Bigcam2903 Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Cam, I was on a jury a couple months back and the jury was made up of 7 whites, 2 hisp and 3 blacks. The defendant was black and we came to a unanomous not guilty. No racism!! And if you think real hard you'll know what trial it was because it was a high profile case. All Hope isn't lost, you bring up a good point. I pray the Jury would close their eyes, look at the facts and render a fair & just verdict. PNG, I've served on a few & witnessed a few & all were ridiculous. Your Jury pool obviously studied the facts & left the Outside stuff outside. If not talked about with an open mind and compassion, Race relations will continue to be a problem. It can't be one sided for any Race of people. PNGFan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westend1 Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Question- since this is a six person jury, does the vote have to be unanimous to convict ? yep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvc184 Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Question- since this is a six person jury, does the vote have to be unanimous to convict ? .... as westend said and also to acquit. It has to be unanimous one way or the other or a mistrial will be declared. The defendant can be brought to trial again on the same charges at the discretion of the DA because a mistrial does not count against double jeopardy. Locally I have seen mistrials tried a second time and if no conviction on the second attempt, the case is dropped as there simply is not the likelihood of enough evidence to convict. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDOVE3 Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Dove, does that mean you are the RC police? Yes, I have taken upon myself to monitor the race card codes you people put out on this board. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDOVE3 Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Just call it professional observatiin. Oh hell naw, all swag has left the building. You making up new words as you go along. Can't trust your opinions. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDOVE3 Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 All Hope isn't lost, you bring up a good point. I pray the Jury would close their eyes, look at the facts and render a fair & just verdict. PNG, I've served on a few & witnessed a few & all were ridiculous. Your Jury pool obviously studied the facts & left the Outside stuff outside. If not talked about with an open mind and compassion, Race relations will continue to be a problem. It can't be one sided for any Race of people. hell naw, I'm still waiting on my forty acres, and da man can keep the mule!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester86 Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Oh hell naw, all swag has left the building. You making up new words as you go along. Can't trust your opinions. ;) It wasn't me! I'm not the brightest bulb in the pack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDOVE3 Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 It wasn't me! I'm not the brightest bulb in the pack. 'It wasn't me!!!!" :lol: Mr. Buddy Garrity 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetragichippy Posted May 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 OK....back to subject.....Shouldn't this be a simple case? She is on trial for obstructing a door.....right? She clearly did do that. right? As for if she was assaulted, does that really matter? If I'm caught shoplifting and someone assaults me, does the shoplifting charge go away? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Kudos to Tragichippy!!!! Very simple and very obvious. But someone from the left is going to find a way to make it much more complicated than that and make you feel guilty for believing what you believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigcam2903 Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 hell naw, I'm still waiting on my forty acres, and da man can keep the mule!!! Bwahaaaa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDOVE3 Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Kudos to Tragichippy!!!! Very simple and very obvious. But someone from the left is going to find a way to make it much more complicated than that and make you feel guilty for believing what you believe. This guy continues to troll the forums Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigcam2903 Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 All I want to know why are we having a trial in the First Place?? Assault, please. Give her a Fine & let's move on. We have far bigger issues. I'm sick of hearing the same lame excuses from the 2 board members that they aren't Ever in the know. It would seem with this widespread misappropriation that these two would definitely keep a very close eye on District dealings. One of them was caught doing the very thing he's Blasting the District for doing. I don't see him in the News. Their All involved in some fashion. Just some things they weren't down with. SMH Mr. Buddy Garrity 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetragichippy Posted May 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 This guy continues to troll the forums ME Troll? Not Hardly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetragichippy Posted May 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 All I want to know why are we having a trial in the First Place?? Assault, please. Give her a Fine & let's move on. We have far bigger issues. I'm sick of hearing the same lame excuses from the 2 board members that they aren't Ever in the know. It would seem with this widespread misappropriation that these two would definitely keep a very close eye on District dealings. One of them was caught doing the very thing he's Blasting the District for doing. I don't see him in the News. Their All involved in some fashion. Just some things they weren't down with. SMH Who you talking about Bigcam? The reason they are having a trial is they(public) want her gone.... Not sure about what you do, but in my job, if I started singing during a public meeting, I would get fired. If I blocked a doorway (for whatever reason)....I would get fired.....if I falsified a police report claiming something happened at my job that didn't, I would be fired....... But she is still there :wacko: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigcam2903 Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 I see we have the anticipated delays put in motion by BISD. The District really thinks TEA won't take over. Is this case a Slam Dunk for TEA?? I really think the District's goose is cooked. Haynes is like the Court Jesture providing Entertaimnent before the Feast Lol thetragichippy and bullets13 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigcam2903 Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 { Jester} >>>>>> Bwahaaaa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvc184 Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 All I want to know why are we having a trial in the First Place?? Assault, please. Give her a Fine & let's move on. We have far bigger issues.............. Why is there a trial in the place? Well, we have a person that on camera appears to have broken state law that says you cannot block access to a door or passageway. The DA reviewed the video evidence and obviously saw what everyone else should have and that is that Haynes blocked a person from entering where the person had the right to be. Why not give her a fine and move on? It appears that the DA tried to do just that and she would not accept it. Part of it was deferred adjudication meaning that if he does her six months on probation, the charge goes away like it didn't happen. I agree that they should move on but apparently she wants to pay more for a lawyer than she will save in probation fees and fine and then hope for jury nullification where they ignore the video and go with politics. Also, the "bigger" issues as you are referring to probably deal with the school district. This particular county court deals with these kinds of cases every day and has nothing to do with any other government function or issues. The court will have a misdemeanor trial today whether it is Haynes or someone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigcam2903 Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Why is there a trial in the place? Well, we have a person that on camera appears to have broken state law that says you cannot block access to a door or passageway. The DA reviewed the video evidence and obviously saw what everyone else should have and that is that Haynes blocked a person from entering where the person had the right to be. Why not give her a fine and move on? It appears that the DA tried to do just that and she would not accept it. Part of it was deferred adjudication meaning that if he does her six months on probation, the charge goes away like it didn't happen. I agree that they should move on but apparently she wants to pay more for a lawyer than she will save in probation fees and fine and then hope for jury nullification where they ignore the video and go with politics. Also, the "bigger" issues as you are referring to probably deal with the school district. This particular county court deals with these kinds of cases every day and has nothing to do with any other government function or issues. The court will have a misdemeanor trial today whether it is Haynes or someone else. I agree with all you wrote and the Evidence is there. This is so petty & pathetic. With all the ignorance going on, Man the doors with Officers since the Adults act like children. Any violations gets you a night in Jail & a hefty Fine. I've read she refused probation, didn't understand why. If what you sY is True she needs another Lawyer. SMH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdog Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 She might keep her job even if convicted, figures. Unless the TEA cleans house when they come in. http://www.beaumontenterprise.com/news/article/BISD-s-Haynes-could-keep-her-job-if-convicted-5489434.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetragichippy Posted May 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 I agree with all you wrote and the Evidence is there. This is so petty & pathetic. With all the ignorance going on, Man the doors with Officers since the Adults act like children. Any violations gets you a night in Jail & a hefty Fine. I've read she refused probation, didn't understand why. If what you sY is True she needs another Lawyer. SMH She has a plan......not sure what, but she has to have a plan...No way she turns down a plea deal AND an opportunity to stay out of the spot light......unless she is up to something. Bigcam2903 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Buddy Garrity Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 That judge was a middle school teacher of mine (Adams) at Woodrow Wilson, I thought that name looked familiar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDOVE3 Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 She might keep her job even if convicted, figures. Unless the TEA cleans house when they come in. http://www.beaumontenterprise.com/news/article/BISD-s-Haynes-could-keep-her-job-if-convicted-5489434.php Its just gonna be a misdemeanor ...sheez!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PNGFan Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 All I want to know why are we having a trial in the First Place?? Assault, please. Give her a Fine & let's move on. We have far bigger issues. I'm sick of hearing the same lame excuses from the 2 board members that they aren't Ever in the know. It would seem with this widespread misappropriation that these two would definitely keep a very close eye on District dealings. One of them was caught doing the very thing he's Blasting the District for doing. I don't see him in the News. Their All involved in some fashion. Just some things they weren't down with. SMHIt wasn't assault. If anything need to charge her with Workers Comp Fraud!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDOVE3 Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 It wasn't assault. If anything need to charge her with Workers Comp Fraud!! Hmmm? I'm still on patrol and I'm watching you people very closely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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