badndn Posted April 17, 2014 Report Posted April 17, 2014 Or three teams meet and flip. Odd team gets a bye. Other two play each other Friday and the winner plays the bye team Saturday. Done and settled on the field by wins and losses. Heck they could even do a double header Friday Night in Beaumont or at Goose Creek, heck even BH (so they could scout). If the run differential is total district then PNG would get the playoff spot (PNG +33, Lumb +26, Liv -11), but I sure hope it doesn't come down to any run-differential (even if we benefit) it should be played out. If it does poor Central could lose 100-0 next year in a game. Quote
badndn Posted April 17, 2014 Report Posted April 17, 2014 I believe the hold up is because there was a question about how the run differential is calculated. I believe the rule book says total season differential not head to head of teams tied. They are waiting on a state clarification of the rule. Why would the State get involved? UIL will tell you that they have no bearing on how each district decides its playoff participants other than a date by which it should be reported. Quote
CRUSHCOACH Posted April 17, 2014 Report Posted April 17, 2014 Or three teams meet and flip. Odd team gets a bye. Other two play each other Friday and the winner plays the bye team Saturday. Done and settled on the field by wins and losses. Heck they could even do a double header Friday Night in Beaumont or at Goose Creek, heck even BH (so they could scout). If the run differential is total district then PNG would get the playoff spot (PNG +33, Lumb +26, Liv -11), but I sure hope it doesn't come down to any run-differential (even if we benefit) it should be played out. If it does poor Central could lose 100-0 next year in a game. This is the correct way to do it in my opinion. And its fair to all teams involved. Quote
Eazy Posted April 17, 2014 Report Posted April 17, 2014 Or three teams meet and flip. Odd team gets a bye. Other two play each other Friday and the winner plays the bye team Saturday. Done and settled on the field by wins and losses. Heck they could even do a double header Friday Night in Beaumont or at Goose Creek, heck even BH (so they could scout). If the run differential is total district then PNG would get the playoff spot (PNG +33, Lumb +26, Liv -11), but I sure hope it doesn't come down to any run-differential (even if we benefit) it should be played out. If it does poor Central could lose 100-0 next year in a game. I agree. Pick a neutral field like Beaumont and play a DH on Friday or Saturday. Run differential tiebreakers will just encourage teams to leave in their starters and try and keep scoring. It's about W's and L's. How would you know that your Feb 25th game would end up being a run differential game? It's all hindsight now. Forget the run differential stats and play the games. Quote
AshlyHasBeen Posted April 17, 2014 Report Posted April 17, 2014 Nearly 1 pm and coaches still haven't been told anything. Ridiculous. Quote
badndn Posted April 17, 2014 Report Posted April 17, 2014 Nearly 1 pm and coaches still haven't been told anything. Ridiculous. Agreed...This is not that difficult. I can't see a single district coach that would argue against playing it out. Quote
AshlyHasBeen Posted April 17, 2014 Report Posted April 17, 2014 Just imagine being a senior on one of these teams. Do you think you could concentrate on school when you're not sure if you've played your final game? Lemoine says she believes it's the district voting on it. It's sad that the coaches involved aren't even sure. The tiebreaker system in districts has to be cleared up in the future to prevent this. Quote
badndn Posted April 17, 2014 Report Posted April 17, 2014 So what exactly is the district voting on and who is "The District"? Quote
AshlyHasBeen Posted April 17, 2014 Report Posted April 17, 2014 District committee votes on these type of things not the UIL. I don't know specifics but I assume they're voting on if the fourth place tiebreaker written isn't specific enough to be used. Then they would vote on what kind of tiebreaker will be used. Like I said I'm only assuming that. Quote
Fergton Posted April 17, 2014 Report Posted April 17, 2014 http://www.lcmcisd.org/docs/uilhb.pdf Page 28 Quote
badndn Posted April 17, 2014 Report Posted April 17, 2014 Thats clear as mud. "If there is no winner, head to head, points scored, and points scored against will determine the 4th place spot." So with the commas does it mean if there is no head to head winner you use point diff (total or amongst ties) or or does it mean head to head point diff? Then it clearly states you play a three team tourny like mentioned above. Why wouldnt this just be top of the page and get rid of all of the other BS. Local 3As playoff all ties 1st through 4th as does 19 4A and 184A. Quote
AshlyHasBeen Posted April 17, 2014 Report Posted April 17, 2014 Every district decides their own tiebreaker format. Not UIL. I'd rather the UIL make it a uniform set of procedures. Quote
AshlyHasBeen Posted April 17, 2014 Report Posted April 17, 2014 The commas is what makes everything confusing. It should be listed. Tiebreaker 1 Tiebreaker 2 Etc. I understand you would think just go in order listed. But a coach eliminated could say it's not clear. The commas make it seem like you combine all tiebreakers. Not to mention it doesn't say if it's against ALL opponents or teams involved in tiebreaker. Quote
AshlyHasBeen Posted April 17, 2014 Report Posted April 17, 2014 So if it's run scored with just the teams involved (if scores that I have are correct) LUM - 19 LIV - 13 PNG - 12 But overall district games is PNG - 93 LUM - 92 LIV - 61 Quote
AshlyHasBeen Posted April 17, 2014 Report Posted April 17, 2014 District meeting 4 pm at LCM to decide tiebreaker. Coaches are heading that way. Quote
AshlyHasBeen Posted April 17, 2014 Report Posted April 17, 2014 The issue is the tiebreaker procedure is not clear if it only includes runs against teams involved or all district opponents. That's according to Lemoine. Quote
badndn Posted April 17, 2014 Report Posted April 17, 2014 If it's gonna be up to all the district coaches I find it hard to believe they won't play it out. Every coach wants to win it on the field not in a conference room. Quote
Armchair Quarterback Posted April 17, 2014 Report Posted April 17, 2014 soooooooooooooo....what is the verdict? Quote
AshlyHasBeen Posted April 17, 2014 Report Posted April 17, 2014 Still no word. I'm sure it's a circus. Quote
tupac7 Posted April 17, 2014 Report Posted April 17, 2014 Let me put it in plain English .... Png is out .... Quote
AshlyHasBeen Posted April 17, 2014 Report Posted April 17, 2014 Lumberton and Livingston will have a one game playoff to decide 4th spot in 20-4A. #12SportsSETX Quote
badndn Posted April 17, 2014 Report Posted April 17, 2014 Lumberton and Livingston will have a one game playoff to decide 4th spot in 20-4A. #12SportsSETXHorse Shit!!!!! So your gonna tell a group of girls, some of which are seniors, who beat the same exact teams as the other two teams, that their wins were good enough to warrant a playoff, but yours werent!!!! Quote
OneChance Posted April 17, 2014 Report Posted April 17, 2014 Well I am assuming the game will be played tomorrow or Saturday since the schools do not want any activities Monday due to STARR test on Tuesday and Wednesday! And the teams have to be turned in Tuesday. Quote
tupac7 Posted April 17, 2014 Report Posted April 17, 2014 I guess the district does not like png Quote
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