GRADES

[Alpha Wolf]

Ozen freshman team had to forfeit the rest of their season due to not have enough passing players....Central's freshman will be playing Hamshire-Fannett freshman tomorrow...smh.

[AggiesAreWe]

Ozen freshman team had to forfeit the rest of their season due to not have enough passing players....Central's freshman will be playing Hamshire-Fannett freshman tomorrow...smh.

 

WOW!!!!

[drewlsu]

Ozen freshman team had to forfeit the rest of their season due to not have enough passing players....Central's freshman will be playing Hamshire-Fannett freshman tomorrow...smh.

I heard Central had to get rid of their freshman B team for the same reason.

[Alpha Wolf]

WOW!!!!

I can't confirm that but it may be true...When kids make the jump from middle school to high school, some are not ready for the new demands. Getting their education along with more time spent in practices in their respective extracurricular activity, is more demanding. Some don't take it serious until that first report card come out.

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

So are the rest of the players being moved up?

[little d]

So the ones that are only in school to play sports, shouldn't have to worry about classes. Heck if that's the case why even make them attend just let them show up at practice after roaming the streets all day!

You don't understand what I'm saying. The real smart kids have no trouble with grades so no pass no play don't effect them. The ones that have learning disabilities are already frustrated so sometimes sports or FFA or something they enjoy is all that keeps them in school. No pass no play also cost people money on things like fairs. All the money that goes into a animal goes down the drain if the kid is failing. Now who does that effect the student or the parent? There's more to this than letting a kid roam the street then go to play ball.

[drewlsu]

You don't understand what I'm saying. The real smart kids have no trouble with grades so no pass no play don't effect them. The ones that have learning disabilities are already frustrated so sometimes sports or FFA or something they enjoy is all that keeps them in school. No pass no play also cost people money on things like fairs. All the money that goes into a animal goes down the drain if the kid is failing. Now who does that effect the student or the parent? There's more to this than letting a kid roam the street then go to play ball.

I don't think most fairs are UIL sanctioned events.
The local district may have a policy on that but probably not UIL.

[drewlsu]

I don't think most fairs are UIL sanctioned events.
The local district may have a policy on that but probably not UIL.

So I found this and it appears your are mostly correct. The student can not show the animal, but can groom it and even help deliver it to the show. Then it can be shown by another individual.
http://www.uiltexas.org/files/tea-uil-side-by-side.pdf

[TROJANSWIN]

So I found this and it appears your are mostly correct. The student can not show the animal, but can groom it and even help deliver it to the show. Then it can be shown by another individual.
http://www.uiltexas.org/files/tea-uil-side-by-side.pdf

FFA truthfully does not fall under UIL. However, the organization has adopted UIL's rules for many things including no-pass-no-play. Whether or not the animal is allowed to be exhibited is up to the fair and the school. A lot of fairs have rules that say the student must show their own animal, so if they fail, them and the animal are out.
Still , no-pass-no-play has been around a long time. The responsibility falls on the student and parent to make sure the kid is eligible. Seems like a couple thousand dollars worth of feed and calf should be motivation to study!

[Callaway7]

If you want coaches to really hammered down on the books don't fire them after 2 years of not doing enough winning on the field. If you had to choose between moving your kids around place to place job to job because one kid failed stress would be high. Not saying all would but some would/will do it. it is no different then every ethics case in the business world. Him or me.

[Callaway7]

If your son is a star receiver and scouts are in the stands wouldn't you want the starting qb playing?

[little d]

Yes your right $$$ is always motivation but some kids can study there a** off and still have trouble passing. Your also right about no pas no play being around a long time. Does that make it right? Slavery was around a long time to did that make it right? I have a son who has dyslexia he goes after school for help he also stays up to 1 and 2 o'clock in the morning doing homework. Then he gets told he can't play football a game he loves or show at the fair something else he loves to do. Then people say no pass no play is a good thing that's because they don't have to see the disappoint on there child's face. Sounds more like discrimination against those that have a hard time with school and grades.

[Callaway7]

Yes your right on that usually teachers will give benefit of the doubt to effort. But I don't think you can compare this to slavery. It's not that bad.

[TROJANSWIN]

Yes your right $$$ is always motivation but some kids can study there a** off and still have trouble passing. Your also right about no pas no play being around a long time. Does that make it right? Slavery was around a long time to did that make it right? I have a son who has dyslexia he goes after school for help he also stays up to 1 and 2 o'clock in the morning doing homework. Then he gets told he can't play football a game he loves or show at the fair something else he loves to do. Then people say no pass no play is a good thing that's because they don't have to see the disappoint on there child's face. Sounds more like discrimination against those that have a hard time with school and grades.

It is always tough when a kid works hard at something and then isn't successful. I hate that your son has it harder than some of the other kids might. The problem is the real world is not going to make exceptions for him. He is going to have to overcome this problem. Is it fair, no! Guess what, life is not fair. Not trying to be mean, but don't let this be your excuse to let him slide and not pass. It is difficult, but you must help him overcome and find a way to be successful. Imagine the look on his face when he does pass and is able to play, show, or graduate. The hard work that he had to put in may be the work ethic that makes him successful in whatever he chooses to do some day. In the end, no pass no play is law. If you don't like it, talk to your representatives and get it repealed.
On another note, I hope the school is also helping with the dyslexia. If not, you need to have a serious talk with some administrators. There are programs that can help, and sometimes they have to try different things to find the one that works. Good luck to your son, and hope he never misses a game or show. Be proud of him for the hard work that he puts in. That is something many kids today lack.

[Kville1968]

My son is autistic and if a child has a true disability there are modifications outlined in their ARD to prevent them from struggling. Every child CAN succeed. Expect results, advocate, but don't blame the system.

[Slam14]

My son is autistic and if a child has a true disability there are modifications outlined in their ARD to prevent them from struggling. Every child CAN succeed. Expect results, advocate, but don't blame the system.

 

 Good luck to you and your son!  It's refreshing to see people working hard, coping and not blaming the system. 

 

To CraigS' original question...Why would anyone think playing one JV game would really benefit a varsity player who is going to be out for the next few weeks?   It's not as big of a deal for an individual, but it's a HUGE deal for a team.  What about the end of hte NEXT six weeks when the playoffs are here?  What happens when a school's star running back doesn't make the grades?  Can a coach flip to play on Thursday and have his running back eligible?

[little d]

Yes your right on that usually teachers will give benefit of the doubt to effort. But I don't think you can compare this to slavery. It's not that bad.

. Just comparing the time,everyone says no pass no play has been around a long time so it must be a good thing. Well slavery had been around hundreds of years so I guess it was a good thing to. Just saying just because something's been around a long time doesn't mean it's a good thing.

[little d]

Well Mr Slam 14 my son does work hard and we do work with the school in many ways. Until you have to deal with this you have no right to judge.

[little d]

My son is autistic and if a child has a true disability there are modifications outlined in their ARD to prevent them from struggling. Every child CAN succeed. Expect results, advocate, but don't blame the system.

. Good luck to your son in everything he does in life. Now the difference we have is dyslexia is 504 so he only gets accommodations not modifications. Modifications are for special ed which means they do 1/2 the work that 504 students do. I need to explain that I am not looking for any kind of sympathy or anything just trying to explain.

[little d]

It is always tough when a kid works hard at something and then isn't successful. I hate that your son has it harder than some of the other kids might. The problem is the real world is not going to make exceptions for him. He is going to have to overcome this problem. Is it fair, no! Guess what, life is not fair. Not trying to be mean, but don't let this be your excuse to let him slide and not pass. It is difficult, but you must help him overcome and find a way to be successful. Imagine the look on his face when he does pass and is able to play, show, or graduate. The hard work that he had to put in may be the work ethic that makes him successful in whatever he chooses to do some day. In the end, no pass no play is law. If you don't like it, talk to your representatives and get it repealed.
On another note, I hope the school is also helping with the dyslexia. If not, you need to have a serious talk with some administrators. There are programs that can help, and sometimes they have to try different things to find the one that works. Good luck to your son, and hope he never misses a game or show. Be proud of him for the hard work that he puts in. That is something many kids today lack.

. Thank you for your kind words of wisdom. I have 2 kids my girl is 25 and was a A-B student and her and my son both get told all the time that "life ain't fair". So for my son hasn't missed a game or showing at the fair and last year he made the sale with his animal. He has good teachers that help him by letting him redo work and turn work in late. As for as contacting representatives we have talked to everybody all the way up to the governors office. It's just that I don't need the state to motivate my child to do his work That's the parents job not the states. We have to much government in our lives now.