whole complex of this board will change.  [b]PAM is head and shoulders above most 5A teams D1 & D2 [/b] and will punish the surrounding 4A teams for years to come.  I'm sorry, no other way to say it!
I say that because Manvel played a few (at the time) top level SETX teams in playoffs prior to leaving 4A being Dayton and PNG in the playoffs... and that game with PAM was a whole different animal.  No comparison between level of competition!
[/quote]Ummm...PAM can't even win 21-5A and is usually fighting for the last PO spot.  Let's just keep things in perspective. :o ;D :P
[/quote][b]Its been LP vs PAM for the district title the past 2 years[/b], i see it no different this year. Im just keeping it in perspective though. Good luck.
[/quote]Still not sure where you're getting this from. The [b]BEST[/b] PAM could've hoped for was 2011. Both teams were undefeated going into Week 10. 2012, could have claimed a 3-way share with LP and NS. I see no way PAM could have claimed an outright 21-5A title in 2012. Both cases, LP was going into PAM week undefeated in district and came out undefeated in district. Memorial Stadium is like a second home. (To their credit, in 2011, PAM got their revenge about a month later to record their only win against LP in history.)

I enjoy 21-5A as it is with 4 really competitive teams. As much as we tend to rib each other, it's a good group of solid teams who enjoy PO success at a good clip. Very solid district for the most part. Besides all that, the fans are fun.

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

Didn't say out-right.  ;)


Darn mutts, gotta break it down for em if its not about Bacon.  :P

[OlDawg]

[quote name="Mr. Buddy Garrity" post="1415151" timestamp="1371832963"]
Didn't say out-right.  ;)


Darn mutts, gotta break it down for em if its not about Bacon.  :P
[/quote]Can't use bacon right now. If you log out, you can't get back on. Don't know who is in charge to get fixed... >:(

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

[quote name="OlDawg" post="1415154" timestamp="1371833145"]
[quote author=Mr. Buddy Garrity link=topic=112616.msg1415151#msg1415151 date=1371832963]
Didn't say out-right.  ;)


Darn mutts, gotta break it down for em if its not about Bacon.  :P
[/quote]Can't use bacon right now. If you log out, you can't get back on. Don't know who is in charge to get fixed... >:(
[/quote]i never logoff of it

[OlDawg]

[quote name="Mr. Buddy Garrity" post="1415159" timestamp="1371833608"]
[quote author=OlDawg link=topic=112616.msg1415154#msg1415154 date=1371833145]
[quote author=Mr. Buddy Garrity link=topic=112616.msg1415151#msg1415151 date=1371832963]
Didn't say out-right.  ;)


Darn mutts, gotta break it down for em if its not about Bacon.  :P
[/quote]Can't use bacon right now. If you log out, you can't get back on. Don't know who is in charge to get fixed... >:(
[/quote]i never logoff of it
[/quote]I think the NSA is using my password.  :o
If you see a .5, you'll know why.

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

[quote name="OlDawg" post="1415162" timestamp="1371833870"]
[quote author=Mr. Buddy Garrity link=topic=112616.msg1415159#msg1415159 date=1371833608]
[quote author=OlDawg link=topic=112616.msg1415154#msg1415154 date=1371833145]
[quote author=Mr. Buddy Garrity link=topic=112616.msg1415151#msg1415151 date=1371832963]
Didn't say out-right.  ;)


Darn mutts, gotta break it down for em if its not about Bacon.  :P
[/quote]Can't use bacon right now. If you log out, you can't get back on. Don't know who is in charge to get fixed... >:(
[/quote]i never logoff of it
[/quote]I think the NSA is using my password.  :o
If you see a .5, you'll know why.
[/quote]wait a minute, this forum? i thought you were talking bout another one.

[OlDawg]

[quote name="Mr. Buddy Garrity" post="1415261" timestamp="1371844105"]
[quote author=OlDawg link=topic=112616.msg1415162#msg1415162 date=1371833870]
[quote author=Mr. Buddy Garrity link=topic=112616.msg1415159#msg1415159 date=1371833608]
[quote author=OlDawg link=topic=112616.msg1415154#msg1415154 date=1371833145]
[quote author=Mr. Buddy Garrity link=topic=112616.msg1415151#msg1415151 date=1371832963]
Didn't say out-right.  ;)


Darn mutts, gotta break it down for em if its not about Bacon.  :P
[/quote]Can't use bacon right now. If you log out, you can't get back on. Don't know who is in charge to get fixed... >:(
[/quote]i never logoff of it
[/quote]I think the NSA is using my password.  :o
If you see a .5, you'll know why.
[/quote]wait a minute, this forum? i thought you were talking bout another one.
[/quote]I was talking about another one.

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

[quote name="OlDawg" post="1415336" timestamp="1371858234"]
[quote author=Mr. Buddy Garrity link=topic=112616.msg1415261#msg1415261 date=1371844105]
[quote author=OlDawg link=topic=112616.msg1415162#msg1415162 date=1371833870]
[quote author=Mr. Buddy Garrity link=topic=112616.msg1415159#msg1415159 date=1371833608]
[quote author=OlDawg link=topic=112616.msg1415154#msg1415154 date=1371833145]
[quote author=Mr. Buddy Garrity link=topic=112616.msg1415151#msg1415151 date=1371832963]
Didn't say out-right.  ;)


Darn mutts, gotta break it down for em if its not about Bacon.  :P
[/quote]Can't use bacon right now. If you log out, you can't get back on. Don't know who is in charge to get fixed... >:(
[/quote]i never logoff of it
[/quote]I think the NSA is using my password.  :o
If you see a .5, you'll know why.
[/quote]wait a minute, this forum? i thought you were talking bout another one.
[/quote]I was talking about another one.
[/quote]ahhhh.  ;)

I tried logging off there and it didnt let me, i've been trying for over a month to do it even on my phone and it hasnt worked. I never have a problem on this board though  :D ;) 8)

[RHBoiler]

[quote name="OlDawg" post="1415154" timestamp="1371833145"]
[quote author=Mr. Buddy Garrity link=topic=112616.msg1415151#msg1415151 date=1371832963]
Didn't say out-right.  ;)


Darn mutts, gotta break it down for em if its not about Bacon.  :P
[/quote]Can't use bacon right now. If you log out, you can't get back on. Don't know who is in charge to get fixed... >:(
[/quote]

I'm locked out as well. Saw there is a new thread about the log-in problems on there this morning. Hopefully it will get fixed soon.

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

[quote name="RHBoiler" post="1415728" timestamp="1372095647"]
[quote author=OlDawg link=topic=112616.msg1415154#msg1415154 date=1371833145]
[quote author=Mr. Buddy Garrity link=topic=112616.msg1415151#msg1415151 date=1371832963]
Didn't say out-right.  ;)


Darn mutts, gotta break it down for em if its not about Bacon.  :P
[/quote]Can't use bacon right now. If you log out, you can't get back on. Don't know who is in charge to get fixed... >:(
[/quote]

I'm locked out as well. Saw there is a new thread about the log-in problems on there this morning. Hopefully it will get fixed soon.
[/quote]I think its downright funny if you ask me, i dont think anything like that has happened on this forum  8)