Question about ReAlignment

[snafu]

I thought I seen it on a post but just can't seem to remember which one...

Does anyone have the projected alignment cutoff #'s for the classifications...

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

Highland Park +1 lol

[AggiesAreWe]

I predict these to be the numbers for each classification:

6A (what is now 5A)    2150 & up

5A (what is now 4A)    1050-2149

4A (what is now 3A)      450-1049

3A (what is now 2A)      210-449

2A & 1A will determine on how many schools play 6 man.

[AggiesAreWe]

The 6A bottom number could be less, maybe 2100, not 2150.

[snafu]

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1426605" timestamp="1377289477"]
I predict these to be the numbers for each classification:

6A (what is now 5A)    2150 & up

5A (what is now 4A)    1050-2149

4A (what is now 3A)      450-1049

3A (what is now 2A)      210-449

2A & 1A will determine on how many schools play 6 man.
[/quote]


Conference Cutoff Numbers
2012-2013 & 2013-2014
5A 2090 & up
4A 1005 to 2089
3A 450 to 1004
2A 200 to 449
1A 199 & below

99.9 & below Enrollment cutoff for 6-man football and for
basketball and spring meet for large and small
schools
Division I and Division II Break Numbers
for 2A, 1A 11-Man and 1A 6-Man Football:
2A 297.5
1A 11-Man 150.5
1A 6-Man 53.5

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1426605" timestamp="1377289477"]
I predict these to be the numbers for each classification:

6A (what is now 5A)    2150 & up

5A (what is now 4A)    1050-2149

4A (what is now 3A)      450-1049

3A (what is now 2A)      210-449

2A & 1A will determine on how many schools play 6 man.
[/quote]if you right thats gonna create a mess in West Texas and part of East Texas.

[AggiesAreWe]

Because UIL wants to enlarge the amount of schools in 4A (now 3A) because of that classification going to split divisions, I see the bottom numbers of the two top classes having to move up some to help with that issue.

[snafu]

But they will make considerations for some due to economical impact of swapping divisions....

[robanadana]

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1426607" timestamp="1377289621"]
The 6A bottom number could be less, maybe 2100, not 2150.
[/quote]

Which ever number puts Summer Creek into 6A so they will shut up.

[snafu]

[quote name="robanadana" post="1426626" timestamp="1377292141"]
[quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=113498.msg1426607#msg1426607 date=1377289621]
The 6A bottom number could be less, maybe 2100, not 2150.
[/quote]

Which ever number puts Summer Creek into 6A so they will shut up.
[/quote]

you won't shut them up that way... because they will always have the " well we had to move to 6A to get beat during district...."

[b]19-4A is gonna have to beat em down...[/b]

1 thing SC is praying for is to get out of 19-4A before they lose this "initial" talent that came running from all other schools to start this one... after this group runs through it will be a middle of the road team at best in 19-4A ... unless of course the "recruiting" continues...


Ok let the hate mail begin... but i am just calling it like i see it...

[robanadana]

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="1426605" timestamp="1377289477"]
I predict these to be the numbers for each classification:

6A (what is now 5A)    2150 & up

5A (what is now 4A)    1050-2149

4A (what is now 3A)      450-1049

3A (what is now 2A)      210-449

2A & 1A will determine on how many schools play 6 man.
[/quote]

If these are the numbers I believe 20-4A would stay the same. Lumberton is growing too fast to drop down a division.

[navydawg31]

could by any chance 19-4a lose anyone else beside SC in that district?

[no-look]

Any idea on the 4A numbers between div. 1 and 2?

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

[quote name="ATX31" post="1426650" timestamp="1377297319"]
could by any chance 19-4a lose anyone else beside SC in that district?
[/quote]nope

[aschom78]

[quote name="Coach Comeaux" post="1426631" timestamp="1377292870"]
[quote author=robanadana link=topic=113498.msg1426626#msg1426626 date=1377292141]
[quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=113498.msg1426607#msg1426607 date=1377289621]
The 6A bottom number could be less, maybe 2100, not 2150.
[/quote]

Which ever number puts Summer Creek into 6A so they will shut up.
[/quote]

you won't shut them up that way... because they will always have the " well we had to move to 6A to get beat during district...."

[b]19-4A is gonna have to beat em down...[/b]

1 thing SC is praying for is to get out of 19-4A before they lose this "initial" talent that came running from all other schools to start this one... after this group runs through it will be a middle of the road team at best in 19-4A ... unless of course the "recruiting" continues...


Ok let the hate mail begin... but i am just calling it like i see it...
[/quote]
"Initial Talent" and "Recruiting". That's a bit harsh.

[dayton1092]

[quote name="aschom78" post="1426682" timestamp="1377306334"]
[quote author=Coach Comeaux link=topic=113498.msg1426631#msg1426631 date=1377292870]
[quote author=robanadana link=topic=113498.msg1426626#msg1426626 date=1377292141]
[quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=113498.msg1426607#msg1426607 date=1377289621]
The 6A bottom number could be less, maybe 2100, not 2150.
[/quote]

Which ever number puts Summer Creek into 6A so they will shut up.
[/quote]

you won't shut them up that way... because they will always have the " well we had to move to 6A to get beat during district...."

[b]19-4A is gonna have to beat em down...[/b]

1 thing SC is praying for is to get out of 19-4A before they lose this "initial" talent that came running from all other schools to start this one... after this group runs through it will be a middle of the road team at best in 19-4A ... unless of course the "recruiting" continues...


Ok let the hate mail begin... but i am just calling it like i see it...
[/quote]
"Initial Talent" and "Recruiting". That's a bit harsh.
[/quote]

But true!!!! I think if summer creek stays in 19-4a they have maybe one more year of winning. And then after that they will be lucky to beat their brother school humble.

[aschom78]

[quote name="dayton1092" post="1426688" timestamp="1377307438"]
[quote author=aschom78 link=topic=113498.msg1426682#msg1426682 date=1377306334]
[quote author=Coach Comeaux link=topic=113498.msg1426631#msg1426631 date=1377292870]
[quote author=robanadana link=topic=113498.msg1426626#msg1426626 date=1377292141]
[quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=113498.msg1426607#msg1426607 date=1377289621]
The 6A bottom number could be less, maybe 2100, not 2150.
[/quote]

Which ever number puts Summer Creek into 6A so they will shut up.
[/quote]

you won't shut them up that way... because they will always have the " well we had to move to 6A to get beat during district...."

[b]19-4A is gonna have to beat em down...[/b]

1 thing SC is praying for is to get out of 19-4A before they lose this "initial" talent that came running from all other schools to start this one... after this group runs through it will be a middle of the road team at best in 19-4A ... unless of course the "recruiting" continues...


Ok let the hate mail begin... but i am just calling it like i see it...
[/quote]
"Initial Talent" and "Recruiting". That's a bit harsh.
[/quote]

But true!!!! I think if summer creek stays in 19-4a they have maybe one more year of winning. And then after that they will be lucky to beat their brother school humble.
[/quote]
What makes you or anyone else believe SC recruits? Can't a young team have a little success? Is that too hard to accept? I mean I know a few of its fans my be annoying but that's no reason to think badly of the team.

[snafu]

[quote name="aschom78" post="1426714" timestamp="1377310407"]
[quote author=dayton1092 link=topic=113498.msg1426688#msg1426688 date=1377307438]
[quote author=aschom78 link=topic=113498.msg1426682#msg1426682 date=1377306334]
[quote author=Coach Comeaux link=topic=113498.msg1426631#msg1426631 date=1377292870]
[quote author=robanadana link=topic=113498.msg1426626#msg1426626 date=1377292141]
[quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=113498.msg1426607#msg1426607 date=1377289621]
The 6A bottom number could be less, maybe 2100, not 2150.
[/quote]

Which ever number puts Summer Creek into 6A so they will shut up.
[/quote]

you won't shut them up that way... because they will always have the " well we had to move to 6A to get beat during district...."

[b]19-4A is gonna have to beat em down...[/b]

1 thing SC is praying for is to get out of 19-4A before they lose this "initial" talent that came running from all other schools to start this one... after this group runs through it will be a middle of the road team at best in 19-4A ... unless of course the "recruiting" continues...


Ok let the hate mail begin... but i am just calling it like i see it...
[/quote]
"Initial Talent" and "Recruiting". That's a bit harsh.
[/quote]

But true!!!! I think if summer creek stays in 19-4a they have maybe one more year of winning. And then after that they will be lucky to beat their brother school humble.
[/quote]
What makes you or anyone else believe SC recruits? Can't a young team have a little success? Is that too hard to accept? I mean I know a few of its fans my be annoying but that's no reason to think badly of the team.
[/quote]

Any HS that doesn't have a dedicated feeder system, has to do a little recruiting to "encourage" athletes to attend their HS instead of another HS inside the same ISD....

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

[quote name="Coach Comeaux" post="1427058" timestamp="1377379152"]
[quote author=aschom78 link=topic=113498.msg1426714#msg1426714 date=1377310407]
[quote author=dayton1092 link=topic=113498.msg1426688#msg1426688 date=1377307438]
[quote author=aschom78 link=topic=113498.msg1426682#msg1426682 date=1377306334]
[quote author=Coach Comeaux link=topic=113498.msg1426631#msg1426631 date=1377292870]
[quote author=robanadana link=topic=113498.msg1426626#msg1426626 date=1377292141]
[quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=113498.msg1426607#msg1426607 date=1377289621]
The 6A bottom number could be less, maybe 2100, not 2150.
[/quote]

Which ever number puts Summer Creek into 6A so they will shut up.
[/quote]

you won't shut them up that way... because they will always have the " well we had to move to 6A to get beat during district...."

[b]19-4A is gonna have to beat em down...[/b]

1 thing SC is praying for is to get out of 19-4A before they lose this "initial" talent that came running from all other schools to start this one... after this group runs through it will be a middle of the road team at best in 19-4A ... unless of course the "recruiting" continues...


Ok let the hate mail begin... but i am just calling it like i see it...
[/quote]
"Initial Talent" and "Recruiting". That's a bit harsh.
[/quote]

But true!!!! I think if summer creek stays in 19-4a they have maybe one more year of winning. And then after that they will be lucky to beat their brother school humble.
[/quote]
What makes you or anyone else believe SC recruits? Can't a young team have a little success? Is that too hard to accept? I mean I know a few of its fans my be annoying but that's no reason to think badly of the team.
[/quote]

Any HS that doesn't have a dedicated feeder system, has to do a little recruiting to "encourage" athletes to attend their HS instead of another HS inside the same ISD....
[/quote]welp, that sounds like one area ISD around here, but they actually have 2-3 feeder schools.  :-X

[aschom78]

[quote name="Coach Comeaux" post="1427058" timestamp="1377379152"]
[quote author=aschom78 link=topic=113498.msg1426714#msg1426714 date=1377310407]
[quote author=dayton1092 link=topic=113498.msg1426688#msg1426688 date=1377307438]
[quote author=aschom78 link=topic=113498.msg1426682#msg1426682 date=1377306334]
[quote author=Coach Comeaux link=topic=113498.msg1426631#msg1426631 date=1377292870]
[quote author=robanadana link=topic=113498.msg1426626#msg1426626 date=1377292141]
[quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=113498.msg1426607#msg1426607 date=1377289621]
The 6A bottom number could be less, maybe 2100, not 2150.
[/quote]

Which ever number puts Summer Creek into 6A so they will shut up.
[/quote]

you won't shut them up that way... because they will always have the " well we had to move to 6A to get beat during district...."

[b]19-4A is gonna have to beat em down...[/b]

1 thing SC is praying for is to get out of 19-4A before they lose this "initial" talent that came running from all other schools to start this one... after this group runs through it will be a middle of the road team at best in 19-4A ... unless of course the "recruiting" continues...


Ok let the hate mail begin... but i am just calling it like i see it...
[/quote]
"Initial Talent" and "Recruiting". That's a bit harsh.
[/quote]

But true!!!! I think if summer creek stays in 19-4a they have maybe one more year of winning. And then after that they will be lucky to beat their brother school humble.
[/quote]
What makes you or anyone else believe SC recruits? Can't a young team have a little success? Is that too hard to accept? I mean I know a few of its fans my be annoying but that's no reason to think badly of the team.
[/quote]

Any HS that doesn't have a dedicated feeder system, has to do a little recruiting to "encourage" athletes to attend their HS instead of another HS inside the same ISD....
[/quote]
Could you explain what you mean by a dedicated feeder system? You mean like only one junior high feeding to only one high school?

[snafu]

[quote name="aschom78" post="1427154" timestamp="1377389559"]
[quote author=Coach Comeaux link=topic=113498.msg1427058#msg1427058 date=1377379152]
[quote author=aschom78 link=topic=113498.msg1426714#msg1426714 date=1377310407]
[quote author=dayton1092 link=topic=113498.msg1426688#msg1426688 date=1377307438]
[quote author=aschom78 link=topic=113498.msg1426682#msg1426682 date=1377306334]
[quote author=Coach Comeaux link=topic=113498.msg1426631#msg1426631 date=1377292870]
[quote author=robanadana link=topic=113498.msg1426626#msg1426626 date=1377292141]
[quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=113498.msg1426607#msg1426607 date=1377289621]
The 6A bottom number could be less, maybe 2100, not 2150.
[/quote]

Which ever number puts Summer Creek into 6A so they will shut up.
[/quote]

you won't shut them up that way... because they will always have the " well we had to move to 6A to get beat during district...."

[b]19-4A is gonna have to beat em down...[/b]

1 thing SC is praying for is to get out of 19-4A before they lose this "initial" talent that came running from all other schools to start this one... after this group runs through it will be a middle of the road team at best in 19-4A ... unless of course the "recruiting" continues...


Ok let the hate mail begin... but i am just calling it like i see it...
[/quote]
"Initial Talent" and "Recruiting". That's a bit harsh.
[/quote]

But true!!!! I think if summer creek stays in 19-4a they have maybe one more year of winning. And then after that they will be lucky to beat their brother school humble.
[/quote]
What makes you or anyone else believe SC recruits? Can't a young team have a little success? Is that too hard to accept? I mean I know a few of its fans my be annoying but that's no reason to think badly of the team.
[/quote]

Any HS that doesn't have a dedicated feeder system, has to do a little recruiting to "encourage" athletes to attend their HS instead of another HS inside the same ISD....
[/quote]
Could you explain what you mean by a dedicated feeder system? You mean like only one junior high feeding to only one high school?
[/quote]

Dedicated feeder system is when you have one or several Junior High's/Middle Schools in a school district that have clear lines of what high school you have to go to...

When you can transfer across an ISD to a HS of your choice it has the potential to create recruiting. In another thread it was brought up and was posted that in the Humble school district you could transfer to any HS ... that leads to recruitment... and I am not talking about buying mom a new house... or dad a new truck... but coaches or current athletes encouraging kids headed for high school to choose one over another because they were recruited/encouraged.... what ever spin you want to put on it...

It has been said by a few of the SC posters that the main reason all your skill players you have is because it was a new high school and all the talent flocked to one spot... That happen by chance? or did someone do a little talking to get certain kids to one school ?

SC has a Juggernaut of a football team... no one can deny that... but the only way that continues to happen year in and year out is for all talent in Humble ISD to end up at SC each year...

and as always this is my opinion... not smearing anyone or accusing.. just the way i see it..

[aschom78]

[quote name="Coach Comeaux" post="1427311" timestamp="1377410091"]
[quote author=aschom78 link=topic=113498.msg1427154#msg1427154 date=1377389559]
[quote author=Coach Comeaux link=topic=113498.msg1427058#msg1427058 date=1377379152]
[quote author=aschom78 link=topic=113498.msg1426714#msg1426714 date=1377310407]
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[quote author=aschom78 link=topic=113498.msg1426682#msg1426682 date=1377306334]
[quote author=Coach Comeaux link=topic=113498.msg1426631#msg1426631 date=1377292870]
[quote author=robanadana link=topic=113498.msg1426626#msg1426626 date=1377292141]
[quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=113498.msg1426607#msg1426607 date=1377289621]
The 6A bottom number could be less, maybe 2100, not 2150.
[/quote]

Which ever number puts Summer Creek into 6A so they will shut up.
[/quote]

you won't shut them up that way... because they will always have the " well we had to move to 6A to get beat during district...."

[b]19-4A is gonna have to beat em down...[/b]

1 thing SC is praying for is to get out of 19-4A before they lose this "initial" talent that came running from all other schools to start this one... after this group runs through it will be a middle of the road team at best in 19-4A ... unless of course the "recruiting" continues...


Ok let the hate mail begin... but i am just calling it like i see it...
[/quote]
"Initial Talent" and "Recruiting". That's a bit harsh.
[/quote]

But true!!!! I think if summer creek stays in 19-4a they have maybe one more year of winning. And then after that they will be lucky to beat their brother school humble.
[/quote]
What makes you or anyone else believe SC recruits? Can't a young team have a little success? Is that too hard to accept? I mean I know a few of its fans my be annoying but that's no reason to think badly of the team.
[/quote]

Any HS that doesn't have a dedicated feeder system, has to do a little recruiting to "encourage" athletes to attend their HS instead of another HS inside the same ISD....
[/quote]
Could you explain what you mean by a dedicated feeder system? You mean like only one junior high feeding to only one high school?
[/quote]

Dedicated feeder system is when you have one or several Junior High's/Middle Schools in a school district that have clear lines of what high school you have to go to...

When you can transfer across an ISD to a HS of your choice it has the potential to create recruiting. In another thread it was brought up and was posted that in the Humble school district you could transfer to any HS ... that leads to recruitment... and I am not talking about buying mom a new house... or dad a new truck... but coaches or current athletes encouraging kids headed for high school to choose one over another because they were recruited/encouraged.... what ever spin you want to put on it...

It has been said by a few of the SC posters that the main reason all your skill players you have is because it was a new high school and all the talent flocked to one spot... That happen by chance? or did someone do a little talking to get certain kids to one school ?

SC has a Juggernaut of a football team... no one can deny that... but the only way that continues to happen year in and year out is for all talent in Humble ISD to end up at SC each year...

and as always this is my opinion... not smearing anyone or accusing.. just the way i see it..
[/quote]
Ok, thanks for clarifying. I think I may have mentioned this in another thread some time ago, but in the thirteen years I was a student in Humble isd school choice was extremely limited. The only time I can think of where convincing student athletes to go to a particular school was possible was the year Humble high received an "Unacceptable" rating by the TEA, allowing students who were zoned there to attend another school in the district (I think it was either 2009 or 2010, but don't quote me on that). I knew a handful of students at SC that transferred from humble because they wanted a more stable learning environment. At the time, if a student was only worried about athletics it would have made more sense to stay at Humble because they were very competitive at sports where SC was struggling and none of the experts expected SC to become competitive any time soon. Atascocita was the same way when they were starting up, and I'm sure they didn't have a mass migration of top athletes in Humble going there because in the 7 years they have been playing varsity football they have only had 2 winning seasons. I guess one could argue they were the hot ticket for baseball, but how would the athletes know that before playing a single game there?

We are all entitled to our opinions here, but from my perspective it just doesn't seem to add up. I mean during my sophomore and junior years at SC we were practically invisible in the eyes of the students from the other high schools in Humble. The ones that did acknowledge us thought we were a joke of a school, thinking we were "Dumb" and "Ghetto". Why would student athletes think differently?

[Justafan72]

Talk amongst kids is a great recruiting tool.Knowing Aaron Sharp will be your QB the next 4 years is a very convincing recruiting incentive.If you are one of the awesome receivers SC has had these last three years,who would you want throwing the ball your way? WHERE would you go if you had a choice ? We all know how this team is so good,but it will play out soon and Where will the SC posters be?