George bush and the border

[thetragichippy]

You have stated mere fox news talking points.. smh

 

talking points......that's what you think those are....lol

 

That was facts and history of what happened and what is probably going to happen.

 

You really don't get it.....

[smitty]

talking points......that's what you think those are....lol

 

That was facts and history of what happened and what is probably going to happen.

 

You really don't get it.....

Like we say -- Low Information Voter...

[bullets13]

If one president doesn't act on a major problem, that does not excuse the next president to also not act on that problem. That being said, most of the "identical" situations that are posed in these threads of Big Girl's have obvious and fundamental differences which are pointed out, and then blindly ignored.

[PN-G bamatex]

If one president doesn't act on a major problem, that does not excuse the next president to also not act on that problem. That being said, most of the "identical" situations that are posed in these threads of Big Girl's have obvious and fundamental differences which are pointed out, and then blindly ignored.

 

 

And Big Girl, before you go calling this guy "ignorant" and "racist" and whatever else, know that he voted for Obama in 2008.

[PAMFAM10]

Yes Obama is the president for another two years of being a lame duck and there is nothing we can do about that.
When Obama was in his first two years of office the Republicans tried to block several pieces of legislation, most notably Obamacare. That is when the Dems had the super majority and could pass any legislation it wanted but the Republicans kept trying to throw up roadblocks.
Representative Elijah Cummings (D) a couple of times in a fairly angry tone got on the television and denounced the Republicans by saying something like, "We won and you lost and we are now in control. That is the way this works".
Yes Elijah, that is the way it works. Historically there has been compromise on legislation being passed but now the Dems had the ultimate power for two years. Of course they wasted it and passed only one piece if real legislation, Obamacare.
They were promptly hit with the midterms in 2010 where the public greeted their legislative prowess with a stunning reversal in Congress in a historic switch in the House. Yes, Obama is the president for another two years of being a lame duck.
The Republicans made good strides in the Senate and took away their filibuster proof majority. The only reason the did not take over the Senate was because only 1/3 of senators is ever up for reelection at one time but that again is the rules.
Since Obamacare the Republicans have held a firm grip on the House. The president or Dems can get nothing passed into law for the last six years of Obama's presidency without Republican consent and it is driving them crazy. Simply put, House elections are local to each area and a majority of the American public has rejected the Dems leadership in passing laws. Yes, Obama got a huge 51% if the vote in 2012 and will now finish out his term however he faces the prospect of losing the Senate also in a couple of months.
His power has been stripped and he has resorted to illegal executive orders, some if which have been thrown out by the Supreme Court with likely more to follow (3 losses in the last month). That fact has Obama and the Dems outraged but in the words of Elijah Cummings (now coming back to haunt the Dems), we won and you lost. The Republicans now hold a solid majority in the House and (thank you Mr. Cummings) that us the way this works giving the Republicans overwhelming control. 
If the Republicans take over the Senate in November and take full control of Congress, Obama can get his pen in hand (as he loves to say) but this time to issue veto after veto as the Republicans will be sending him law after law. Remember, that is the way this works as Mr. Cummings so eloquently pointed out. But wait, can't the Dem senators simply filibuster? Oops.... Harry Reid and the Dems voted a rules change when they didn't like the Republicans legally blocking legislation (again within the rules) so they changed the rules in mid stream. They were warned not to let the genie out of the bottle as it would come back to haunt them. Now they are desperately praying to hang on to the Senate or face a nightmare in legislation that they created when they couldn't play within the rules.
But Obama will still be the president. Let's see how that works our for him with his poll numbers now down into the 30's in many areas.
And again in the words of Dem spokesman Elijah Cummings, Obama won and is the president........ but he will be stripped of almost all power except the veto and that is the rules.

your proud of this.

[tvc184]

your proud of this.

 

Proud to state the truth? Not really. 

 

Happy that the American people have stripped Obama's power after he and the Democrats went against the will of the people in passing Obamacare and promptly made a 63 seat swing in the House of Representative? You bet. 

 

I won't make any predictions on what the future may hold as we don't know what will happen in the next 24 months that can change it one way or the other. Obama might just be recreating the circumstances that got him in power in the first place but in reverse. Bush made some political moves that were not popular at the end of his last term and he lost support of the people. It made many people angry and created the perfect storm for a junior senator with almost no experience to leap to the forefront (along with some inside politics since Hillary actually got more popular vote in the primaries). The next Republican candidate whoever it is might be walking into the same angry public on the other side. 

[PAMFAM10]

No no no ....Bush was seen as and I say seen as the president who started a pointless war American was tired of. And seen as they guy who led us into recession under his watch. I know it's hopefully thinking but no it will not be the same. Not even close. Gay rights, abortion, immigration, and economy will be what people vote on.

[tvc184]

No no no ....Bush was seen as and I say seen as the president who started a pointless war American was tired of. And seen as they guy who led us into recession under his watch. I know it's hopefully thinking but no it will not be the same. Not even close. Gay rights, abortion, immigration, and economy will be what people vote on.

Your last statement is likely true and it might spell doom for the Dens this go round.

[stevenash]

PamFAm-  Bush did NOT cause the recession.( it's known as the cyclicality of an economy)  If he did, then Clinton caused the one that Bush came in to deal with when he won his first term.  Would you like to compare the Bush "recovery" to the Obama "recovery"?

[BearBryant]

Big girl calling others "nut jobs"? LOL  Nobody is nuttier than she. 

[PAMFAM10]

PamFAm-  Bush did NOT cause the recession.( it's known as the cyclicality of an economy)  If he did, then Clinton caused the one that Bush came in to deal with when he won his first term.  Would you like to compare the Bush "recovery" to the Obama "recovery"?

I'm getting real tired of asking you can you read do you even try to comprehend or did you just read bush + recession. Go read my post and try again.

[Eagle11]

PamFam said....."Gay rights, abortion, immigration and economy will be what the people vote on"

 

This is a sad, pathetic statement......no offense PamFam, it is the statement not the person I am upset at.........we can go $40 gazillion into debt as long as we get gay rights and amnesty.............truly sad. We need to get us a leader that will concentrate on the economy, get our foreign policy back in order and keep the government out of our everyday lives.

 

The really sad part is.....PamFam is more than likely right........social issues, the feel good stuff is what the younger generation is worried about. We need to worry about the important things.

[PAMFAM10]

I'm not saying that should be what get votes I'm just saying it will be what gets votes.

[stevenash]

Once you have the majority depending on the government ( and we are very close to being there), like it or not, the majority is going to vote for the guy who promises the most in terms of "free stuff" ( which sadly, is not free at all and has a very high price but most are unwilling to try to understand that and are also unwilling to give up any portion of what has already been given to them)