BearWolf Posted September 2, 2014 Report Posted September 2, 2014 He was not rated a 5* quarterback. He may have been a 3* when he signed. Stars will not matter this weekend...its next man to man up. Now is the time to prove himself. whatnamecanipick 1 Quote
whatnamecanipick Posted September 2, 2014 Report Posted September 2, 2014 Stars will not matter this weekend...its next man to man up. Now is the time to prove himself. BigPanther you are so right. The season is among us and recruiting ranks and signing classes mean nothing. Only their on-field performance. It is time to grow a set or go home. Spoken like a true CFBG Quote
Eagle11 Posted September 2, 2014 Report Posted September 2, 2014 Big Panther is correct..........right now on the 40 acres it doesn't matter if he is a 1 star or 5...........time to step up and drive the ship. I feel bad for Ash......good kid and an above average QB but as a dad, I cannot imagine his folks letting him play another snap. Quote
AggiesAreWe Posted September 2, 2014 Report Posted September 2, 2014 Big Panther is correct..........right now on the 40 acres it doesn't matter if he is a 1 star or 5...........time to step up and drive the ship. I feel bad for Ash......good kid and an above average QB but as a dad, I cannot imagine his folks letting him play another snap. I hear ya. Be curios to see how this is handled going forward. Got to be weighing heavy on the parents. Quote
Peppermint Patty Posted September 2, 2014 Report Posted September 2, 2014 I hear ya. Be curios to see how this is handled going forward. Got to be weighing heavy on the parents. Sometimes it's harder for the parents to let go than it is the kid. As a university subject to liability issues, UT needs to make the decision for him. Quote
Eagle11 Posted September 2, 2014 Report Posted September 2, 2014 I agree Pats2.............it appears he is one hit away from possibly being hurt severely Quote
whatnamecanipick Posted September 2, 2014 Report Posted September 2, 2014 I do not believe that UT Medical will ever release him. The coaching staff should make plans now to continue without him, then if he returns, it is a bonus. The last time Texas started a 6' 5" sophomore QB, they had pretty good results. A Rose Bowl victory over Michigan, and "I'll be back". Quote
OldTimer Posted September 2, 2014 Report Posted September 2, 2014 Sometimes it's harder for the parents to let go than it is the kid. As a university subject to liability issues, UT needs to make the decision for him. I agree - no game or the potential financial rewards if good enough are worth the pains that another clear hit could cause. Quote
Peppermint Patty Posted September 3, 2014 Report Posted September 3, 2014 UT Off Coordinator has not "ruled out' Ash playing again this season. Not a good sign. Hopefully they are just saying that up front knowing it should not happen. Quote
whatnamecanipick Posted September 3, 2014 Report Posted September 3, 2014 UT Off Coordinator has not "ruled out' Ash playing again this season. Not a good sign. Hopefully they are just saying that up front knowing it should not happen. Wickline/Watson are not making game plans around Ash. There is too much at stake. The possibility of a medical release is less than the Longhorns playing for NC this year. Quote
Peppermint Patty Posted September 3, 2014 Report Posted September 3, 2014 Wickline/Watson are not making game plans around Ash. There is too much at stake. The possibility of a medical release is less than the Longhorns playing for NC this year. I understand that, but do not encourage him to return. Quote
cougar14 Posted September 4, 2014 Report Posted September 4, 2014 He was not rated a 5* quarterback. He may have been a 3* when he signed. You obviously don't know what you're talking about. In the initial ESPN rankings he was rated a 5* and the number 9 prospect overall in the country. After the Elite 11 camp at the Opening he was reclassified at an "athlete" and given 4 stars. He was never a three star anything, this is his rating when he signed with Texas - http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/player/_/id/140420/tyrone-swoopes http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1072143-5-star-qb-tyrone-swoopes-commits-to-texas-how-big-is-this-for-the-longhorns https://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1312660 I can keep going but I think you get the point, know your stuff before you make definitive statements Quote
PhatMack19 Posted September 4, 2014 Author Report Posted September 4, 2014 You obviously don't know what you're talking about. In the initial ESPN rankings he was rated a 5* and the number 9 prospect overall in the country. After the Elite 11 camp at the Opening he was reclassified at an "athlete" and given 4 stars. He was never a three star anything, this is his rating when he signed with Texas - http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/player/_/id/140420/tyrone-swoopeshttp://bleacherreport.com/articles/1072143-5-star-qb-tyrone-swoopes-commits-to-texas-how-big-is-this-for-the-longhornshttps://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1312660 I can keep going but I think you get the point, know your stuff before you make definitive statements Going 1-9 his senior year didn't help his star ranking. You would think an all world athlete playing QB could win more than 1 game by himself at the 2a level. Quote
TxHoops Posted September 4, 2014 Report Posted September 4, 2014 You would think an all world athlete playing QB could win more than 1 game by himself at the 2a level. I've said the same thing many times. Except I thought it was a 1a school? I could be wrong. On the downside, reports are he has struggled (to put it nicely) in practice this week. Quote
whatnamecanipick Posted September 5, 2014 Report Posted September 5, 2014 I've said the same thing many times. Except I thought it was a 1a school? I could be wrong. On the downside, reports are he has struggled (to put it nicely) in practice this week. People should be excied to see Lou Holtz's grandson. Lou and Coach Strong are tight. Quote
cougar14 Posted September 5, 2014 Report Posted September 5, 2014 Going 1-9 his senior year didn't help his star ranking. You would think an all world athlete playing QB could win more than 1 game by himself at the 2a level. They actually dropped his star ranking before his senior season started after the camp circuit. My wife is from Sherman which is not too far from Whitewright. While we were up there visiting on time my brother in law told me I needed to see this big qb that was killing folks up there at this little 2a school. I highly doubted I was going to be impressed. I then watched him rush for almost 550 yards and 7tds and throw for like 150 against Tom Bean I believe. I saw him throw it 50+ yards on a rope rolling to his right and the kid just dropped it. Going 1-9 wasn't really his fault, his team was awful and some folks say they were saving him because he had already committed to UT and they knew he would early enroll. Probably still should have won more games, IJS in his defense those were the issues. Quote
TxHoops Posted September 5, 2014 Report Posted September 5, 2014 People should be excied to see Lou Holtz's grandson. Lou and Coach Strong are tight. Kid is getting zero reps in practice though. Swoopes has been struggling but Heard has reportedly been significantly worse. Quote
Peppermint Patty Posted September 5, 2014 Report Posted September 5, 2014 Kid is getting zero reps in practice though. Swoopes has been struggling but Heard has reportedly been significantly worse. Coaches have said Heard is not an option. Swoopes will be fine. In Charlie we trust. Quote
whatnamecanipick Posted September 5, 2014 Report Posted September 5, 2014 Kid is getting zero reps in practice though. Swoopes has been struggling but Heard has reportedly been significantly worse. PhatMack reported a couple weeks ago how good Holtz was doing. I believe. Quote
TxHoops Posted September 5, 2014 Report Posted September 5, 2014 PhatMack reported a couple weeks ago how good Holtz was doing. I believe. He did get a B+ for his impersonation of Taysom Hill on the scout team this week. Quote
Roper84 Posted September 5, 2014 Report Posted September 5, 2014 People should be excied to see Lou Holtz's grandson. Lou and Coach Strong are tight. "Daddy Ball"? I expect more from 3* Char! Quote
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