smitty Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 Appears so! Thoughts? http://www.gopusa.com/freshink/2014/07/09/birthright-citizenship-is-flatly-unconstitutional/?subscriber=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvc184 Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 I think that hinging the constitutionality of a birthright on the phrase "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof" is a losing argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDOVE3 Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 Being such a proud member of the liberal left-center with an inch towards the right, our constitutional rights must apply to everyone, no matter how unpopular the situation may be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthoftheBorder Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 Being such a proud member of the liberal left-center with an inch towards the right, our constitutional rights must apply to everyone, no matter how unpopular the situation may be. I think constitutional rights extend to citizens of the USA. However, we should extend dignity and treat fairly those who are not citizens whether they are attempting to become a citizen or merely living here peaceably and lawfully!! That would be de-facto giving them the same rights as citizens. But for those who are here unlawfully and/or are hostile to this country and its citizens, no constituional rights should be extended!!! Again that does not mean we abuse or torture them, but if they are a threat to the peace or well being of our citizens, then they have to be dealt with swiftly!!! NDNation 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDOVE3 Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 I think constitutional rights extend to citizens of the USA. However, we should extend dignity and treat fairly those who are not citizens whether they are attempting to become a citizen or merely living here peaceably and lawfully!! That would be de-facto giving them the same rights as citizens. But for those who are here unlawfully and/or are hostile to this country and its citizens, no constituional rights should be extended!!! Again that does not mean we abuse or torture them, but if they are a threat to the peace or well being of our citizens, then they have to be dealt with swiftly!!! Like the little kids crossing over? Ah okay!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LumRaiderFan Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 I think constitutional rights extend to citizens of the USA. However, we should extend dignity and treat fairly those who are not citizens whether they are attempting to become a citizen or merely living here peaceably and lawfully!! That would be de-facto giving them the same rights as citizens. But for those who are here unlawfully and/or are hostile to this country and its citizens, no constituional rights should be extended!!! Again that does not mean we abuse or torture them, but if they are a threat to the peace or well being of our citizens, then they have to be dealt with swiftly!!! I thought everybody knew that but I guess not...good post...hopefully it will educate some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthoftheBorder Posted July 11, 2014 Report Share Posted July 11, 2014 I thought everybody knew that but I guess not...good post...hopefully it will educate some. Maybe I should have inserted "only" in the first sentence! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big girl Posted July 11, 2014 Report Share Posted July 11, 2014 Can someone explain to me what the Dream Act entails. The one signed into law by Perry or was it Bush years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big girl Posted July 11, 2014 Report Share Posted July 11, 2014 It was signed by Perry in 2001. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted July 11, 2014 Report Share Posted July 11, 2014 She already knows what it is. She thinks she is setting another trap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big girl Posted July 11, 2014 Report Share Posted July 11, 2014 What is it? I dont understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted July 11, 2014 Report Share Posted July 11, 2014 Then consult with one of your MBA type friends, that you trust. It is obvious you aren't going to believe anything that anybody on this board tells you. And, of course, (although you have already done so) simply go to Wikipedia and type in Dream Act. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big girl Posted July 11, 2014 Report Share Posted July 11, 2014 Stevie, do you agree with it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted July 11, 2014 Report Share Posted July 11, 2014 Not sufficiently familiar with it to offer any thoughts. Isn't that a novel idea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthoftheBorder Posted July 11, 2014 Report Share Posted July 11, 2014 Stevie, do you agree with it? Steve/Big Girl, this is too much PDA for this board!!! LOL!!! :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big girl Posted July 11, 2014 Report Share Posted July 11, 2014 Can you please read about the "Texas Dream Act" and tell me what you think about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted July 11, 2014 Report Share Posted July 11, 2014 I will read it when I have time but right now I am trying to become more conversant with "macroeconomics" since your friend said ( with little or no knowledge of me other than what you said) I didnt understand them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big girl Posted July 11, 2014 Report Share Posted July 11, 2014 Ok.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big girl Posted July 11, 2014 Report Share Posted July 11, 2014 The measure allows undocumented immigrant students to pay in-state tuition rates if they graduated from high school or received a GED in Texas. They must have lived in the state for three years and sign an affidavit affirming that they are seeking legal residency. TEXAS DREAM ACT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big girl Posted July 11, 2014 Report Share Posted July 11, 2014 How do you guys feel about the Texas Dream Act Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted July 11, 2014 Report Share Posted July 11, 2014 Instead of asking that question in two separate threads, why not start a new one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smitty Posted July 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 How do you guys feel about the Texas Dream Act My stance on any ILLEGAL in this country is that NO ONE should receive ANY form of taxpayer money! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big girl Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Are you upset that this law was passed Smitty. How do you feel about rick perry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenash Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Big Girl- The Texas Dream Act was signed by Rick Perry but was passed with BIPARTISAN support from the Texas Legislature UNLIKE (VERY MUCH UNLIKE) The Affordable Health Care Act Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smitty Posted July 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Are you upset that this law was passed Smitty. How do you feel about rick perry? BigGirl, I am not a blind supporter. No, I did not agree with this. There were a lot of things I did not agree with GW Bush. If I can agree with 80% of my candidate, then once elected, we can always talk about the 20% we don't agree on. But -- unlike the current President, Perry, as Governor and GW Bush, as Governor and President, act like adults. And they do and did have a clue. I'm not sure this President can even buy a clue! So, although I may disagree with 20% of my candidates, they are still 1000% better obama... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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