Big girl Posted July 27, 2014 Report Posted July 27, 2014 Asians ans hispanics come over with nothing and work HARD......that may be a good business model for some to look at.....hard work and you wonder why people think you are a racist. How many Hispanics live in poverty and low income housing? Quote
PAMFAM10 Posted July 27, 2014 Report Posted July 27, 2014 Asians ans hispanics come over with nothing and work HARD......that may be a good business model for some to look at.....hard work Not slaves though people wanna make believe it was so long ago ...but even my mom can remember the whites only signs. I can give you millions of examples of racial segregation today/ I'm not using that as a excuse I'm just stating the obvious. Big girl 1 Quote
Big girl Posted July 27, 2014 Report Posted July 27, 2014 Where did these "subsidies" come from? the government Quote
stevenash Posted July 27, 2014 Author Report Posted July 27, 2014 And who is the government? What made the government provide these subsidies? Quote
Big girl Posted July 27, 2014 Report Posted July 27, 2014 Not slaves though people wanna make believe it was so long ago ...but even my mom can remember the whites only signs. I can give you millions of examples of racial segregation today/ I'm not using that as a excuse I'm just stating the obvious. He was trying to imply that all blacks are lazy, which is sooo sad. That is a myth of course. Smdh. thetragichippy 1 Quote
Big girl Posted July 27, 2014 Report Posted July 27, 2014 And who is the government? What made the government provide these subsidies? the question should be this: why are they still giving oil companies subsidies? Is it to keep the oil prices low, if that is the case then it sure is not working. Quote
stevenash Posted July 27, 2014 Author Report Posted July 27, 2014 You simply have swallowed the party line without examining the facts and coming to your own conclusion. First- A subsidy is a money provided by the government for the purpose of promoting something such as solar energy. Therefore, the oil companies do not receive subsidies. Additionally, the oil companies have available to them the same tax deductions that every other corporation in the country has access to. When you understand the difference between a subsidy and a tax deduction, you will be better equipped to then cry and bemoan the deductions that the oil companies take. All are lawful and were passed by the government. Once again, you should be very pleased that the oil companies make significant profits. Of course, what you don't consider is that they also take significant risks but that doesn't matter to you. When British Petroleum caused all that damage in the gulf last year, they were able to be financially responsible for everything without needing a government/taxpayer funded bailout and a bankruptcy. Thus they are still employing thousands of people who pay a lot of taxes based on their income. If they had not earned significant profits over the years, they would have gone under, thousands of people would have been added to the unemployment roles, and government tax revenues would have declined due to the lost jobs and the taxes paid by British Petroleum. If and when that would have taken place, the government would need more money and would cry out (with your full support) that some other industry and some group of individuals weren't paying their fair share- It never ends Honest Abe and baddog 2 Quote
Big girl Posted July 27, 2014 Report Posted July 27, 2014 HomeMore in BusinessNext ArticleAmerica's Most Obvious Tax Reform Idea: Kill the Oil and Gas Subsidies JORDAN WEISSMANNMAR 1 Google this article Quote
stevenash Posted July 27, 2014 Author Report Posted July 27, 2014 Sorry, but they are not subsidies. The complaint is about legal write offs/deductions. And the left cant stand it when somebody is doing well and it cant get its hands on more of the profits. If you will look a little further into this, you will find that the profit margins aren't nearly what you are lead to believe. Once again, instead of just looking at the profit number, you have to look at what kind of investment it took to generate that profit. Exxon profits are less than 10% of its revenues. Apple's profits are in the 25% to 30% range when compared to its revenues. Do you want to take some tax benefits away from Apple also? And why? Surely you are not naive enough to believe that that those monies, if put in the hands of the federal government, would be more productively deployed? Heck, they cant even keep track of their own emails. Quote
LumRaiderFan Posted July 27, 2014 Report Posted July 27, 2014 Subsidies, deductions... the "big majority" of low information citizens see no difference. Both fail to confiscate enough from the evil profit makers. Quote
smitty Posted July 27, 2014 Report Posted July 27, 2014 I didnt say that ge and boeing received subsidies. I said oil companies did BigGirl, so, it's OK for you to receive tax breaks and not business'? You do take tax deductions, don't you? Quote
stevenash Posted July 27, 2014 Author Report Posted July 27, 2014 The left believes it, and only it, should decide who gets deductions and in what amounts because, for some reason, they sincerely believe they know more about these things even though some of their crowd can't even preserve emails. Quote
Big girl Posted July 28, 2014 Report Posted July 28, 2014 Why does a corporation that makes billions need tax breaks or better yet why are they exempt from paying taxes at all? Subsidies is in the title of the article. Quote
77 Posted July 28, 2014 Report Posted July 28, 2014 Why does a corporation that makes billions need tax breaks or better yet why are they exempt from paying taxes at all? Subsidies is in the title of the article. Because politicians accept their bribe money! Big girl 1 Quote
stevenash Posted July 28, 2014 Author Report Posted July 28, 2014 I don't care what is in the title. The oil companies do NOT get subsidies. Once again, do you want apple to pay more taxes? They make considerably more than the oil companies. Some day, maybe, you will understand that profits are not evil but rather the producer of jobs. Would you rather have to bail them out periodically by holding down their ability to earn and reinvest monies? Quote
thetragichippy Posted July 28, 2014 Report Posted July 28, 2014 He was trying to imply that all blacks are lazy, which is sooo sad. That is a myth of course. Smdh. I said or implied nothing of the sort. It is BLACK people like you that spit out the word "racism" anytime someone disagrees or has a different opinion than you. You are the problem with racism! I stand by my statement and can prove it with data....Asians on welfare.....3.3%, Hispanics.....15.7%. My neighbor who used to own the Golden Dragon(7 years ago) worked 14-16 hours a day, 7 days a week. He was from China, his work ethic(and his wives) was better than ANYONE I know....including myself. When I worked construction, the Hispanic workers out worked 90% of the people around them. I guess your to worried about how unfair everyone is, you can't see yourself getting out performed..... Quote
thetragichippy Posted July 28, 2014 Report Posted July 28, 2014 Not slaves though people wanna make believe it was so long ago ...but even my mom can remember the whites only signs. I can give you millions of examples of racial segregation today/ I'm not using that as a excuse I'm just stating the obvious. So, what is the answer? Biggirl brags about her education and how many degree's and what a good job she has. Then she makes excuses about slavery and not being on an even playing field with the white man. If she admitted it could be done with just hard work and dedication, she couldn't use that bag of excuses she keeps with her..... so I say again......Asians and Hispanics as a group are good role models for hard work and dedication..... Disclaimer.....not ALL Asians or ALL Hispanics are good role models for hard work and dedication.....some are not... Quote
Big girl Posted July 28, 2014 Report Posted July 28, 2014 Yeah they are the job producers, because they sure employ a lot of people that dont live in America.What good is it if they are investing money in other countries Quote
Big girl Posted July 28, 2014 Report Posted July 28, 2014 Their money in banks in other countries.? Quote
Big girl Posted July 28, 2014 Report Posted July 28, 2014 So, what is the answer? Biggirl brags about her education and how many degree's and what a good job she has. Then she makes excuses about slavery and not being on an even playing field with the white man. If she admitted it could be done with just hard work and dedication, she couldn't use that bag of excuses she keeps with her..... so I say again......Asians and Hispanics as a group are good role models for hard work and dedication..... Disclaimer.....not ALL Asians or ALL Hispanics are good role models for hard work and dedication.....some are not... so you are saying that there are not any blacks that are role models for hard work and dedication? Quote
Big girl Posted July 28, 2014 Report Posted July 28, 2014 Why do asians perform better then white people. Is it because white people dont try hard enough? Quote
Big girl Posted July 28, 2014 Report Posted July 28, 2014 Because politicians accept their bribe money! yep, that is it in a nutshell Quote
thetragichippy Posted July 28, 2014 Report Posted July 28, 2014 so you are saying that there are not any blacks that are role models for hard work and dedication? Where did you get that from? I didn't mention Whites either..... Oh yea......you have an agenda.... Quote
NorthoftheBorder Posted July 28, 2014 Report Posted July 28, 2014 Where did you get that from? I didn't mention Whites either..... Oh yea......you have an agenda.... Bingo!!! thetragichippy 1 Quote
thetragichippy Posted July 28, 2014 Report Posted July 28, 2014 Why do asians perform better then white people. Is it because white people dont try hard enough? You realize I'm having fun with you trying to promote your agenda..... I never said ALL of any one race.....I'm simply stated Asains AND hispanics have a good work ethic. I don't think one race is superior to another.....I do think Asian's teach their kids to work hard....not all, but most. So, Biggirl....what made you so special? I mean, you went agianst all odds and got two degrees and a great job. lol Quote
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