BLUEDOVE3 Posted June 30, 2013 Report Posted June 30, 2013 [quote name="Stevenash" post="1417276" timestamp="1372606350"][quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=112733.msg1417273#msg1417273 date=1372603825][quote author=Stevenash link=topic=112733.msg1417185#msg1417185 date=1372535922][quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=112733.msg1417180#msg1417180 date=1372529626][quote author=$MTC-28$ link=topic=112733.msg1417175#msg1417175 date=1372527593]Okay seriously what's with the cross country thing??[/quote] Some sort of magical powers that HJ seems to concoct every season to win in their district.[/quote]Seriously? Da Dove disapproves of cross country training for basketball players as not being sufficiently sport specific. Different things work for different people/different teams. Take a look at LeBrons physique- The great majority of what you see is attributable to yoga. On the other hand, I would suspect that Larry Bird, Oliver Miller, Boris Diaw and Big Baby Davis( to name a few) had much of a training regimen and still managed to do well in the NBA.[/quote]Please stop comparing HJ to the NBA. Thanks!! ;)[/quote]NO comparison of HJ to NBA. The obvious point is there are many different ways to skin a cat.[/quote] Yeah, but you keep comparing cats to elephants.
Let’sGetAlong Posted June 30, 2013 Report Posted June 30, 2013 Nothing wrong with basketball players running cross country.
stevenash Posted June 30, 2013 Report Posted June 30, 2013 [quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1417306" timestamp="1372615845"][quote author=Stevenash link=topic=112733.msg1417276#msg1417276 date=1372606350][quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=112733.msg1417273#msg1417273 date=1372603825][quote author=Stevenash link=topic=112733.msg1417185#msg1417185 date=1372535922][quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=112733.msg1417180#msg1417180 date=1372529626][quote author=$MTC-28$ link=topic=112733.msg1417175#msg1417175 date=1372527593]Okay seriously what's with the cross country thing??[/quote] Some sort of magical powers that HJ seems to concoct every season to win in their district.[/quote]Seriously? Da Dove disapproves of cross country training for basketball players as not being sufficiently sport specific. Different things work for different people/different teams. Take a look at LeBrons physique- The great majority of what you see is attributable to yoga. On the other hand, I would suspect that Larry Bird, Oliver Miller, Boris Diaw and Big Baby Davis( to name a few) had much of a training regimen and still managed to do well in the NBA.[/quote]Please stop comparing HJ to the NBA. Thanks!! ;)[/quote]NO comparison of HJ to NBA. The obvious point is there are many different ways to skin a cat.[/quote] Yeah, but you keep comparing cats to elephants.[/quote]Just let me keep on being the one who is wrong. For being wrong all of the time, the kids have done fairly well. I know this is tough to swallow but I am still one of those old school guys ( you always say you are too) that believes the coaching staff is better prepared to evaluate and deal with a team than a poster on a message board.
stevenash Posted June 30, 2013 Report Posted June 30, 2013 Dang cross country did it again: SBG with Zjori Bosha and Sammy Mitchell (from cross country running HJ) defeated the Ozen squad today. Mr. Bosha had 19. Keep running, Zjori.
BLUEDOVE3 Posted June 30, 2013 Report Posted June 30, 2013 [quote name="Stevenash" post="1417322" timestamp="1372627943"]Dang cross country did it again: SBG with Zjori Bosha and Sammy Mitchell (from cross country running HJ) defeated the Ozen squad today. Mr. Bosha had 19. Keep running, Zjori.[/quote] Typical, kick a man down when he's already on the ground........ sheez!!!
stevenash Posted June 30, 2013 Report Posted June 30, 2013 [quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1417337" timestamp="1372634205"][quote author=Stevenash link=topic=112733.msg1417322#msg1417322 date=1372627943]Dang cross country did it again: SBG with Zjori Bosha and Sammy Mitchell (from cross country running HJ) defeated the Ozen squad today. Mr. Bosha had 19. Keep running, Zjori.[/quote] Typical, kick a man down when he's already on the ground........ sheez!!![/quote]I would never do that but I will illustrate,once again, there are multiple ways to reach ones objective(s)
BLUEDOVE3 Posted July 1, 2013 Report Posted July 1, 2013 Yes, I do agree about the *multiple ways.* But, in Bosha's example from yesterday, the kid has been working on his ball handling and creating space from the defender. You don't learn that running cross country. You learn this in *DA GYM.* ;) ;) ;) ;)
stevenash Posted July 1, 2013 Report Posted July 1, 2013 [quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1417372" timestamp="1372684196"]Yes, I do agree about the *multiple ways.* But, in Bosha's example from yesterday, the kid has been working on his ball handling and creating space from the defender. You don't learn that running cross country. You learn this in *DA GYM.* ;) ;) ;) ;)[/quote]Of course he did. At the same time, when those skills become critical late in the game or perhaps even overtime, it will benefit him more to have been in the gym [b]and[/b] ran cross country.
BLUEDOVE3 Posted July 1, 2013 Report Posted July 1, 2013 [quote name="Stevenash" post="1417379" timestamp="1372685818"][quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=112733.msg1417372#msg1417372 date=1372684196]Yes, I do agree about the *multiple ways.* But, in Bosha's example from yesterday, the kid has been working on his ball handling and creating space from the defender. You don't learn that running cross country. You learn this in *DA GYM.* ;) ;) ;) ;)[/quote]Of course he did. At the same time, when those skills become critical late in the game or perhaps even overtime, it will benefit him more to have been in the gym [b]and[/b] ran cross country.[/quote] Nah, the coach will call a timeout and give him a 2 minute breather. ::)
BLUEDOVE3 Posted July 1, 2013 Report Posted July 1, 2013 After speaking with one of the HJ (will go nameless) players yesterday, I didn't realize he had another year to play. I am now predicting HJ will be okay this year. For those of [s]us [/s]...errrr you who have been thinking their program is about to finally go down will have to wait once again. Again, HJ will be okay.
stevenash Posted July 1, 2013 Report Posted July 1, 2013 [quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1417415" timestamp="1372693454"]After speaking with one of the HJ (will go nameless) players yesterday, I didn't realize he had another year to play. I am now predicting HJ will be okay this year. For those of [s]us [/s]...errrr you who have been thinking their program is about to finally go down will have to wait once again. Again, HJ will be okay.[/quote]Really? In spite of wrong off season conditioning programs and the weak schedule?
stevenash Posted July 1, 2013 Report Posted July 1, 2013 [quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1417398" timestamp="1372691427"][quote author=Stevenash link=topic=112733.msg1417379#msg1417379 date=1372685818][quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=112733.msg1417372#msg1417372 date=1372684196]Yes, I do agree about the *multiple ways.* But, in Bosha's example from yesterday, the kid has been working on his ball handling and creating space from the defender. You don't learn that running cross country. You learn this in *DA GYM.* ;) ;) ;) ;)[/quote]Of course he did. At the same time, when those skills become critical late in the game or perhaps even overtime, it will benefit him more to have been in the gym [b]and[/b] ran cross country.[/quote] Nah, the coach will call a timeout and give him a 2 minute breather. ::)[/quote]Tons of circumstances where timeout cannot or will not be taken.
stevenash Posted July 1, 2013 Report Posted July 1, 2013 [quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1417372" timestamp="1372684196"]Yes, I do agree about the *multiple ways.* But, in Bosha's example from yesterday, the kid has been working on his ball handling and creating space from the defender. You don't learn that running cross country. You learn this in *DA GYM.* ;) ;) ;) ;)[/quote]By the way, dove. Bosha is a lot better than that for which he is getting credit in this area.
BLUEDOVE3 Posted July 1, 2013 Report Posted July 1, 2013 [quote name="Stevenash" post="1417421" timestamp="1372694241"][quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=112733.msg1417415#msg1417415 date=1372693454]After speaking with one of the HJ (will go nameless) players yesterday, I didn't realize he had another year to play. I am now predicting HJ will be okay this year. For those of [s]us [/s]...errrr you who have been thinking their program is about to finally go down will have to wait once again. Again, HJ will be okay.[/quote]Really? In spite of wrong off season conditioning programs and the weak schedule?[/quote] Yes, in spite of all dat!!
BLUEDOVE3 Posted July 1, 2013 Report Posted July 1, 2013 [quote name="Stevenash" post="1417422" timestamp="1372694266"][quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=112733.msg1417398#msg1417398 date=1372691427][quote author=Stevenash link=topic=112733.msg1417379#msg1417379 date=1372685818][quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=112733.msg1417372#msg1417372 date=1372684196]Yes, I do agree about the *multiple ways.* But, in Bosha's example from yesterday, the kid has been working on his ball handling and creating space from the defender. You don't learn that running cross country. You learn this in *DA GYM.* ;) ;) ;) ;)[/quote]Of course he did. At the same time, when those skills become critical late in the game or perhaps even overtime, it will benefit him more to have been in the gym [b]and[/b] ran cross country.[/quote] Nah, the coach will call a timeout and give him a 2 minute breather. ::)[/quote]Tons of circumstances where timeout cannot or will not be taken.[/quote] Tons of times to sub out ::)
BLUEDOVE3 Posted July 1, 2013 Report Posted July 1, 2013 [quote name="Stevenash" post="1417423" timestamp="1372694405"][quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=112733.msg1417372#msg1417372 date=1372684196]Yes, I do agree about the *multiple ways.* But, in Bosha's example from yesterday, the kid has been working on his ball handling and creating space from the defender. You don't learn that running cross country. You learn this in *DA GYM.* ;) ;) ;) ;)[/quote]By the way, dove. Bosha is a lot better than that for which he is getting credit in this area.[/quote] Care to explain? Not getting your meaning.
stevenash Posted July 1, 2013 Report Posted July 1, 2013 [quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1417468" timestamp="1372699306"][quote author=Stevenash link=topic=112733.msg1417423#msg1417423 date=1372694405][quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=112733.msg1417372#msg1417372 date=1372684196]Yes, I do agree about the *multiple ways.* But, in Bosha's example from yesterday, the kid has been working on his ball handling and creating space from the defender. You don't learn that running cross country. You learn this in *DA GYM.* ;) ;) ;) ;)[/quote]When top players in area are discussed (including on this board) he is rarely much of the discussion and I am stating that he very much belongs in the discussionBy the way, dove. Bosha is a lot better than that for which he is getting credit in this area.[/quote] Care to explain? Not getting your meaning.[/quote]
BLUEDOVE3 Posted July 1, 2013 Report Posted July 1, 2013 [quote name="Stevenash" post="1417472" timestamp="1372699761"][quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=112733.msg1417468#msg1417468 date=1372699306][quote author=Stevenash link=topic=112733.msg1417423#msg1417423 date=1372694405][quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=112733.msg1417372#msg1417372 date=1372684196]Yes, I do agree about the *multiple ways.* But, in Bosha's example from yesterday, the kid has been working on his ball handling and creating space from the defender. You don't learn that running cross country. You learn this in *DA GYM.* ;) ;) ;) ;)[/quote]When top players in area are discussed (including on this board) he is rarely much of the discussion and I am stating that he very much belongs in the discussionBy the way, dove. Bosha is a lot better than that for which he is getting credit in this area.[/quote] Care to explain? Not getting your meaning.[/quote][/quote]Ohhhhh!! Yeah, you make a valid point. I think this is his time *this year.* You can tell the kid has put in a lot of work. I like to see that in players.
AggiesAreWe Posted July 1, 2013 Report Posted July 1, 2013 Nash, in your opinion, who is the better player, Zjori Bosha or Jordan Hunter?
BLUEDOVE3 Posted July 1, 2013 Report Posted July 1, 2013 [quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1417487" timestamp="1372701283"]Nash, in your opinion, who is the better player, Zjori Bosha or Jordan Hunter?[/quote]You can't really judge the two. (1) They play in different systems in high school
stevenash Posted July 1, 2013 Report Posted July 1, 2013 [quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1417487" timestamp="1372701283"]Nash, in your opinion, who is the better player, Zjori Bosha or Jordan Hunter?[/quote]Honestly, the only time I ever saw Jordan play as a high school player was last year when Ozen scrimmaged at HJ in pre season play. He was plenty good then as a sophomore. I would imagine he has improved considerably since then. Therefore, I can't make a legitimate comparison ( not to mention the difficulty in keeping personal bias out of it) Based on what the colleges are doing, it would appear that Jordan has quite a bit more appeal. But, then again, Hondo Webb had more appeal to Lamar than Shawn Prudhomme did and that was very quickly proven to be a judgement error.
BLUEDOVE3 Posted July 2, 2013 Report Posted July 2, 2013 As much as I hate to admit it, HJ will do good in district this year and once again make the playoffs :o ::) . NOW!!! When they get to 2nd round playoffs ( depending on when they face the mighty mighty Jack Yates Lions- representing 3rd Ward) it will once again be a similar conclusion ;D
DXTR Posted July 2, 2013 Report Posted July 2, 2013 [quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1417680" timestamp="1372778548"]As much as I hate to admit it, HJ will do good in district this year and once again make the playoffs :o ::) . NOW!!! When they get to 2nd round playoffs ( depending on when they face the mighty mighty Jack Yates Lions- representing 3rd Ward) it will once again be a similar conclusion ;D[/quote]Don't they represent a lot more than just the 3rd Ward? ;D
BLUEDOVE3 Posted July 2, 2013 Report Posted July 2, 2013 [quote name="DXTR" post="1417690" timestamp="1372780216"][quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=112733.msg1417680#msg1417680 date=1372778548]As much as I hate to admit it, HJ will do good in district this year and once again make the playoffs :o ::) . NOW!!! When they get to 2nd round playoffs ( depending on when they face the mighty mighty Jack Yates Lions- representing 3rd Ward) it will once again be a similar conclusion ;D[/quote]Don't they represent a lot more than just the 3rd Ward? ;D[/quote] >:( You weren't suppose to advertise this all over the forum. Now Nash is gonna come in with his NBA analysis from 50 years ago. ;)
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