BLUEDOVE3 Posted June 27, 2014 Report Posted June 27, 2014 Obama trying to be slick. He knew. Yes he knew. Learned it from Bush and all other previous presidents. Mr. Buddy Garrity 1 Quote
westend1 Posted June 27, 2014 Report Posted June 27, 2014 9-0! Even the 4 uber liberal judges said the "constitutional scholar/professor" did not follow the constitution.What does the constitution say about recess appointments? Quote
Englebert Posted June 27, 2014 Report Posted June 27, 2014 What does the constitution say about recess appointments? From wikipedia...very first paragraph: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recess_appointment Quote
smitty Posted June 27, 2014 Author Report Posted June 27, 2014 Where does this leave all the different decisions put out by these "illegal" appointments to the National Labor Relations Board? They should be rule invalid! Quote
westend1 Posted June 27, 2014 Report Posted June 27, 2014 From wikipedia...very first paragraph: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recess_appointmentIt appears then, that the case hinged on the definition of "recess". Mr. Buddy Garrity 1 Quote
smitty Posted June 27, 2014 Author Report Posted June 27, 2014 It appears then, that the case hinged on the definition of "recess". Or "is!" :D Quote
Englebert Posted June 28, 2014 Report Posted June 28, 2014 It appears then, that the case hinged on the definition of "recess". Yes it did...I thought that was a given. And when you have conservatives and liberals voting unanimously the same way, you can deduce that your position wasn't even close to the same interpretation...which is remarkable considering that the wrong side came from a supposedly constitutional scholar. So what do you conclude from this...Obama knew he was wrong but tried to slide it through anyway, or was his interpretation shot down 9-0 by fellow constitutional scholars? LumRaiderFan 1 Quote
LumRaiderFan Posted June 28, 2014 Report Posted June 28, 2014 Yes it did...I thought that was a given. And when you have conservatives and liberals voting unanimously the same way, you can deduce that your position wasn't even close to the same interpretation...which is remarkable considering that the wrong side came from a supposedly constitutional scholar. So what do you conclude from this...Obama knew he was wrong but tried to slide it through anyway, or was his interpretation outvoted 9-0 by fellow constitutional scholars? So he's either corrupt or ignorant...neither are desirable for the President. Quote
stevenash Posted June 28, 2014 Report Posted June 28, 2014 RaiderFan- You have been watching too much Fox news and you are a racist. Quote
LumRaiderFan Posted June 28, 2014 Report Posted June 28, 2014 RaiderFan- You have been watching too much Fox news and you are a racist. I report...you decide. :) Quote
smitty Posted June 28, 2014 Author Report Posted June 28, 2014 So he's either corrupt or ignorant...neither are desirable for the President. I say highly corrupt and equally ignorant. ;) Quote
new tobie Posted June 28, 2014 Report Posted June 28, 2014 What does the constitution say about recess appointments? ........ http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/06/26/1309812/-How-Many-Recess-Appointments-Have-Other-Presidents-Made-Again Quote
smitty Posted June 28, 2014 Author Report Posted June 28, 2014 ........ http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/06/26/1309812/-How-Many-Recess-Appointments-Have-Other-Presidents-Made-Again From Ned in a reply to this article: "The Senate was in "pro-forma" session when President Obama made the appointments. The Constitution empowers the Congress to make its own rules, including when it is in session. Historically other Presidents, including GWB, respected the Senate's "pro forma" sessions as valid and didn't try to make appointments during those times. How often other Presidents made recess appointments, or how often appointments were filibustered or blocked in some manner, wasn't part of how all nine Justices looked at this case." Quote
smitty Posted June 28, 2014 Author Report Posted June 28, 2014 ........ http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/06/26/1309812/-How-Many-Recess-Appointments-Have-Other-Presidents-Made-Again NEW, this article is a prime example of appealing to the "Low Information Voter." This silly article does not say anything about the actual Supreme Court decision. It's trying to fool it's readers. The decision -- 9-0 -- had NOTHING to do with the right of the President to recess appointments. I hope you do realize that! Quote
westend1 Posted June 28, 2014 Report Posted June 28, 2014 Funny how nobody had a problem with recess appointments, until now. How many did Bush use without a complaint? Mr. Buddy Garrity 1 Quote
Mr. Buddy Garrity Posted June 28, 2014 Report Posted June 28, 2014 Funny how nobody had a problem with recess appointments, until now. How many did Bush use without a complaint? Westend: Ppl will complain when its not their guy. That's how it works on here. (you can use about 80% of the threads on here as evidence of that) ;) Quote
stevenash Posted June 28, 2014 Report Posted June 28, 2014 I am not up to speed on this subject. I would ask one question, though. Regardless of whose "guy" it is, did Mr. Bush get contradicted in any of the similar efforts by the Supreme Court? Quote
tvc184 Posted June 28, 2014 Report Posted June 28, 2014 Funny how nobody had a problem with recess appointments, until now. How many did Bush use without a complaint? It is a matter of following the rules or believing that you are not required to comply with the same laws. He could have simply waited until they were truly out of session but like he has done and continues to do, he makes up his own rules as he goes. He got caught this time and when the SCOTUS comes down with a 9-0 ruling, that is a pretty good affirmation that the other side is wrong. LumRaiderFan and thetragichippy 2 Quote
Big girl Posted June 28, 2014 Report Posted June 28, 2014 Funny how nobody had a problem with recess appointments, until now. How many did Bush use without a complaint? lmao Quote
Big girl Posted June 28, 2014 Report Posted June 28, 2014 It is a matter of following the rules or believing that you are not required to comply with the same laws. He could have simply waited until they were truly out of session but like he has done and continues to do, he makes up his own rules as he goes. He got caught this time and when the SCOTUS comes down with a 9-0 ruling, that is a pretty good affirmation that the other side is wrong. what you are saying is asinine. He knew he needed approval from the Supreme Court. Every executive order is reviewed. You guys were complaining about the ones that were approved by the courts Quote
Big girl Posted June 28, 2014 Report Posted June 28, 2014 You guys do know that EVERY executive order is reviewed by the SUpreme Court. Please tell me you knew this. Quote
westend1 Posted June 29, 2014 Report Posted June 29, 2014 It is a matter of following the rules or believing that you are not required to comply with the same laws. He could have simply waited until they were truly out of session but like he has done and continues to do, he makes up his own rules as he goes. He got caught this time and when the SCOTUS comes down with a 9-0 ruling, that is a pretty good affirmation that the other side is wrong.Potato, Potado 10 day break or 3 day break, its the same old politics. Mr. Buddy Garrity 1 Quote
smitty Posted June 29, 2014 Author Report Posted June 29, 2014 Westend: Ppl will complain when its not their guy. That's how it works on here. (you can use about 80% of the threads on here as evidence of that) ;) Buddy, don't tell us you think this 9-0 decision had to do with whether or not making recess appointments is legal or not. But, other other hand, yes, we claim when a President breaks the law. You should too!! Quote
westend1 Posted June 29, 2014 Report Posted June 29, 2014 Buddy, don't tell us you think this 9-0 decision had to do with whether or not making recess appointments is legal or not. But, other other hand, yes, we claim when a President breaks the law. You should too!! Try again. Nobody understands what you are saying. Mr. Buddy Garrity 1 Quote
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