Big girl Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 George Bush was governor of Texas for 8 years and President for 8 years . Why didn't he do anything to stop the border crisis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetragichippy Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 Maybe because 8 months into his first term terrorist flew 4 planes into three buildings and one empy field. Then he spent the next 8 years setting up policies to keep America safe..... He also invaded a country in 30 days and captured it's leader Saddam Hussein. He was a bad man. During UN inspections in 1998, it emerged that Hussein had had prisoners tied to stakes and bombarded with anthrax and chemical weapons for experimental purposes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big girl Posted July 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 I why didn't he fix the undocumented immigrant problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big girl Posted July 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 Since he is a bad man. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetragichippy Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 I'll make it simple.... Saddam was the bad man....... Bush was not playing golf, he was protecting America. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77 Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 Why hasnt the current loser fixed the border? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthoftheBorder Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 There weren't tens of thousands of minors streaming accross the border unaccompanied by their parents during those 16 years. So, lets just clear the deck right now on all issues!!! Let's just say right now that George Bush was the worst president ever!! What now, with only 2 years remaining, will Barack Obama do to fix the economy, the border, and the ever growing multiple interational crisis that could throw the world into chaos. Remember, George Bush is not president and he can do nothing about any of these things anymore. Moreover, do not give the excuse that Republicans are preventing him from doing anything. GREAT LEADERS overcome obstacles and galvanize the support of their opponents to get the right things done!!! Now I will sit back and wait for the unsual morass of exuses and hyperbole!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new tobie Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 I'll make it simple.... Saddam was the bad man....... Bush was not playing golf, he was protecting America. ....http://liberalbias.com/post/2039/obama-takes-more-vacations-than-any-modern-president/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LumRaiderFan Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 I wish he would go on vacation and stay there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetragichippy Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 ....http://liberalbias.com/post/2039/obama-takes-more-vacations-than-any-modern-president/ Different...... It’s worth noting that there was a difference in the two presidents’ patterns of vacations. As the USA Today article noted, Obama doesn’t own a vacation home, unlike Bush, who owned his ranch. So while Bush essentially used the ranch as as a working White House, Obama has traveled to a variety of destinations, including his native Hawaii. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5GallonBucket Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 THE problem is a lot worse now then when he was in office. But to this day I wish BUSH would have done something and maybe just maybe we wouldn't have the problem we are having now. its the one issue I hold against Bush, but overall a lot better pres then the one we have now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetragichippy Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 THE problem is a lot worse now then when he was in office. But to this day I wish BUSH would have done something and maybe just maybe we wouldn't have the problem we are having now. its the one issue I hold against Bush, but overall a lot better pres then the one we have now. He was not perfect.....but he was a leader! and still to this day did not blame ANYTHING on past Presidents smitty, LumRaiderFan and 5GallonBucket 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5GallonBucket Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 exacto hippy thetragichippy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big girl Posted July 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 He had 16 yrs to do something and didn't, yet you guys complain about the President Obama. Obama took out bin laden. He is bad man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PN-G bamatex Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 You know, it's funny you should bring up this subject. It was actually the focal point of one of my research projects last year. Iraq or no Iraq, Bush tried to do something about immigration reform. Look up the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, which was a bipartisan piece of legislation introduced in the Senate in 2006 at the urging of the Bush administration. Its counterpart never passed the House because of partisan bickering. President Bush talks about that legislation specifically in his memoir, Decision Points. It was modeled in part after the successful Bracero Program implemented by Franklin Roosevelt and killed by Lyndon Johnson. Frankly, it was the best compromise ever proposed in this country on the immigration issue, and it passed the Senate with a strong margin. Had it passed the House, it likely would have quelled the immigration problem before it became a crisis. thetragichippy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetragichippy Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 He had 16 yrs to do something and didn't, yet you guys complain about the President Obama. Obama took out bin laden. He is bad man. 16 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big girl Posted July 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 16 years . He was governor of Texas for 8 and the president for 8. You guys are saying he tried, but he was unsuccessful so you give him a pass. The President is trying, but congress won't help so you guys complain . Does that sound reasonable? PAMFAM10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PN-G bamatex Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 16 years? She thinks he could have passed immigration reform as Governor of Texas. thetragichippy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetragichippy Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 She thinks he could have passed immigration reform as Governor of Texas. lol.....ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PN-G bamatex Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 16 years . He was governor of Texas for 8 and the president for 8. You guys are saying he tried, but he was unsuccessful so you give him a pass. The President is trying, but congress won't help so you guys complain . Does that sound reasonable? Not the same thing. President Bush put together a compromise that won bipartisan support in the upper house. The word "compromise" isn't in President Obama's dictionary; he prefers to make demands and then blame Republicans for their inability to pass in Congress. The funny thing about it is, with the way the political landscape is in Congress right now, if President Obama actually tried a compromise along the lines of President Bush's proposal, he might just be able to get it passed and salvage his dismal legislative record. thetragichippy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetragichippy Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 She thinks he could have passed immigration reform as Governor of Texas. How you been? You got your PHD yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LumRaiderFan Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 Big Girl was critical of Perry for trying to do something about the illegals and critical of Bush for doing nothing (so she thinks). One might get the impression that no matter what a Republican does, to her, it will be wrong. PN-G bamatex 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PN-G bamatex Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 How you been? You got your PHD yet? Thinking more along the lines of a JD at the moment, but that's still a year away. Fine, otherwise. You? thetragichippy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthoftheBorder Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 Bamakid, she just ignores any reasonalbe and intellegent response that does not fit her ideological positions and keeps on saying the same things over and over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvc184 Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 I why didn't he fix the undocumented immigrant problem? As a governor he had no authority as many on the left point out when states try to enact laws dealing with illegal aliens. I can tell you from a law enforcement standpoint that when i arrested an illegal alien for anything (even a traffic citation) we could put a immigration hold on them for deportation. I stopped a couple of guys one time working at a local chemical plant after someone thought that they were suspicious. I had no crimes to arrest either of them but called INS (now ICE) and spoke directly to a local federal agent on my cell phone. Both had been in country for a few years and had been working at the plant. Both were arrested for immigration violations and brought in for processing and deportation. Today we can catch an illegal alien in even fairly serious crimes and cannot put a hold on them. The local agents cannot makes such decisions and have to call Houston and ask for permission to investigate them. Previously any INS/ICE agent could detain a person for up to 24 hours to determine his status. Now they can hardly even talk to local law enforcement about illegal aliens because the current administration has changed the rules of enforcement.... not the law but merely how it is applied or more correctly, ignored. To put it simply, under Bush or even Clinton, we could get illegal aliens deported or at least investigated. Under Obama that is simply not the case. If they aren't being held for at least a felony, they are free to go. They readily admit that they are illegal as they have no consequences. BearBryant 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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