PhatMack19 Posted December 18, 2014 Author Report Posted December 18, 2014 The players under Mack had become soft and entitled. That happens with many 5 star recruits. Everything is given to them and there are no consequences for their actions. They have been treated like kings during the recruiting period and many did not put in the effort once they got on campus. It's the coaches responsibility to squash that mentality and coach them up. THAT was not happening at UT for the last 4 years. MAck had turned into a grandfather figure and not a father figure Do you have any data that backs up your claim, or are you just throwing stuff up against the wall and seeing what sticks? There are multiple studies that prove that the higher the star ranking, the more likely the player is to play on Sunday's. When your coach can't get these highly ranked players then your writers such as Fat Ketch and Chimp have to try to change the narrative and say that 3 stars work harder. They did a good job convincing you, so keep sending them your $9.95 each month. When you add to that UT's inability to recruit and develop the QB position it amounts to "falling apart". Hell, if Swoops was at all consistent, that defense this year earned 3 or 4 more wins (K State, OU, BYU, TCU). You just can't win with your offense and special teams giving up 14 points in crucial games. Texas lost these games by 23, 5, 34, & 38 points respectively. I'm not sure exactly how the defense earned a win in these games. A&M lost 59-0 to Bama, but they would have won if the offense would have scored 60...... Quote
Peppermint Patty Posted December 18, 2014 Report Posted December 18, 2014 Do you have any data that backs up your claim, or are you just throwing stuff up against the wall and seeing what sticks? There are multiple studies that prove that the higher the star ranking, the more likely the player is to play on Sunday's. When your coach can't get these highly ranked players then your writers such as Fat Ketch and Chimp have to try to change the narrative and say that 3 stars work harder. They did a good job convincing you, so keep sending them your $9.95 each month. Texas lost these games by 23, 5, 34, & 38 points respectively. I'm not sure exactly how the defense earned a win in these games. A&M lost 59-0 to Bama, but they would have won if the offense would have scored 60...... Data? What data? I guess I could go pull up all the recruiting rankings for the past several years and it would prove my point. You can see the results on the field. Bama recruits and coaches their 5 start recuits. UT was not coaching them. The won-loss record proved that out or he would still be at UT. As an aggie, you know that even if your offense if scoring quickly, putting your defense on the field for the majority of the game can lead to bad results. Add to that a Pick 6 here and Pick 6 there, a blocked FG for a TD. It adds up. Yes. In most games your offense has to score 60 to win. That's how Sumlin runs the show. However, a superior coach with superior athletes will shut that show down faster than a North Korean hacker. This database goes back to 2006: http://insider.espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/classrankings Quote
TxHoops Posted December 18, 2014 Report Posted December 18, 2014 I just went to the NCAA Legislative Services Database which list all major infractions handled by the NCAA. And I found it interesting that the Current Big 12 teams have had a total of 14 major infractions reported and handled by the NCAA since 2000. The current members of t he SEC during the same time appear to have had 15 major infractions. So that seems to dump a little cold water on the "assumption" that the SEC is the end all of wrong doing in the NCAA - at least when compared to the Big 12. And just to compare Texas and Texas A&M - Texas had the most recent major violation and that was in 2002 - Texas A&M's last major violation was reported in 1994. Of course the SEC hasn't had that many violations. Thieves don't snitch on each other. They were dismayed at the lack of "decorum" on the Cam Newton fiasco. But ask any D1 coach where cheating is most rampant. I promise you virtually all of their answers will be the same. The 2002 infraction was for paying recruits? I didn't think so. When was A&M last competitive? Yeah, mid 90s... Mr. Buddy Garrity 1 Quote
TxHoops Posted December 18, 2014 Report Posted December 18, 2014 For the record, I personally don't care what a recruit or his family gets. These kids are used in a multi-billion dollar industry under the guise of a free education. And then they are told which BS classes to take so they can stay eligible and we are hardly educating them. Personally, I think the rules are the rules and you should play by them but that's me. I would never report or judge a kid or his family because I'm not here to impose my morals or beliefs on them. If a school wants to pay them or their kid or get them a job, and they're cool with it, so be it. My name is Paul and that's between y'all. Quote
Peppermint Patty Posted December 18, 2014 Report Posted December 18, 2014 There's an old saying: Win if you can. Lose if you must. But always cheat. My son played Division 1 baseball for 2 years. I have heard stories and know things to be true. One thing is for certain-They are all cheating. Mr. Buddy Garrity and OldTimer 2 Quote
OldTimer Posted December 18, 2014 Report Posted December 18, 2014 Of course the SEC hasn't had that many violations. Thieves don't snitch on each other. They were dismayed at the lack of "decorum" on the Cam Newton fiasco. But ask any D1 coach where cheating is most rampant. I promise you virtually all of their answers will be the same. The 2002 infraction was for paying recruits? I didn't think so. When was A&M last competitive? Yeah, mid 90s... So again - No proof - No investigations and No Activity - so you can just say it and make it true? So then if that is the case - the coaches that a year or so ago all stated that Briles at Baylor was crooked make it true? - I do not think so! So if I were to say Texas cheats and "everybody" knows it - that makes it true - how interesting ;) And actually the 2002 violation was: "Violation of honesty standards and bona fide outside employment and a failure to monitor." Ouch - that would make Coach Strong angry - the Violation of Honesty :D Quote
OldTimer Posted December 18, 2014 Report Posted December 18, 2014 And TxHoops - I will agree with you that there should be some kind of benefit for the student athlete. However, if and when that happens it could be the death of the small college programs - Texas, Texas A&M, Bama, Oklahoma, and those can afford to pay the additional funds or would find a way to do so. But schools like Texas State, SFA, Lamar, Sam Houston State and likely TCU and perhaps Baylor would be hurt immediately. Quote
OldTimer Posted December 18, 2014 Report Posted December 18, 2014 There's an old saying: Win if you can. Lose if you must. But always cheat. My son played Division 1 baseball for 2 years. I have heard stories and know things to be true. One thing is for certain-They are all cheating. To one degree or another you are absolutely correct. Quote
TxHoops Posted December 18, 2014 Report Posted December 18, 2014 So again - No proof - No investigations and No Activity - so you can just say it and make it true? So then if that is the case - the coaches that a year or so ago all stated that Briles at Baylor was crooked make it true? - I do not think so! So if I were to say Texas cheats and "everybody" knows it - that makes it true - how interesting ;) And actually the 2002 violation was: "Violation of honesty standards and bona fide outside employment and a failure to monitor."Ouch - that would make Coach Strong angry - the Violation of Honesty :D So again, you ASSume that I have no proof. Once again, I could give you concrete examples of several instances of major violations/cheating. Almost all of them involve an SEC school (3 different ones off hand come to mind). All come from either a coach, a booster involved, or a kid/family. I would NEVER put a kid's name on the internet nor snitch on a kid or his family. Again, none of my business. But you are correct - me saying it is true does not make it true. The fact that it happened makes it true. You can assume I have no proof all you want. But you know what they say about assuming... Quote
TxHoops Posted December 18, 2014 Report Posted December 18, 2014 And TxHoops - I will agree with you that there should be some kind of benefit for the student athlete. However, if and when that happens it could be the death of the small college programs - Texas, Texas A&M, Bama, Oklahoma, and those can afford to pay the additional funds or would find a way to do so. But schools like Texas State, SFA, Lamar, Sam Houston State and likely TCU and perhaps Baylor would be hurt immediately. All D1 schools can afford to pay their football and basketball players a stipend. It's not going to be a bidding war on players - if anything, it's going to be a set amount (believe me it will be modest or the greedy b%^|€€\s wouldn't approve it) going to each athlete. And as for the SHs, SFAs, and Lamars, it's not like they are competing for the same players as the Texas's and A&Ms anyway. Granted, girls soccer may not get the same benefits (except in Aggieland) but they also aren't bringing in any revenue. This is a capitalist society we live in, after all. Quote
baddog Posted December 18, 2014 Report Posted December 18, 2014 came across some ####, found it interesting... thought Id drop it here These guys didn't get beat in 106,000 seat stadiums. The scouts in the know were at these schools. They better be. Steve McNair - Alcorn St. Ed "Too-Tall" Jones - Tennessee St. Wayne Chrebet - Hofstra Marques Colston - Hofstra Jeremiah Trotter - Stephen F. Austin Randy Moss - Marshall Terry Bradshaw - Louisiana Tech Jason Taylor - Akron Darrell Green - Texas A&M Robert Mathis - Alabama A&M Corey Williams - Arkansas St. Jared Allen - Idaho St. Antonio Gates - Kent St. Jake Delhomme - Louisianna-Lafayette Darren Sharper - College of William Mary Al Harris - Texas A&M Gene Upshaw - Texas A&M Rodney Harrison - Western Illinois d*ck "Night Train" Lane - Scottsbluff JuCo Adalius Thomas - Southern Miss Bart Scott - Southern Illinois Rich Gannon - Delaware Michael Strahan - Texas Southern Rashean Mathis - Bethune Cookman Donald Driver - Alcorn St Brandon Marshall - UCF Terrell Owens - Tennessee Chatanooga Brian Westbook - Villanova Jimmy Smith - Jackson State Jerry Rice - Mississippi Valley State Tony Romo - Eastern Illinois Brandon Jacobs - Southern Illinois Kurt Warner - Northern Iowa London Fletcher - John Carroll Aeneas Williams - Southern Walter Payton - Jackson State Lofa Tatupa - Maine (transfered to USC after a couple years) Larry Allen - Sonama State Steve Young - BYU Andre Reed - Kutztown Phil Simms - Morehead State Doug Williams - Grambling State theyre not all 1AA schools but most of them are..... ####, Fletcher/Larry Allen/d*ck Lane and a few other greats went to 1AAA schools :wow: Quote
OldTimer Posted December 18, 2014 Report Posted December 18, 2014 So again, you ASSume that I have no proof. Once again, I could give you concrete examples of several instances of major violations/cheating. Almost all of them involve an SEC school (3 different ones off hand come to mind). All come from either a coach, a booster involved, or a kid/family. I would NEVER put a kid's name on the internet nor snitch on a kid or his family. Again, none of my business. But you are correct - me saying it is true does not make it true. The fact that it happened makes it true. You can assume I have no proof all you want. But you know what they say about assuming... You have proof then I will back off. But the fact is that my Aggie's and Raider's as well as your Horns likely bend and twist the rules a lot more than any of us will ever admit too. Quote
PhatMack19 Posted December 18, 2014 Author Report Posted December 18, 2014 @skhanjr: Texas A&M coach Kevin Sumlin announced offensive line coach BJ Anderson will not return next season nor will he coach in the Liberty Bowl. Quote
Roper84 Posted December 18, 2014 Report Posted December 18, 2014 @skhanjr: Texas A&M coach Kevin Sumlin announced offensive line coach BJ Anderson will not return next season nor will he coach in the Liberty Bowl. Sumlin knows who butters his bread........ BJ's boys took a step back this year. Quote
Roper84 Posted December 18, 2014 Report Posted December 18, 2014 You know it's mutual :). My prayers are with you, your father and your family, brother. Thanks for the kind words Txhoop and GPat . Quote
OldTimer Posted December 18, 2014 Report Posted December 18, 2014 That's the 2nd good recruiter that A&M has lost - does not bode well. Quote
Peppermint Patty Posted December 18, 2014 Report Posted December 18, 2014 The o line was the biggest bust of the season. Sherman and company could have developed that group. Quote
PhatMack19 Posted February 2, 2015 Author Report Posted February 2, 2015 Yessir! @TaylorHamm247: BREAKING: Kendall Bussey flips to Texas A&M (FREE) http://t.co/gTFtk42RHx via @247Sports Quote
Peppermint Patty Posted February 2, 2015 Report Posted February 2, 2015 Yessir! @TaylorHamm247: BREAKING: Kendall Bussey flips to Texas A&M (FREE) http://t.co/gTFtk42RHx via @247Sports Huge pick up for the Ags. Sorry. It even felt funny typing that. 3Star KSum strikes again. Quote
Mr. Buddy Garrity Posted February 2, 2015 Report Posted February 2, 2015 Huge pick up for the Ags. Sorry. It even felt funny typing that. 3Star KSum strikes again. 3star? Must be a typo. Quote
PhatMack19 Posted February 2, 2015 Author Report Posted February 2, 2015 Huge pick up for the Ags. Sorry. It even felt funny typing that. 3Star KSum strikes again. He's a hard worker. Quote
BlackShirts5 Posted February 2, 2015 Report Posted February 2, 2015 Yessir! @TaylorHamm247: BREAKING: Kendall Bussey flips to Texas A&M (FREE) http://t.co/gTFtk42RHx via @247Sports Hope he stays there. Hes what not gone from Neb to Tenn to now A&M Mr. Buddy Garrity 1 Quote
PhatMack19 Posted March 2, 2015 Author Report Posted March 2, 2015 Yessir! http://247sports.com/Player/Zarrian-Holcombe-77094 I don't know what to think of this @gkketch: Love the commitment of Zarrian Holcombe for the Aggies. One of my favorite under-the-radar prospects in the entire state. Quote
Mr. Buddy Garrity Posted March 3, 2015 Report Posted March 3, 2015 Yessir!http://247sports.com/Player/Zarrian-Holcombe-77094 I don't know what to think of this @gkketch: Love the commitment of Zarrian Holcombe for the Aggies. One of my favorite under-the-radar prospects in the entire state. Summer Creek? Hope he's not overrated like the football prog…….. Nevermind Quote
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