jv_coach Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 Here’s my question for the President and honest to God, I want an answer: If you were this committed to saving Sgt. Bergdahl, so that you’d break the law and let 5 mad dogs loose, then why on God’s green earth didn’t you do something to rescue the 4 Americans slaughtered at Benghazi? Why did you roll over, go to sleep, and fly off on Air Force One the next day for a Las Vegas political fundraiser instead of moving heaven and earth to save Chris Stevens, Sean Smith, Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty? That’s the real question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LumRaiderFan Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 Good question... and we still have no answer. Many would like to simply dismiss Benghazi and move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77 Posted June 14, 2014 Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 He dislikes the military and I think its pretty obvious by his actions VA being the #1 issue he even ran on this issue and did nothing, what a liar! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvc184 Posted June 14, 2014 Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 Here’s my question for the President and honest to God, I want an answer: If you were this committed to saving Sgt. Bergdahl, so that you’d break the law and let 5 mad dogs loose, then why on God’s green earth didn’t you do something to rescue the 4 Americans slaughtered at Benghazi? Why did you roll over, go to sleep, and fly off on Air Force One the next day for a Las Vegas political fundraiser instead of moving heaven and earth to save Chris Stevens, Sean Smith, Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty? That’s the real question. It is an apples and oranges question. The Bergdahl case has been brewing for years. You can't come close to comparing that to an incident that happened within hours. There simply is no comparison. westend1 and Mr. Buddy Garrity 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westend1 Posted June 14, 2014 Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 Here’s my question for the President and honest to God, I want an answer: If you were this committed to saving Sgt. Bergdahl, so that you’d break the law and let 5 mad dogs loose, then why on God’s green earth didn’t you do something to rescue the 4 Americans slaughtered at Benghazi? Why did you roll over, go to sleep, and fly off on Air Force One the next day for a Las Vegas political fundraiser instead of moving heaven and earth to save Chris Stevens, Sean Smith, Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty? That’s the real question. You don't want an answer. You just want to rant your hatred for the president. If you want an answer to your question, go read what the general who was in charge of military operations in the area had to say. He told us why there was no military response. Mr. Buddy Garrity and TxHoops 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77 Posted June 14, 2014 Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 Biggest liar to ever hold the office!jmo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westend1 Posted June 14, 2014 Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 Biggest liar to ever hold the office!jmo LOL! WE were all holding our breath to see what your opinion would be. Big girl and Mr. Buddy Garrity 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted June 14, 2014 Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 Westend, do you believe the President and his administration have misled/lied regarding any of the scandals that have unfolded over the last couple of years or do you fully accept his contentions about each of them? As a specific example, do you believe the IRS contention that suddenly, Ms. Lerners emails for a couple of years have been lost? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77 Posted June 14, 2014 Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 Just more lies! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westend1 Posted June 14, 2014 Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 Westend, do you believe the President and his administration have misled/lied regarding any of the scandals that have unfolded over the last couple of years or do you fully accept his contentions about each of them? As a specific example, do you believe the IRS contention that suddenly, Ms. Lerners emails for a couple of years have been lost? I believe that IRS workers received a directive to go after organizations that were lying about their status as non political organizations. Lazy gov workers went after low hanging fruit, which was any org that has "party" in their name. TEA party was an obvious easy target. They were lying about being non political, weren't they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77 Posted June 14, 2014 Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 And none on the other side of the aisle were? One has to be blind and deaf to not see this for what it really is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westend1 Posted June 14, 2014 Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 And none on the other side of the aisle were? One has to be blind and deaf to not see this for what it really is! So, you admit that the orgs that were targeted were lying. That's a start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted June 14, 2014 Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 I may be wrong on this but I would be willing to bet a reasonable sum that a vast majority of those "investigated " did NOT have Tea party in their titles. Can you point me toward something that will suggest otherwise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westend1 Posted June 14, 2014 Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 I may be wrong on this but I would be willing to bet a reasonable sum that a vast majority of those "investigated " did NOT have Tea party in their titles. Can you point me toward something that will suggest otherwise? I am willing to bet that a majority of those scrutinized had a political sounding name. How much are you in for? Mr. Buddy Garrity 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77 Posted June 14, 2014 Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 Are you willing to admit that Yobama has lied because there is plenty of evidence that he has or is he and his admin. just stupid? Has to be one or the other which will you choose? not so much evidence on those groups you speak of! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westend1 Posted June 15, 2014 Report Share Posted June 15, 2014 Are you willing to admit that Yobama has lied because there is plenty of evidence that he has or is he and his admin. just stupid? Has to be one or the other which will you choose? not so much evidence on those groups you speak of! Are you drunk? Mr. Buddy Garrity and Big girl 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted June 15, 2014 Report Share Posted June 15, 2014 Come on, now. Political sounding is a very relative term and one could declare almost anything as "political sounding". Sounds like you are now backing off of your original contention which was" Tea Party was an obvious easy target. Furthermore, are you trying to suggest that the only "political sounding names" were of conservative groups? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77 Posted June 15, 2014 Report Share Posted June 15, 2014 I am as sad as you guys that the first black Pres. is a liar and crook and that he could care less about the American people but it is what it is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westend1 Posted June 15, 2014 Report Share Posted June 15, 2014 Come on, now. Political sounding is a very relative term and one could declare almost anything as "political sounding". Sounds like you are now backing off of your original contention which was" Tea Party was an obvious easy target. Furthermore, are you trying to suggest that the only "political sounding names" were of conservative groups? The majority staff dug into the applications of both conservative groups and progressive groups given extra scrutiny by the IRS, but for the purposes of the analysis looked only at groups with names that included terms the IRS used for flagging. The terms included "conservative," "Tea Party," "patriot 9/12" and "progressive." The committee opted not to make any judgments about the political leanings of other groups given extra scrutiny by the IRS, sticking only with those listed on IRS "Be on the Lookout" watch lists. Should these groups get extra scrutiny when applying for tax exempt status? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted June 15, 2014 Report Share Posted June 15, 2014 Sure. What group on the left had its applications delayed 18 months or longer? Apparently you don't believe Ms. Lerner taking the fifth and the missing email have anything to do with any of this, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westend1 Posted June 15, 2014 Report Share Posted June 15, 2014 Sure. What group on the left had its applications delayed 18 months or longer? 18 months? They should have all been denied tax exempt status, What was their purpose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted June 15, 2014 Report Share Posted June 15, 2014 I very much doubt you are qualified to decide who does and who does not deserve tax exempt status. Dance around it all you want. The point of all this is that the vast majority of the investigative targets were from the right. There is nothing co-incidental about that just as there is nothing co-incidental about all the missing emails and Ms. Lerner pleading the fifth. ( and, I am pretty sure any level headed person realizes this but some will not abandon/question the cause under any circumstance) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LumRaiderFan Posted June 15, 2014 Report Share Posted June 15, 2014 So Westend, you are saying that the IRS targeted left and right groups equally...no bias at all in the investigations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted June 15, 2014 Report Share Posted June 15, 2014 :) :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westend1 Posted June 15, 2014 Report Share Posted June 15, 2014 So Westend, you are saying that the IRS targeted left and right groups equally...no bias at all in the investigations? Both you and I have no idea. if there were 10 conservative political groups applying for exempt status for every 1 liberal group, it might seem like they were targeted. Doesn't necessarily make it fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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