annexation

[thetragichippy]

Bama kid now understands how I feel trying to discuss politics and economics with more of the "birther" types around here :P
 

 

We may not always agree, but at least you listen to reason and debate back and forth.

[Big girl]

I guess you guys didnt read the articles I posted. There was a coup d'eat.then Cleveland became President and refused to annex.Mckinnleybecame
The POTUS and forced annexation, because we needed the area due to the Spanish-American War.Read the articles I posted before responding

[Big girl]

Call you an idiot that's now officially beneath contempt. That's what.

Your comparison of Hawaii and Ukraine is bogus. End of conversation.

Wow, I am so hurt. Kmsl

[Big girl]

What is a coup d'eat? Does anyone know?

[tvc184]

What is a coup d'eat? Does anyone know?

 

It is a type of French chicken soup.

[tvc184]

On the other hand, a coup d'etat is an overthrow of a government, usually violently and suddenly by a small group of people. 

 

In the case of Hawaii it was not a violent overthrow and the queen simply stepped down. 

 

And I still have no idea what it has to do with Russia and Ukraine. 

[Big girl]

Big girlYesterday, 06:14 PM

Teaching With Documents:
The 1897 Petition Against the Annexation of HawaiiBackground

When the Hawaiian islands were formally annexed by the United States in 1898, the event marked end of a lengthy internal struggle between native Hawaiians and white American businessmen for control of the Hawaiian government. In 1893 the last monarch of Hawaii, Queen Lili'uokalani, was overthrown by party of businessmen, who then imposed a provisional government. Soon after, President Benjamin Harrison submitted a treaty to annex the Hawaiian islands to the U.S. Senate for ratification. In 1897, the treaty effort was blocked when the newly-formed Hawaiian Patriotic League, composed of native Hawaiians, successfully petitioned the U.S. Congress in opposition of the treaty. The League's lobbying efforts left only 46 Senators in favor of the resolution, less than the 2/3 majority needed for approval of a treaty. The League's victory was shortlived, however as unfolding world events soon forced the annexation issue to the fore again. With the explosion of the U.S.S. Maine in February of 1898 signaling the start of the Spanish American War, establishing a mid-Pacific fueling station and naval base became a strategic imperative for the United States. The Hawaiian islands were the clear choice, and this time Congress moved to annex the Hawaiian islands by Joint Resolution, a process requiring only a simple majority in both houses of Congress. On July 12, 1898, the Joint Resolution passed and the Hawaiian islands were officially annexed by the United States.

[Big girl]

The overthrow of the Kingdom of Hawaii refers to a coup d'état on January 17, 1893, in which anti-monarchical insurgents within the Kingdom of Hawaii, composed largely of United States citizens, engineered the overthrow of its native monarch, QueenLili'uokalani. Hawaii was initially reconstituted as an independent republic, but the ultimate goal of the revolutionaries was the annexation of the islands to the United States, which was finally accomplished in 1898. Does this sound familiar? 
Wiki hawaii overthrow.com

[Big girl]

Please explain the aforementioned articles. This is not what the Hawaiians wanted.

[Big girl]

www.archives.gov/.../hawaii-petition/

1st article link

[Big girl]

THE QUEEN WAS OVERTHROWN. SHE DID NOT STEP DOWN.

[tvc184]

THE QUEEN WAS OVERTHROWN. SHE DID NOT STEP DOWN.

 

YES SHE DID.

[tvc184]

Please explain the aforementioned articles. This is not what the Hawaiians wanted.

 

Yes, I can copy and paste articles also. 

 

Is there a point to your thread? I have asked several times and you have yet to respond other than copy and paste other literature that doesn't answer anything. Is this just trolling or do you have a point?

[Big girl]

I gave the links, read the articles. You sound ridiculous. Smh

[PN-G bamatex]

Don't let her suck you in.  SHe has absolutely no idea what she is talking about anyways so what does it matter?  Everyone knows that she can't hold her own in here.  Thinking or putting together a coherent argument is not her forte. 

 

You are absolutely right. And that's one mistake I won't be making again.

[tvc184]

I gave the links, read the articles. You sound ridiculous. Smh

 

Okay, you're trolling. I get it.

 

You brought up Hawaii, you brought up Ukraine and you brought up people throwing stones. 

 

I have asked many times what they have to do with each other or if you have a point. I can see by your response that you have none. 

 

Not shocking however.