AggiesAreWe Posted September 28, 2014 Report Posted September 28, 2014 Sorry, but numbers do matter in most cases. There are a few exceptions, but classifications are formed to create competitive balance in UIL competitions. It's the reason UIL went to divisions in football playoffs, to even the playing field even more. Quote
AggiesAreWe Posted September 28, 2014 Report Posted September 28, 2014 You guys that totally discount enrollment numbers are bad at math. Specifically I invite you to study the laws of probabilities. Since you probably won't, I will give you an example to which you can relate. Indiana is an example of a state that for a long time had a state tournament in basketball that combined all classifications. I am sure most of you saw the movie Hoosiers. There is a reason that team, out of Milan, Indiana, was a Cinderella story. Because that almost NEVER happens. And that is a sport that requires only 5 (not 11) guys, and you don't separate offense and defense. Check the history of that tournament and see how many lower classification teams won. I get that only 11 kids can be on the field at one time. And I get your argument about Plano, Buddy. But put Plano, or Katy High, or SA Judson, in 4A DII and see how they fare. C'mon guys, to ignore enrollment numbers altogether is nothing more than idiocy. Good post. Agree 100% Quote
BMTSoulja1 Posted September 28, 2014 Report Posted September 28, 2014 I think it's more of that people are mad that little ol west orange stark a (small) school beats up on all the big schools around here it's nothing more than a bunch of hatters is all.But can't beat those small schools deep in the playoffs to make it to state. Smh Why would I hate on anything in Orange let alone the high school football team? Y'all not in our district... and when you were, there were no district championships or playoff appearances to show for it. Imagine that. All that while my team saw postseason action in that very same district . BMTSoulja1 1 Quote
SouthEastPigskins Posted September 28, 2014 Report Posted September 28, 2014 Yeah and what school are you again? Quote
AggiesAreWe Posted September 28, 2014 Report Posted September 28, 2014 But can't beat those small schools deep in the playoffs to make it to state. Smh Why would I hate on anything in Orange let alone the high school football team? Y'all not in our district... and when you were, there were no district championships or playoff appearances to show for it. Imagine that. All that while my team saw postseason action in that very same district . I am pretty sure Central and WO-S was in the same district in 2000 when the Mustangs were district champs and made it to state championship game. Quote
BMTSoulja1 Posted September 28, 2014 Report Posted September 28, 2014 I figured that it would be easy to determine that by looking at my username and my avatar... Quote
BMTSoulja1 Posted September 28, 2014 Report Posted September 28, 2014 I am pretty sure Central and WO-S was in the same district in 2000 when the Mustangs were district champs and made it to state championship game.Central was 5a back then. Was WO-S 5a too? I thought they were 4a. Quote
AggiesAreWe Posted September 28, 2014 Report Posted September 28, 2014 Central was 5a back then. Was WO-S 5a too? I thought they were 4a. What year did Central drop to 4A? Quote
SouthEastPigskins Posted September 28, 2014 Report Posted September 28, 2014 Okay your from central that figures. Jw cause I honestly don't know when was the last time y'all have been district champs? Man are you still made that west orange beat y'all last year? And yeah you say them small schools we always lose to in the playoffs but that just makes it obvious that central wouldn't stand a chance with them neither lol Quote
TxHoops Posted September 28, 2014 Report Posted September 28, 2014 But can't beat those small schools deep in the playoffs to make it to state. Smh Why would I hate on anything in Orange let alone the high school football team? Y'all not in our district... and when you were, there were no district championships or playoff appearances to show for it. Imagine that. All that while my team saw postseason action in that very same district . WOS's last 5A team ('85) was pretty good. Lost to Jack Yates in the regionals round of the playoffs 19-6. Yates went on to beat Odessa Permian 37-0 in the state championship. WOS went on to win state in 4A the next two years. Quote
BMTSoulja1 Posted September 28, 2014 Report Posted September 28, 2014 Okay your from central that figures. Jw cause I honestly don't know when was the last time y'all have been district champs? Man are you still made that west orange beat y'all last year? And yeah you say them small schools we always lose to in the playoffs but that just makes it obvious that central wouldn't stand a chance with them neither lolGo ahead and stick with playing the Bridge City's to prepare you for district... lol Quote
TxHoops Posted September 28, 2014 Report Posted September 28, 2014 Go ahead and stick with playing the Bridge City's to prepare you for district... lol Try and keep up Soulja. Where is Bridge City on the schedule? I will tell you who IS on their schedule. A) PNG (who will beat Central) and B ) Richmond Foster (who would beat Central if only Central were good enough to make it that deep in the playoffs). Mr. Buddy Garrity 1 Quote
Mr. Buddy Garrity Posted September 28, 2014 Report Posted September 28, 2014 Enrollment is the number of human beings that attend a particular school . 1A to 6A is the designations for a range of the number of students a school may have & compete in those designated classifications! !!!!! The only purpose that classification serves is try to put similar sized schools together in geographic areas(districts) for financial (travel) reasons & competition! that has nothing to do with the composition of a particular team, whether its footbal, checkers, track & field or basket weaving! !!! What does make a difference is demographics ! Is there anybody on this board that believes that a team from the Valley would have as many, or the type of athlete that WOS has, or any of the teams in South East Tx, or Houston or Dallas??? What about a team from Montana? There are plenty of schools in the Valley that are 6A, which one would you take over WOS in a football game. A 6A school may have more to FROM, but that doesn't mean that they're choosing from Cream of the crop athletes! Once again wos is almost never gonna have the most players on the sidelines, when was the last time we didnt have enough ATHLETES to compete?????NEVER, ANYBODY, ANYTIME, ANYWHERE I agree totally. Quote
21 hondo Posted September 28, 2014 Report Posted September 28, 2014 Every school wos has played thus far has more students, should we foreit those wins, obviously those teams were better , they had more students !!!!!! yeah if one school is 6A & has 1000 exceptionally athletes & the other is 4A & only 100 exceptional athletes then that would be an advantage. That is a function of demographics not mathmatics!!! 3 states account for the majority of div 1 football athletes produced in this country ( Texas, Cali, Florida) numbers by themselves does not predict talent. There is a reason why America dominates in sports that require a lot of athleticism, even when the country They are competing is a larger country, demographically we have a lot of athletes. Look at Jamaica, the US has 100 time their populaton but couldnt beat them in a relay if their life depended on it. DEMOGRAPHICS matter, not numbers, if all u have to pick from is scrubs, then thats whats gonna be on the field!!!!! Lots of schools have numbers, but no talent within those numbers. There are regions of texas & everywhere else where there a lot of people, but not many athletes. Who cant understand that???? Quote
Gasilla Posted September 28, 2014 Report Posted September 28, 2014 Go ahead and stick with playing the Bridge City's to prepare you for district... lol That's funny, WOS has always scheduled tough non-district schedules. B/T/W, BC is not on our schedule. Those who are, PNG, Richmond Foster, Jasper, Silsbee and Newton. All traditionally strong, though the last 3 are down this year, but not typically. Quote
BMTSoulja1 Posted September 28, 2014 Report Posted September 28, 2014 Try and keep up Soulja. Where is Bridge City on the schedule? I will tell you who IS on their schedule. A) PNG (who will beat Central) and B ) Richmond Foster (who would beat Central if only Central were good enough to make it that deep in the playoffs).In a triple OT thriller? Didnt PN-G beat y'all last year too? Foster? Not worried about them. We'll cross that bridge soon enough. And what makes you they they'll make a deep run? And what makes you think they'd beat us? Because they beat y'all? Very great logic there, I have to tell you... (sarcasm) Quote
BMTSoulja1 Posted September 28, 2014 Report Posted September 28, 2014 I guess y'all have a point... H-J and Orangefield will be tough games for y'all. I think that both will test you because I know it's normal for the smaller schools to run that same kind off offense like OF and H-J Quote
Gasilla Posted September 28, 2014 Report Posted September 28, 2014 Every school wos has played thus far has more students, should we foreit those wins, obviously those teams were better , they had more students !!!!!! yeah if one school is 6A & has 1000 exceptionally athletes & the other is 4A & only 100 exceptional athletes then that would be an advantage. That is a function of demographics not mathmatics!!! 3 states account for the majority of div 1 football athletes produced in this country ( Texas, Cali, Florida) numbers by themselves does not predict talent. There is a reason why America dominates in sports that require a lot of athleticism, even when the country They are competing is a larger country, demographically we have a lot of athletes. Look at Jamaica, the US has 100 time their populaton but couldnt beat them in a relay if their life depended on it. DEMOGRAPHICS matter, not numbers, if all u have to pick from is scrubs, then thats whats gonna be on the field!!!!! Lots of schools have numbers, but no talent within those numbers. There are regions of texas & everywhere else where there a lot of people, but not many athletes. Who cant understand that???? So how does coaching factor in here? And if it's all about demographics, then how do you explain... say... a Stephenville. Which is a small town. The demographics never change, but go from being a cellar dweller in the early 90's to one of the most successful programs in the state? Quote
BMTSoulja1 Posted September 28, 2014 Report Posted September 28, 2014 And I forgot yall districts changed where it doesn't include Bridge City anymore... my bad. Quote
AggiesAreWe Posted September 28, 2014 Report Posted September 28, 2014 I have seen the Mustangs twice and the Jags twice this season. I think WO-S is the better team and would beat Central if played. But that's all hypothetical. PN-G game was only 1 OT, not triple. Quote
Gasilla Posted September 28, 2014 Report Posted September 28, 2014 In a triple OT thriller? Didnt PN-G beat y'all last year too? Foster? Not worried about them. We'll cross that bridge soon enough. And what makes you they they'll make a deep run? And what makes you think they'd beat us? Because they beat y'all? Very great logic there, I have to tell you... (sarcasm) Isn't Central 5A DII? RF is 5A DI. Don't think that match up is possible. Quote
BMTSoulja1 Posted September 28, 2014 Report Posted September 28, 2014 Talking about last year... Central vs. PN-G. Quote
AggiesAreWe Posted September 28, 2014 Report Posted September 28, 2014 Isn't Central 5A DII? RF is 5A DI. Don't think that match up is possible. Central makes playoffs they will be DI. Quote
Gasilla Posted September 28, 2014 Report Posted September 28, 2014 Talking about last year... Central vs. PN-G. Why would you even compare a common opponent from last year? Didn't we beat the brakes off of Central last year? Quote
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