Holidays

[stevenash]

Why is it that the Republicans think every day is the Fourth Of July and the Democrats think every day is April 15?

[smitty]

Why is it that the Republicans think every day is the Fourth Of July and the Democrats think every day is April 15?

Socialism/communism needs the taxman.  They can't function without it.  Why do you think the left-wingers are so opposed to moving tax day to election day?! 

[Big girl]

Socialism/communism needs the taxman. They can't function without it. Why do you think the left-wingers are so opposed to moving tax day to election day?!

you do know that communism and socialism are not the same things

[stevenash]

They are different but they are close.  Both, to a different degree, adhere to the belief that government is the answer to all ills.

[smitty]

you do know that communism and socialism are not the same things

BigGirl -- A teaching moment.  U listening?   Russia was/is communist.  Let's look at it:  USSR   Union Of Soviet SOCIALIST Republics.   BigGirl, let me ask you -- What is the third S stand for??!! 

[TxHoops]

you do know that communism and socialism are not the same things

 

By his subsequent response, the answer to your question is a resounding NO :lol:  Poor smitty....

[smitty]

By his subsequent response, the answer to your question is a resounding NO :lol:  Poor smitty....

Man, why you want to lie to BigGirl like that?!   I guess it's a liberal thing!   Hopefully she can put two and two by the correct answer I gave her.   :P

[Big girl]

By his subsequent response, the answer to your question is a resounding NO :lol: Poor smitty....

lmao

[TxHoops]

Man, why you want to lie to BigGirl like that?!   I guess it's a liberal thing!   Hopefully she can put two and two by the correct answer I gave her.   :P

 

Since you discount anything a "liberal" says, please refer to Stevenash's response.  It will put you on the right track ;)

[smitty]

Since you discount anything a "liberal" says, please refer to Stevenash's response.  It will put you on the right track ;)

Not a problem.  I agree with everything Steve says.  Why wouldn't I?  They don't call us "RIGHT" for nothing. I know it's tough to deal with the fact that Russia (communist) had Socialist in it's name.  CONNECT THE DOTS!!  If Communist Russia thought they were Socialist, then you gonna argue with them?   Meaning?  There's not that much difference between the two.  They are both evil. 

PS -- It's amazing obama hired an admitted communist to be in his administration.  I'm sure there are many more in the administration that are in the closet.    :huh: 

[stevenash]

One of Big Girls favorite tactics is to try to alter the subject matter by playing games with definitions.  Smitty suggested that both socialism and communism thrive/depend on heavy taxation or confiscation.  When Big GIrl is unable to dispute that, she plays games with semantics.  No different than when I wouldn't let her denial of the 17 trillion dollar continue, she attempted to change the name of the game to the difference between microeconomics and macroeconomics, neither of which will alter the sum of the current national debt.

[TxHoops]

I am still intrigued by the fact that smitty apparently is unable to distinguish between communism and socialism.  Say it ain't so, Joe!

[TxHoops]

By his logic, the Democratic Republic of North Korea is a democracy!  Poor smitty....

[TROJANSWIN]

The Nazis were socialists. The Russians were communists. Not really a definition, more of an example, but since you are splitting hairs about which one the democratic party is leaning towards, which of these two are you hoping our country becomes?

[stevenash]

:)

[stevenash]

TXHOOPS-  Smittys biggest concern seems to be about whether or not our country is following the constitution.  I would have thought an individual in your position would have a high degree of appreciation for that concern.

[Big girl]

Definitions are important . Plese tell me what qualities of a socialist or communist obama possesses. He is either a socialist or he is not. I have never heard obama say that he wants the government to control all forms of production. I dont think taxation had anything to do with it

[stevenash]

Big Girl- Do you believe that the government is competent at running businesses or dictating how they should be operated?  IF so, why are FedEx and UPS vibrant, well managed businesses not in danger of going broke and, at the same time, the U.S. Postal service recently defaulted on some of its debt?  One major difference- the government is involved in one of those and it isn't in the other two.  The government guaranteed 535 million of debt taken on by Solyndra who subsequently went bankrupt.  Was that a good idea or could the private market have prevented such a loss from taking place?

[TROJANSWIN]

Definitions are important . Plese tell me what qualities of a socialist or communist obama possesses. He is either a socialist or he is not. I have never heard obama say that he wants the government to control all forms of production. I dont think taxation had anything to do with it

From webster's dictionary
Socialism:1 :  any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods 2 a :  a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b :  a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state

Obama "you didn't build that, the government built it."

[stevenash]

Trojanswin- well said ( even though you still cling to you guns and bibles)

[TROJANSWIN]

I'm just a dumb ole redneck racist tea bagger. What else can I say?

If it will make big girl happy. I don't think Obama is any different than almost all of the other candidates (i leave out Ron Paul) that were originally in the primary races in 2008 or 2012. I think they are all politicians who are looking out for their best interests first, their party second, their ideology third, and the country and our people a very distant fourth!
We have to truly find someone who is not part of the Washington Political spectrum and will do what is right for America, whether their political party wants them to or not.

This is what a lot of the people who voted for Obama were looking for (other than the ones who voted for him based on race alone). Only problem is it turns out he is just like the rest of the politicians only with a different skin tone. No one spends Millions of dollars to win a job that pays $250k a year if they are not power hungry. Once they get that power, they don't want to give it up.
Obama is human, and the power has gone to his head.

[Big girl]

When has obama ever said he wanted a society without private property?

[Big girl]

When has obama ever said he wanted a society without private property?

[TROJANSWIN]

I give up! Big girl wins! But I leave you with some parting words "you can't fix stupid"!!

[Big girl]

I know, that is why I wouldn't debate with you. I asked you a simple question.