Fences Don't Work?

[smitty]

I had recently posed a question:  Why did obama stop building the fence on our southern border?  Some replied that fences do not work.  Well, let me ask those that feel this:  If fences don not work -- then why doesn't obama take the fense down around the White House??  

[westend1]

because it's a real fense(ha ha)   not a virtual fence.    Are you truly that dumb?

[Big girl]

yes, he is. :D

[TROJANSWIN]

because it's a real fense(ha ha) not a virtual fence. Are you truly that dumb?

I have a virtual fence I use with my dog and it works just fine. Come over and I'll let you and big girl try it out. It's an imaginary line you cantcrosswithout consequences, kind of like a border!

[westend1]

dude.  Would love to come over and defeat your virtual fence.    Not really scared of your internet consequences.

[TROJANSWIN]

Not Internet consequences! When you cross the imaginary line it shocks the mess out of you! Works off a radio signal and a receiver in a shock collar. Virtual fence, but very effective.

[TROJANSWIN]

By the way, Fort Knox is protectedby a virtual fence that a bunch of armed guards respond to. (Similar to parts of the border fence).Contains a huge amount of gold in a wide open field. Yet it has never been robbed, fence must be working??

[westend1]

Man, just go read about the problems with the virtual fence.   It didn't work and it was mucho expensive.   Fort Knox gold is not protected by a virtual fence.  Have you ever been there?

[smitty]

yes, he is. :D

I believe it was you that said fences do not work.     ;)

[smitty]

because it's a real fense(ha ha)   not a virtual fence.    Are you truly that dumb?

Some are real and some are virtual.  So, you would be for continuing to build a "real" fence to stop the invasion? 

[westend1]

Sure.  if we had the money.   Plus, you would have to convince the ranchers who rely on water from the Rio Grande.

[stevenash]

If we had the money?  When did that ever stop us from doing anything?

[CraigS]

If we had the money?  When did that ever stop us from doing anything

The fence would "pay for itself" in a very short time in savings (from not having to provide all the social welfare to ILLEGALS. 

[5GallonBucket]

protect the borders by ANY MEANS NECESSARY will decrease the ILLEGALs from coming over.

 

do any of the left know what ILLEGAL means....we have dictionaries available on the web

 

the left like to be taken advantage of because that is how they get votes and power....sad sad sad.

 

Saying "NO" to people/countries is a good thing.  Just like children learning the word 'NO'

[smitty]

Man, just go read about the problems with the virtual fence.   It didn't work and it was mucho expensive.   Fort Knox gold is not protected by a virtual fence.  Have you ever been there?

I applaud your your new-found fiscal conservatism.  But, as we have taught on this forum, protection is a Constitutional responsibility of the Feds.  So, here's a novel approach:  Let's shift some money around to pay for it.  Again, an actual fence does work.  Again, the White House example.  How about we start with the obama phones?  There's 2 Billion dollars right there.  2 Billion could build a lot of fence.  Need more money?  I know there's many, many other areas that money is spent that's not Constitutional.

[westend1]

So, if we were to spend billions on a real fence, what do you tell the ranchers who just got cut off from their water supply?    Should we just condemn their land?

[stevenash]

I have got a feeling that there are still ways to access the water, fence or no fence.

[jv_coach]

IF A GOVERNMENT CAN NOT SECURE THEIR BORDERS THEN THEY ARE NOT A  SOVEREIGN GOVERNMENT. DO WE KNOW UNDERSTAND WHY THE OBAMANATION DOES NOT WANT TO STOP BUT RATHER ENCOURAGE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.

 

I AM NOT YELLING I JUST LEFT THE CAPS ON BY MISTAKE:)   

[TROJANSWIN]

Man, just go read about the problems with the virtual fence. It didn't work and it was mucho expensive. Fort Knox gold is not protected by a virtual fence. Have you ever been there?

Been there 3 times, how about you? You ever been there? The gold depository sits in the middle of an open field, it has a small fence around it, and is loaded with motion sensors. It is protected by a virtual fence! When the sensors go off, it triggers a response from the guards stationed at the base. Just like the border sensors do.

[TROJANSWIN]

Sure. if we had the money. Plus, you would have to convince the ranchers who rely on water from the Rio Grande.

In most places the Rio Grande is less than a foot deep along the Texas border. Very few ranchers get water from the river. Most of them are restricted from using the water at all, because we have to guarantee Mexico a certain water flow. The ranchers already have fences up to keep their animals out of the river, otherwise they would not have any cattle left. They would all be in Mexico!

[westend1]

I think you are wrong.   First, to call a 10 fence with armed guards a small fence is just dumb.   And ranchers make more money off hunting rights than they do cattle.     What happens when deer and other game cant get to the river?      Genius idea.

[bullets13]

We don't need a fence. We need a system in place that properly taxes immigrants and does not reward them with freebies and handouts when they get here. If someone wants to move to the US and become a productive, taxpaying member of society, great! All of us on here come from families of immigrants, unless we have some pure native Americans on here I don't know about. But their being here should be at a benefit to our country, not a detriment. We should be making tax dollars off of them, not spending tax dollars on them. An aside to that, criminals need to be deported. You want to live here, you get one chance to follow the rules.

[thetragichippy]

Google Fort Knox and read about it......2 Virtual fences with sensors, trip wires, possible land mines, AND a 10' fence.......

[CraigS]

We don't need a fence. We need a system in place that properly taxes immigrants and does not reward them with freebies and handouts when they get here. If someone wants to move to the US and become a productive, taxpaying member of society, great! All of us on here come from families of immigrants, unless we have some pure native Americans on here I don't know about. But their being here should be at a benefit to our country, not a detriment. We should be making tax dollars off of them, not spending tax dollars on them. An aside to that, criminals need to be deported. You want to live here, you get one chance to follow the rules.

The best post you have ever posted.....

 

I would add one thing to this....severe punishment (fines, loss of drivers license, and/or any other state or federal assisance, including prison if multiple offenses) to those who hire the illegals

[5GallonBucket]

here here  Bullets and Craig

 

right on