LumRaiderFan Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Thoughts? http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/05/20/judge-strikes-down-oregon-ban-on-gay-marriage/?intcmp=latestnews Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westend1 Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 I think we know how this will go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LumRaiderFan Posted May 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 I think we know how this will go. :) I actually don't think the fed gov should have any business in defining marriage...if anything it should be left to the states. I would have no problem with the states being out of it as well and letting local churches/institutions marry (and be free not to marry) whom they choose. Even though I may not agree with the lifestyle, I would not want to legally restrict anyone from living it. I have family members that are gay and while I don't agree with it (they know it) I still love them the same (they know this also). bullets13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smitty Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Thoughts? http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/05/20/judge-strikes-down-oregon-ban-on-gay-marriage/?intcmp=latestnews What did you expect from this judge? He's a homsexual AND appointed by obama!! Enough said! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Tisk, Tisk Smitty, You are not appropriately employing selective tolerance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big girl Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 We cannot enact laws based on biblical principles. We have freedom of religion. I dont agree with gay marriage but how can it he legally banned . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 We cannot enact laws based on biblical principles. We have freedom of religion. I dont agree with gay marriage but how can it he legally banned . Upon what principles should law enactment be based? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AledoBearcatsCO2014 Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 I still think we have to legalize marrying animals if we legalize gay marriage. Since you claim that we should not let the government define marriage, we should also allow people to marry animals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/oped/bal-free-speech-no-so-free-when-discussing-gay-rights-commentary-20140516,0,2653376.story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullets13 Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/oped/bal-free-speech-no-so-free-when-discussing-gay-rights-commentary-20140516,0,2653376.story the only thing this proves is that society's opinion has changed for a solid majority of people, and those people will backlash against politicians who in their eyes are marginalizing or discriminating against a sector of society. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullets13 Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 :) I actually don't think the fed gov should have any business in defining marriage...if anything it should be left to the states. I would have no problem with the states being out of it as well and letting local churches/institutions marry (and be free not to marry) whom they choose. Even though I may not agree with the lifestyle, I would not want to legally restrict anyone from living it. I have family members that are gay and while I don't agree with it (they know it) I still love them the same (they know this also). this is not the reply that i expected from you, but i definitely agree with it. I totally believe that it should be up to a church as to whether they'll allow it, and if not, because of their teachings, that's obviously okay. legal marriages do not have to be performed in a church. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westend1 Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 I still think we have to legalize marrying animals if we legalize gay marriage. Since you claim that we should not let the government define marriage, we should also allow people to marry animals. Please. Surely you see the difference between 2 consenting adults choosing to marry verses a pet. Right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big girl Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Upon what principles should law enactment be based? you tell me. You cant force people to follow the teachings of the bible. Our constitution states that we have freedom of and from religion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 the only thing this proves is that society's opinion has changed for a solid majority of people, and those people will backlash against politicians who in their eyes are marginalizing or discriminating against a sector of society. . I am not against gay marriage and do not care what takes place between two consenting adults. I am against promoting /glamorizing those instances by the media. I would prefer not to be told that all this is about is equal treatment. What is desired is to have better than equal treatment in order for some to feel they have been treated as equals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big girl Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 I still think we have to legalize marrying animals if we legalize gay marriage. Since you claim that we should not let the government define marriage, we should also allow people to marry animals. I thought you guys wanted less government intervention. I dont think gay marriage should be legal, but again on what grounds can you stop it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 you tell me. You cant force people to follow the teachings of the bible. Our constitution states that we have freedom of and from religion. And yet the Catholic church MUST provide birth control to its employees. Interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDOVE3 Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 :) I actually don't think the fed gov should have any business in defining marriage...if anything it should be left to the states. I would have no problem with the states being out of it as well and letting local churches/institutions marry (and be free not to marry) whom they choose. Even though I may not agree with the lifestyle, I would not want to legally restrict anyone from living it. I have family members that are gay and while I don't agree with it (they know it) I still love them the same (they know this also). My wish is that Lumberton becomes a vocal point for equal marriage. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big girl Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 And yet the Catholic church MUST provide birth control to its employees. Interesting. I dont agree with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smitty Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Please. Surely you see the difference between 2 consenting adults choosing to marry verses a pet. Right? They are both not normal and un-natural. So, how can you say one is right and one is wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDOVE3 Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 They are both not normal and un-natural. So, how can you say one is right and one is wrong? Smitty, how would you know one is "un-natural." Have you had that experience or going on hearsay? bullets13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Dove, when your mother and father raised you, were you ever, at any time, led to believe that either is normal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LumRaiderFan Posted May 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 this is not the reply that i expected from you, but i definitely agree with it. I totally believe that it should be up to a church as to whether they'll allow it, and if not, because of their teachings, that's obviously okay. legal marriages do not have to be performed in a church. I am a small gov guy... the less intrusive we can make gov, the better. The thing that makes me angriest about this article is the legislation from the bench...on ANY subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jv_coach Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 We cannot enact laws based on biblical principles. We have freedom of religion. I dont agree with gay marriage but how can it he legally banned . So the law on not murdering can not legally be banned then either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smitty Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Smitty, how would you know one is "un-natural." Have you had that experience or going on hearsay? Blue, the Bible says it's un-natural! That's all I need to know. But -- putting that aside, just think about it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big girl Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 Smitty, how would you know one is "un-natural." Have you had that experience or going on hearsay? roflmbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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