BLUEDOVE3 Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 If the procedure you list is correct, wouldnt following it be the most appropriate thing to do? I am not against spending funds to help circumstances such as you described above. At the same time, there is a lot of "help" given to circumstances that are NOT as you described above. I am also against expanding the number of social programs as there is overlap in the current programs and once again, since they are operated by the Federal Government, they are hardly models of efficiency and accountability as the VA debacle CLEARLY documents. Isn't it odd that some VA patients are going to be given vouchers to go elsewhere for treatment? Very ironic that the govt will now pay the private sector to handle things it cant handle. From my perspective, this country already provides a plethora of govt assistance and we ought to be seeking ways to reduce rather than increase. You never addressed the question. As far as the VA is concerned, my uncle get timely visits. So with any non-perfect system, there are always problems to fix. There was a time in America when people spoke out against our system, they were told , "Love It or Leave It." My how yall have changed. Mr. Buddy Garrity 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Very glad to hear your uncle gets timely visits Dove but it is beginning to appear that he might be an exception. Obviously he is not one of those who died waiting for an appointment. I would be willing to bet your comment " So with any non-perfect system, there are always problems to fix" would not have been the same when the hurrican flooding hit New Orleans. As for how times have changed, I agree, But my viewpoint is that they have changed where society is encouraged to believe everyone is a victim and only the government can make it right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smitty Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 That is a simplified version of it, minus the drug testing of recipients of course. I am not against mandatory drug testing, but not for the reasons most of the uninformed masses are for it. If someone tests positive, there will be more required than to simply cut off their benefits. We will end up spending more money on that family than we would if there were not drugs involved. But the kids will get to eat, and the parent will either lose their kids and their benefits, or get the help they desperately need. So, if you are for mandatory drug testing for anyone that receives taxpayer money, then one is an uninformed individual? There should be NO stipulations and exceptions. People in private industry are drug tested. If you are on any form of welfare, you should be drug tested. It is my understanding that when Florida went to drug testing for welfare, the welfare roles dropped tremendously. Imagine that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDOVE3 Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 doesn't matter what crime he commits or how bad this POTUS runs this country into the ground....he will always have those prideful supporters......true stupidity. hey dove since you support this POTUS can you please have the coaches take some of your son's hard earned playing time and spread it among the other role players..... thats only fair......how bout equal time for all players every game.....i mean in the end does it really matter.... It is spread among other role players. Hard work pays off in the end. Mr. Buddy Garrity 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 It is spread among other role players. Hard work pays off in the end. Unless the government confiscates your success jv_coach 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smitty Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Unless the government confiscates your success Yes, if the government socializes one's excess, then why should anyone continue working hard? To keep giving it to people that has not earned it? Connect the dots!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDOVE3 Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 (edited) http://youtu.be/C0giVL4j8mQ Edited June 18, 2014 by BLUEDOVE3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxHoops Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 So, if you are for mandatory drug testing for anyone that receives taxpayer money, then one is an uninformed individual? There should be NO stipulations and exceptions. People in private industry are drug tested. If you are on any form of welfare, you should be drug tested. It is my understanding that when Florida went to drug testing for welfare, the welfare roles dropped tremendously. Imagine that! You really should slow down when you read. I'm not convinced you understand half of what you read. The response above to my post is evidence that you don't. Mr. Buddy Garrity 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usedtobe Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Whoa, calling me a jackass (WITH ALL CAPS) Sounds like you hate our country as well No reply required. JA confirmed my position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smitty Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 You really should slow down when you read. I'm not convinced you understand half of what you read. The response above to my post is evidence that you don't. That is a some-what response to your post. I just used it as a lead-in to a statement of facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 Txhoops- now that we have suddenly "lost" emails by Lois Lerner but of six other related individuals, do you regard this as just a coincidence. and fully plausible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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