gun free zones!

[77]

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/04/26/meet-the-guy-who-could-once-and-for-all-destroy-the-lefts-argument-against-putting-more-guns-in-schools/

[LumRaiderFan]

Good article...no one appreciates a gun free zone more than the bad guys.

[PAMFAM10]

Guess that's why they choose to shoot up police stations and army bases huh

[5GallonBucket]

murder is murder

 

but killing kids now....come on PAM

[LumRaiderFan]

Guess that's why they choose to shoot up police stations and army bases huh

 

So you are all for gun free zones and more stringent gun control laws...just asking, because I'm not sure from your comment.

 

By the way, not everyone on a military base carries a weapon.

 

Why wouldn't Chicago be a safe haven if more restrictive gun control laws worked?

[5GallonBucket]

Greatpoint there raider about Chicago......

 

 

Obama's home right.....that great community organizer did wonders there didn't he.

 

Transparent Obama 

[77]

Fort Hood is a gun free zone buddy!

[PAMFAM10]

I never got the whole gun free zone argument most to all mass shooting suspects take there own lives anyway. If somebody can make a decision to kill I highly doubt they're looking for gun free zones to do it

[77]

Thats where lefties are wrong they choose gun free zones and take their own life because they are cowards and they know if folks are armed the kill numbers wont be near as large! That is fact!

[PAMFAM10]

If some one Makes a decision to kill they're not worried if it's a gun free Zone just my opinion. . I do however believe people should be able to carry license [HANDGUN] almost anywhere

[stevenash]

If some one Makes a decision to kill they're not worried if it's a gun free Zone just my opinion. . I do however believe people should be able to carry license [HANDGUN] almost anywhere

Careful there, PAMFAM10,  believing people should be able to carry a licensed handgun is a contention of the right.  Are you sure you can handle believing in something that the left believes in?

[77]

They absolutely choose their targets and gun free zones play in it big time!

[bullets13]

I have no way to verify the actual numbers this article claims, but it's common sense stuff.  The more responders you have, and the quicker their response, the less casualties you will take.  I wish that every school had at least an officer, and i wholeheartedly support schools having teachers who carry as well, assuming that they complete a training far more stringent than what it takes to obtain a CHL.  My mom is a teacher and has her CHL, and i wouldn't be particularly comfortable with her shooting at anything even remotely near my general direction (sorry mom).  but give teachers extensive training in shooting, target acquisition, situational training, etc., and i'm all for them being able to carry.

[PAMFAM10]

Teachers with guns bad idea school with armed officers and arm security better idea

[77]

https://imgur.com/012R4RW

[bullets13]

Teachers with guns bad idea school with armed officers and arm security better idea

Why are teachers with guns a bad idea?  i mean, i can understand SOME teachers with guns being a bad idea, but that's what the extensive training is for.  I think it's safe to say many (or most) districts cant afford to hire officers and armed security for every school in their district.  For even medium-sized districts that would add millions in payroll per year. While I'd love for that to be possible, it's just simply not in many districts.   To me, let teachers take the training, and if they can qualify under the rigid guidelines, then let them bring a weapon to school.  you can set regs on the types and calibers of weapons, as well as the types of ammunition used, to ensure that teachers have the most effective defense options available, while protecting against the possibility of a child being hit through a wall or through the bad guy.  at least in younger "huggy" grades, it would be important that teachers keep their weapon locked up in their classroom.  It's not optimal, but it all but eliminates the possibility of an accident.  if you have a few teachers spread out around the school with access to weapons, no matter where an incident starts you should have somebody close that can get to and access a weapon, and step in and engage the suspect.  the principal/vice principals are other logical choices for this.

[LumRaiderFan]

Teachers with guns bad idea school with armed officers and arm security better idea

 

Disagree...teachers that are trained would be a great idea and they wouldn't be an extra cost to the ISD like security officers would.

[stevenash]

Don't worry about the cost.  We can always raise taxes on the rich - especially since we don't do it very often

[PAMFAM10]

I just say I will feel more comfortable knowing a trained officer or personal who deal with guns for a living Around my child than my child math teacher. I can imagine the chaos wrongful use of weapon teacher/student argument ending with a weapon drawn too much on the teacher. imo a officer or security down each Hall should do the trick.

[77]

Hell there's plenty of cops carrying guns and night sticks that shouldn't be!

[5GallonBucket]

as far as cost effectiveness.  having a teacher armed that the school is already paying is better than paying for more security personnel.

 

teachers = more guns oncampus.  therefore a decrease in these mass shootings on campus

[LumRaiderFan]

Many security personnel (not off-duty policemen) would be no more qualified than a trained teacher.

[mat]

Police officers would be preferred but expensive. PA for example has 14 campuses I think, x $50,000 salary (which is low, right TVC?) = $700,000 per year for one officer on campus verses 3 or 4 well trained armed teachers per campus at no cost.

[PAMFAM10]

So yeah is this a debate on what is cheaper or what is safer. I just think Teachers shouldn't have to be put in what law enforcement should be doing.

[tvc184]

So yeah is this a debate on what is cheaper or what is safer. I just think Teachers shouldn't have to be put in what law enforcement should be doing.

 

Yet the state in the last session created teacher police officers with full law enforcement powers on campus except for traffic.