gun free zones!

[Big girl]

some people will never get guys.....they would rather the govt own them and their guns

I forgot that obama is coming for our guns. SMH

[5GallonBucket]

im pretty sure he has made that clear....

 

tvc said it earlier....

 

give an inch they take a mile (eventually) and before you know it our 2nd amendment is no more

 

Obama has a means to an end with gun control. 

You can fall for his lies and misconceptions.....me on the other hand will stand strong 

 

"don't tread on me"

[5GallonBucket]

you may want to look up the history of how this country came about......and why people left Europe to come here and start a new life and finally create their own governing body and to get out from under the British thumb.

 

History is a great teacher.

[Big girl]

im pretty sure he has made that clear....

tvc said it earlier....

give an inch they take a mile (eventually) and before you know it our 2nd amendment is no more

Obama has a means to an end with gun control.
You can fall for his lies and misconceptions.....me on the other hand will stand strong

"don't tread on me"

you watch gox news dont you?

[Big girl]

Fox

[5GallonBucket]

as I ve stated before in other threads I don't watch fox, cnn, msnbc, I watch no major news stations.  I do watch the local news from time to time.

I don't watch much tv because there's too much garbage on there for me.

 

Sporting events is mainly what I watch.

 

My opinions are based on the person and what he/she has said or done.  no second hand info.  I watch the debates, union addresses, etc.....I want to hear/see their words come out of their mouth.  What issues do they say yes/no on.

[thetragichippy]

Here is some facts for 2012......

 

Number of murder victims in the United States in 2012, by weapon

Handguns............6,371

Firearms(types not stated)..........1,749

Knives or cutting instruments.......1,589

Hands, fist or feet...........678

Blunt Objects.................518

Rifles.........................322

Shotguns...................303

Other Guns.............110

Asphyiation.............105

Strangulation...........89

Fire................85

Narcotics.......35

Drowning.............13

Poison...............12

Explosives ........8

other weapons not stated ......778

 

So......Rifles account for 2.53% of the murders.....Get rid of rifles and you decrease murders by 2.53% (that's only if they choose not to murder with something else)

 

BUT....if we ban Knives, cut off everone's hands and feet(678 murders in 2012), blunt objects, other objects used as weapons, we could prevent 3,757 deaths and decrease crime by 29.44%

 

http://www.statista.com/statistics/195325/murder-victims-in-the-us-by-weapon-used/

[PAMFAM10]

you may want to look up the history of how this country came about......and why people left Europe to come here and start a new life and finally create their own governing body and to get out from under the British thumb.

History is a great teacher.

Don't get me started

[thetragichippy]

And something else......Did you notice that more murders were with hands and feet than Shotguns AND rifles put together???

 

Hmmmmmmmm

[bullets13]

 

And something else......Did you notice that more murders were with hands and feet than Shotguns AND rifles put together???
 
Hmmmmmmmm

 
on top of that, many more rifle murders are committed with rifles made for hunting than the rifles that some people claim are made "only for killing".

[thetragichippy]

Crickets.....

[LumRaiderFan]

Statistics can be brutal to a bogus argument.

[thetragichippy]

I thought Big Girl would find some errors in my stats......

[Big girl]

And something else......Did you notice that more murders were with hands and feet than Shotguns AND rifles put together???
What about semiautomatic weapons?
Hmmmmmmmm

[thetragichippy]

 

And something else......Did you notice that more murders were with hands and feet than Shotguns AND rifles put together???
What about semiautomatic weapons?
Hmmmmmmmm

 

 

Semi-Automatic : able to fire bullets one after the other quickly but not automatically

 

You might want to re-think your question or research before posting......that is any pistol with a magazine......

[LumRaiderFan]

 

 

Semi-Automatic : able to fire bullets one after the other quickly but not automatically

 

You might want to re-think your question or research before posting......that is any pistol with a magazine......

 

 

...or a shotgun you dove hunt with.

[tvc184]

...or a shotgun you dove hunt with.

Yes, those also. You know, the kind of weapons that Joe Biden suggests we shoot to scare off attackers.

[LumRaiderFan]

Yes, those also. You know, the kind of weapons that Joe Biden suggests we shoot to scare off attackers.

 

Being politically correct, Joe did suggest using a double barrel...much less lethal than the dreaded "assault" semi-automatic.   :rolleyes:

[bullets13]

I just keep wasp spray by the bed. the chain email i read said it was definitely effective against attackers... ;) but i hear they're banning the spray that travels 20 ft. Too dangerous. Obama is pushing through legislation that will limit us to only purchasing wasp spray that will shoot out ten feet.

[LumRaiderFan]

I just keep wasp spray by the bed. the chain email i read said it was definitely effective against attackers... ;) but i hear they're banning the spray that travels 20 ft. Too dangerous. Obama is pushing through legislation that will limit us to only purchasing wasp spray that will shoot out ten feet.

 

And only available in the 10 ounce can rather than the big 20 ounce!

[bullets13]

And only available in the 10 ounce can rather than the big 20 ounce!

Not since one innocent person was accidently hit with the "high capacity" can. That one poor guy is proof we need cans capable of holding no more than 10 ounces.

[LumRaiderFan]

Not since one innocent person was accidently hit with the "high capacity" can. That one poor guy is proof we need cans capable of holding no more than 10 ounces.

 

I know we are joking here but that is the thought process of many in the anti-gun crowd.

 

If the banning ever gets started it will be difficult to stop.

[bullets13]

I know we are joking here but that is the thought process of many in the anti-gun crowd.

If the banning ever gets started it will be difficult to stop.

I do feel that if the banning ever starts, it will be difficult to enforce. What with the majority of military and law enforcement sharing your and my views on the subject and all...

[stevenash]

A Tale of Two Cities

 

 

Chicago,  IL

 

Houston,  TX

 

 

 

 

Population

2.7 million

 

2.15 million

 

 

 

 

Median HH Income

$38,600

 

$37,000

 

 

 

 

% African-American

38.9%

 

24%

 

 

 

 

% Hispanic

29.9%

 

44%

 

 

 

 

% Asian

5.5%

 

6%

 

 

 

 

% Non-Hispanic White

28.7%

 

26%

 

 

 

 

 Pretty similar until you compare the following:

 

Chicago,  IL

 

Houston,  TX

 

 

 

 

 

 

Concealed Carry gun law

no

 

yes

  

 

 

 

 

 

# of Gun Stores

0

 

184 - Dedicated gun stores plus 1500 - legal places to buy guns- Walmart, K-mart, sporting goods, etc.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Homicides, 2012

1,806

 

207

 

 

 

 

 

 

Homicides per 100K

38.4

 

9.6

 

 

 

 

 

 

Avg. January high temperature  (F)

31

 

63

 

 

 

 

 

 

Liberal Conclusion:

Cold weather from  global warming causes murder.

 

[LumRaiderFan]

 

A Tale of Two Cities

 

 

Chicago,  IL

 

Houston,  TX

 

 

 

 

Population

2.7 million

 

2.15 million

 

 

 

 

Median HH Income

$38,600

 

$37,000

 

 

 

 

% African-American

38.9%

 

24%

 

 

 

 

% Hispanic

29.9%

 

44%

 

 

 

 

% Asian

5.5%

 

6%

 

 

 

 

% Non-Hispanic White

28.7%

 

26%

 

 

 

 

 Pretty similar until you compare the following:

 

Chicago,  IL

 

Houston,  TX

 

 

 

 

 

 

Concealed Carry gun law

no

 

yes

  

 

 

 

 

 

# of Gun Stores

0

 

184 - Dedicated gun stores plus 1500 - legal places to buy guns- Walmart, K-mart, sporting goods, etc.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Homicides, 2012

1,806

 

207

 

 

 

 

 

 

Homicides per 100K

38.4

 

9.6

 

 

 

 

 

 

Avg. January high temperature  (F)

31

 

63

 

 

 

 

 

 

Liberal Conclusion:

Cold weather from  global warming causes murder.

 

 

 

:D

 

Seriously...looks like Chicago needs a whole lot more legal guns with good guys carrying them.