jv_coach Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 Going with the flow RELIGION | Bible Study Fellowship joins controversy by adopting the 2011 NIV Bible By DAVE SWAVELY Issue: "Coat of many dollars," May 3, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014, 01:00 a.m. When Kitty Oman heard that Bible Study Fellowship had decided to switch to the 2011 redo of the New International Version in its teaching materials, she was concerned. She had heard of the controversy surrounding that translation, so she did some research about the issue on her own. What she found out eventually led her to write a letter of resignation from her position as a BSF small group leader. In it she said, “BSF has been an amazing tool in my life to grow in Christ and be blessed with godly relationships that are precious to me,†but added “with sadness†that she thinks the decision to use the new NIV has “opened the door†for distortions of truth in the ministry. Others are also leaving BSF over this issue. For readers who may not be aware of the controversy surrounding the 2011 NIV, it began in 1996 with publication of the NIV Inclusive Language Edition (now discontinued) and continued in the early 2000s with release of Today’s New International Version (TNIV). Critics such as Wayne Grudem decried many of the changes made to the widely used 1984 NIV, particularly the use of “gender neutral†language that led to plural pronouns such as “they†replacing single masculine ones like “he.†Critics also disputed the translation of some important verses about gender issues. For example, 1 Timothy 2:12 changed from saying women should not “have authority†over men, to women should not “assume authorityâ€: That understanding could allow women to be pastors and elders as long as their church duly appoints them. ‘It’s one thing to translate God’s Word in terms the culture will understand; it’s another to do so in terms the culture will accept.’ —Harry Reeder The Committee on Bible Translation (CBT), which is responsible for the NIV, took the criticisms into account when it produced the 2011 update, but the changes it made were not sufficient for most of the critics, since many of the plural pronouns and the 1 Timothy 2:12 wording remained. The critics are complementarians—they say men and women have some roles that are different but complementary—but the CBT includes egalitarians who downplay differences. Critics worry that the CBT is compromising the integrity of Scripture. For example, Birmingham pastor Harry Reeder says the 2011 NIV is “more committed to being affirmed by the culture than communicating God’s Word to the culture. It’s one thing to translate God’s Word in terms the culture will understand; it’s another to do so in terms the culture will accept.†But CBT member Craig Blomberg, a Denver Seminary professor who describes himself as a “mild complementarian,†says the CBT sought to apply research findings on English language usage and to produce what he calls an “optimally equivalent†translation. Regarding the specific example of 1 Timothy 2:12, Blomberg says “assume authority†is a neutral translation that the CBT thought did not tilt the exegesis one way or the other. BSF Executive Director Susan Rowan told me BSF “believes and teaches the full inerrancy of the original text of Scripture,†and “the BSF leadership conducted thorough research and consulted with several scholars to assure that the NIV 2011 continued its tradition of accuracy to the original manuscripts.†—Dave Swavely is a Pennsylvania pastor and author Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthoftheBorder Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 I stand firmly against the NIV 2011 and when my 1984 hard copy version falls apart I will move to another version that has not compromised to meet the demands of a secular culture!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 I prefer the NIV version but am not really familiar with the different versions of NIV. Mine is certainly older than 2011. I have found a discrepancy or two in mine compared to King James but I still prefer my NIV for reading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LumRaiderFan Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 When you click on the link, go to "Ripped out of the Bible" and it will download a .pdf Good comparison of the versions...Floyd Jones used to drive to Lamar from Houston to teach. http://www.floydnolenjones.com/Floyd_Nolen_Jones_2/Writings.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AledoBearcatsCO2014 Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 I read a study version of the Bible and King James. King James can be a pain to read but it definitely holds true to what the Bible really says. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthoftheBorder Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 When you click on the link, go to "Ripped out of the Bible" and it will download a .pdf Good comparison of the versions...Floyd Jones used to drive to Lamar from Houston to teach. http://www.floydnolenjones.com/Floyd_Nolen_Jones_2/Writings.html I went and heard ole Floyd a time or two!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scatright Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 I read a study version of the Bible and King James. King James can be a pain to read but it definitely holds true to what the Bible really says. Do you think that the KJV is the original text? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jv_coach Posted April 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 Do you think that the KJV is the original text? I know you did not ask me, but hopefully this can cut off any trouble. The KJV Bible is a good translation, and as pioneers headed west it was the KJV Bible they took with them. The KJV Bible was written on a 11th/12th grade reading level (so shame on us for being lazy stupid if that is why one dislikes the KJV) The KJV was written along time ago and while people do not evolve words do so other translations are ok. Me personally I like the "Thus saith the Lord" but that is a personal thing not a theological thing. There are good translations out there and the KJV, ESV NKVJ,Holman, NASB is some of them, and there are some bad translations out there (RSV,Message Bible, the 2011 NIV). One of the better translations out there might be the Danial Webster Bible ever heard of it? But when it comes down to it the best Bible is one that is read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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