baddog Posted August 17, 2014 Report Posted August 17, 2014 Thanks Hippy. Plenty of time to change shoes. Why would that make any difference anyway? Mistaken identity? People grasping at straws.
thetragichippy Posted August 17, 2014 Report Posted August 17, 2014 Thanks Hippy. Plenty of time to change shoes. Why would that make any difference anyway? Mistaken identity? People grasping at straws. Anything to give reasonable doubt...... Even the level headed posters seem to be blinded by all garbage that is being put out
Big girl Posted August 17, 2014 Report Posted August 17, 2014 While everything is speculation at this point, let's just look at the facts we do know. We have a teen who just robbed and assaulted a store manager. Michael has a previous FELONY criminal record. (see below) Michael Brown’s ADULT criminal record: Description: Burglary – 1st Degree { Felony B RSMo: 569.160 } Date: 11/02/2013 Code: 1401000 OCN: AJ006207 Arresting Agency: ST ANN PD Description: Armed Criminal Action { Felony Unclassified RSMo: 571.015 } Date: 11/02/2013 Code: 3101000 OCN: AJ006207 Arresting Agency: ST ANN PD Description: Assault 1st Degree – Serious Physical Injury { Felony A RSMo: 565.050 } Date: 11/02/2013 Code: 1301100 OCN: AJ006207 Arresting Agency: ST ANN PD Description: Armed Criminal Action { Felony Unclassified RSMo: 571.015 } Date: 11/02/2013 Code: 3101000 OCN: AJ006207 Arresting Agency: ST ANN PD The cop has been with the force 6 years with no issues...... I need more facts to make a decision..... george Zimmerman had a criminal record too, but you managed to ignore that.
PAMFAM10 Posted August 17, 2014 Report Posted August 17, 2014 What difference does it makes if he wrongfully killed a college student or a guy with a criminal record both sides are guilty of trying to paint a picture of a guy they dont know....only thing that matters was if the officer was in the wrong or not. Lets stop picking sides until we get more information. Sports10, baddog, smitty and 3 others 6
thetragichippy Posted August 17, 2014 Report Posted August 17, 2014 george Zimmerman had a criminal record too, but you managed to ignore that. I believe those charges were dropped. Fact check me..... I've also said we don't have enough facts to make a decision....just pointing out the FACTS Honest Abe 1
baddog Posted August 17, 2014 Report Posted August 17, 2014 Here are my scenarios... 1. Cop was having a bad day and decided to take it out on this kid. (sounds stupid just to say that) 2. Cop confronted the kid and kid made a gesture like he had a gun. (very possible) 3. Cop confronted the kid and kid had a gun. (evidence shows this is highly possible, at least a gun was reported found) 4. Cop assisted suicide. (who knows) 5. Cop confronted the kid, kid raised his hands in the air, cop shot him (sounds stupid just to say that)
Big girl Posted August 17, 2014 Report Posted August 17, 2014 Why? Oh I forgot cops dont kill innocent people. I have not heard anything in regards to an altercation between the cop and the kid. Someone made a comment about him having time to change his shoes. How was changing his shoes going to mask his identity? I could see if he put on a wig or something.
baddog Posted August 17, 2014 Report Posted August 17, 2014 Exactly, how was changing his shoes going to change anything, hence my questioning why it would even be an issue. Oh the wonderful powers of reasoning that come with possessing two degrees. Why do you keep using the word innocent? Do you know something that I don't? Honest Abe 1
Big girl Posted August 18, 2014 Report Posted August 18, 2014 Someone was asking why he had on different shoes, possibly questioning the validity of the video.Anoter person said because of the timeline he had time to change his shoes. I was wondering why he would take the time to change his shoes.
Big girl Posted August 18, 2014 Report Posted August 18, 2014 Exactly, how was changing his shoes going to change anything, hence my questioning why it would even be an issue. Oh the wonderful powers of reasoning that come with possessing two degrees. Why do you keep using the word innocent? Do you know something that I don't? I said cops sometime kill innocent people. You cant dispute that.
Big girl Posted August 18, 2014 Report Posted August 18, 2014 I wasnt talking about this situation. I dont know enough yet, but I dont find it inconceivable that a cop would kill an innocent person.
baddog Posted August 18, 2014 Report Posted August 18, 2014 I wasnt talking about this situation. I dont know enough yet, but I dont find it inconceivable that a cop would kill an innocent person. Same mentality Susan Smith used when she had drowned her two kids and said she was carjacked by a black man. Do black people car jack?....YES! Then why was she so wrong? You are doing the same thing I come home and change shoes all the time.
thetragichippy Posted August 18, 2014 Report Posted August 18, 2014 Why? Oh I forgot cops dont kill innocent people. I have not heard anything in regards to an altercation between the cop and the kid. Someone made a comment about him having time to change his shoes. How was changing his shoes going to mask his identity? I could see if he put on a wig or something. I thought we would look at the facts...... On average, local police forces kill 400 people every year in the Unites States, according to a seven-year FBI study. About a fourth of those annual incidents — about 96 a year, or two every week — involve a white officer and a black victim, USA Today reported. So, of all the officer shootings only 25% involve a white officer and a black victim........... There was 11,078 gun involved homicides in 2013......96 involved a white officer and a black victim...that's .86% of total homicides in the U.S......the 400 only make up 3.61% of all gun related homicides...... Statistics report, more than 90% of black murder victims are killed by other black people. So, I have not heard any comments or post or tweets about the other 304 Non Black police shooting victims in 2013. Why?? http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/local-cops-kill-400-people-year-report-article-1.1904876#ixzz3AhHGxclq http://blogs.kqed.org/lowdown/2013/03/07/u-s-gun-deaths-visualizing-the-numbers/ http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/24/black-america-2013_n_3639934.html Honest Abe 1
thetragichippy Posted August 18, 2014 Report Posted August 18, 2014 I said cops sometime kill innocent people. You cant dispute that. and sometimes black males attack police officers. and sometimes white males attack police offices. and sometimes hispanic males attack police officers So, which one was it this time? Honest Abe 1
bullets13 Posted August 18, 2014 Report Posted August 18, 2014 Did he assault the police officer? Is this fact or mere conjecture? The penalty for stealing cigarettes is less punitive then a charge of assaulting a police officer. That's why I find it hard to believe that he attacked an officer, because he was afraid of going to jail for stealing cigarettes. Why is it harder for you to believe that a criminal who had just committed an assault and robbery might assault an officer than it is for you to believe that an officer with 6 years of spotless service would shoot an unarmed teen for no reason? Honest Abe 1
bullets13 Posted August 18, 2014 Report Posted August 18, 2014 And why are we still debating whether or not he committed a robbery? I saw an interview with his buddy's lawyer admitting it happened.
Baba Ganoush Posted August 18, 2014 Report Posted August 18, 2014 Only one person "debating" that. thetragichippy 1
Big girl Posted August 18, 2014 Report Posted August 18, 2014 Same mentality Susan Smith used when she had drowned her two kids and said she was carjacked by a black man. Do black people car jack?....YES! Then why was she so wrong? You are doing the same thing I come home and change shoes all the time. what are you talking about or do you know? I said I dont know all of the facts and I said cops do kill innocent people. I didnt mention anyone of any particular race. Who said he had time to go home?
Big girl Posted August 18, 2014 Report Posted August 18, 2014 I said I have NOT read anything that said there was an altercation as of yet. I did not say it didnt occur. :)
Big girl Posted August 18, 2014 Report Posted August 18, 2014 Michael Brown's Family: What Else Do They Need To Arrest Killer Of Our Son? Aug 18, 2014 12:59 pm Www.Huffington post com according to the autopsy report there was not any evidence of a struggle.
Bobcat1 Posted August 18, 2014 Report Posted August 18, 2014 Michael Brown death: Autopsy unlikely to settle dueling narratives http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/18/us/michael-brown-family-autopsy/index.html
Eagle11 Posted August 18, 2014 Report Posted August 18, 2014 So by Big Gurl's analysis......... Officer: "Hey son, what did you steal?" Bad Guy: "Oh, I ain't sure, about $50 worth of cigars." Officer: "Oh, Ok, my bad........if that is all, you are good to go. Sorry for bothering you"
Bobcat1 Posted August 18, 2014 Report Posted August 18, 2014 On CNN right now - The officer states Brown punched him in the face and grabbed for his gun.
Big girl Posted August 18, 2014 Report Posted August 18, 2014 So.....what do you guys proposed happened. I am telling you what the article states. There were also witnesses. I still need more facts. The chief of police said that the officer that shot Brown knew nothing about the robbery. Why are you guys so defensive?
Big girl Posted August 18, 2014 Report Posted August 18, 2014 On CNN right now - The officer states Brown punched him in the face and grabbed for his gun. what do you expect him to say. "Yes, I shot him in cold blood"
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