Big girl Posted May 12, 2014 Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 some people will never get guys.....they would rather the govt own them and their guns I forgot that obama is coming for our guns. SMH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5GallonBucket Posted May 12, 2014 Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 im pretty sure he has made that clear.... tvc said it earlier.... give an inch they take a mile (eventually) and before you know it our 2nd amendment is no more Obama has a means to an end with gun control. You can fall for his lies and misconceptions.....me on the other hand will stand strong "don't tread on me" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5GallonBucket Posted May 12, 2014 Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 you may want to look up the history of how this country came about......and why people left Europe to come here and start a new life and finally create their own governing body and to get out from under the British thumb. History is a great teacher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big girl Posted May 12, 2014 Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 im pretty sure he has made that clear.... tvc said it earlier.... give an inch they take a mile (eventually) and before you know it our 2nd amendment is no more Obama has a means to an end with gun control. You can fall for his lies and misconceptions.....me on the other hand will stand strong "don't tread on me" you watch gox news dont you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big girl Posted May 12, 2014 Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 Fox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5GallonBucket Posted May 12, 2014 Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 as I ve stated before in other threads I don't watch fox, cnn, msnbc, I watch no major news stations. I do watch the local news from time to time. I don't watch much tv because there's too much garbage on there for me. Sporting events is mainly what I watch. My opinions are based on the person and what he/she has said or done. no second hand info. I watch the debates, union addresses, etc.....I want to hear/see their words come out of their mouth. What issues do they say yes/no on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetragichippy Posted May 12, 2014 Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 Here is some facts for 2012...... Number of murder victims in the United States in 2012, by weapon Handguns............6,371 Firearms(types not stated)..........1,749 Knives or cutting instruments.......1,589 Hands, fist or feet...........678 Blunt Objects.................518 Rifles.........................322 Shotguns...................303 Other Guns.............110 Asphyiation.............105 Strangulation...........89 Fire................85 Narcotics.......35 Drowning.............13 Poison...............12 Explosives ........8 other weapons not stated ......778 So......Rifles account for 2.53% of the murders.....Get rid of rifles and you decrease murders by 2.53% (that's only if they choose not to murder with something else) BUT....if we ban Knives, cut off everone's hands and feet(678 murders in 2012), blunt objects, other objects used as weapons, we could prevent 3,757 deaths and decrease crime by 29.44% http://www.statista.com/statistics/195325/murder-victims-in-the-us-by-weapon-used/ LumRaiderFan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAMFAM10 Posted May 12, 2014 Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 you may want to look up the history of how this country came about......and why people left Europe to come here and start a new life and finally create their own governing body and to get out from under the British thumb. History is a great teacher. Don't get me started Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetragichippy Posted May 12, 2014 Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 And something else......Did you notice that more murders were with hands and feet than Shotguns AND rifles put together??? Hmmmmmmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullets13 Posted May 12, 2014 Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 And something else......Did you notice that more murders were with hands and feet than Shotguns AND rifles put together??? Hmmmmmmmm on top of that, many more rifle murders are committed with rifles made for hunting than the rifles that some people claim are made "only for killing". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetragichippy Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Crickets..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LumRaiderFan Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Statistics can be brutal to a bogus argument. thetragichippy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetragichippy Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 I thought Big Girl would find some errors in my stats...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big girl Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 And something else......Did you notice that more murders were with hands and feet than Shotguns AND rifles put together??? What about semiautomatic weapons? Hmmmmmmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetragichippy Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 And something else......Did you notice that more murders were with hands and feet than Shotguns AND rifles put together??? What about semiautomatic weapons? Hmmmmmmmm Semi-Automatic : able to fire bullets one after the other quickly but not automatically You might want to re-think your question or research before posting......that is any pistol with a magazine...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LumRaiderFan Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Semi-Automatic : able to fire bullets one after the other quickly but not automatically You might want to re-think your question or research before posting......that is any pistol with a magazine...... ...or a shotgun you dove hunt with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvc184 Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 ...or a shotgun you dove hunt with. Yes, those also. You know, the kind of weapons that Joe Biden suggests we shoot to scare off attackers. thetragichippy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LumRaiderFan Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Yes, those also. You know, the kind of weapons that Joe Biden suggests we shoot to scare off attackers. Being politically correct, Joe did suggest using a double barrel...much less lethal than the dreaded "assault" semi-automatic. :rolleyes: thetragichippy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullets13 Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 I just keep wasp spray by the bed. the chain email i read said it was definitely effective against attackers... ;) but i hear they're banning the spray that travels 20 ft. Too dangerous. Obama is pushing through legislation that will limit us to only purchasing wasp spray that will shoot out ten feet. Englebert and LumRaiderFan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LumRaiderFan Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 I just keep wasp spray by the bed. the chain email i read said it was definitely effective against attackers... ;) but i hear they're banning the spray that travels 20 ft. Too dangerous. Obama is pushing through legislation that will limit us to only purchasing wasp spray that will shoot out ten feet. And only available in the 10 ounce can rather than the big 20 ounce! bullets13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullets13 Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 And only available in the 10 ounce can rather than the big 20 ounce! Not since one innocent person was accidently hit with the "high capacity" can. That one poor guy is proof we need cans capable of holding no more than 10 ounces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LumRaiderFan Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Not since one innocent person was accidently hit with the "high capacity" can. That one poor guy is proof we need cans capable of holding no more than 10 ounces. I know we are joking here but that is the thought process of many in the anti-gun crowd. If the banning ever gets started it will be difficult to stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullets13 Posted May 14, 2014 Report Share Posted May 14, 2014 I know we are joking here but that is the thought process of many in the anti-gun crowd. If the banning ever gets started it will be difficult to stop. I do feel that if the banning ever starts, it will be difficult to enforce. What with the majority of military and law enforcement sharing your and my views on the subject and all... thetragichippy and Englebert 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted May 15, 2014 Report Share Posted May 15, 2014 A Tale of Two Cities Chicago, IL Houston, TX Population 2.7 million 2.15 million Median HH Income $38,600 $37,000 % African-American 38.9% 24% % Hispanic 29.9% 44% % Asian 5.5% 6% % Non-Hispanic White 28.7% 26% Pretty similar until you compare the following: Chicago, IL Houston, TX Concealed Carry gun law no yes # of Gun Stores 0 184 - Dedicated gun stores plus 1500 - legal places to buy guns- Walmart, K-mart, sporting goods, etc. Homicides, 2012 1,806 207 Homicides per 100K 38.4 9.6 Avg. January high temperature (F) 31 63 Liberal Conclusion: Cold weather from global warming causes murder. 5GallonBucket 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LumRaiderFan Posted May 15, 2014 Report Share Posted May 15, 2014 A Tale of Two Cities Chicago, IL Houston, TX Population 2.7 million 2.15 million Median HH Income $38,600 $37,000 % African-American 38.9% 24% % Hispanic 29.9% 44% % Asian 5.5% 6% % Non-Hispanic White 28.7% 26% Pretty similar until you compare the following: Chicago, IL Houston, TX Concealed Carry gun law no yes # of Gun Stores 0 184 - Dedicated gun stores plus 1500 - legal places to buy guns- Walmart, K-mart, sporting goods, etc. Homicides, 2012 1,806 207 Homicides per 100K 38.4 9.6 Avg. January high temperature (F) 31 63 Liberal Conclusion: Cold weather from global warming causes murder. :D Seriously...looks like Chicago needs a whole lot more legal guns with good guys carrying them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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