thetragichippy Posted October 18, 2014 Report Posted October 18, 2014 I just found out my 90/10 insurance plan is being eliminated for next year. Our best plan going forward will be 80/20 and my monthly cost will increase a few percent...... So, who's fault is it? Bobcat1 1 Quote
shovel Posted October 19, 2014 Report Posted October 19, 2014 Hippy, you know the answer to this question... My out of pocket deductible goes up a grand + a monthly premium increase. This on top of an increase last year. Lets ask another way... If our costs decreased by the same amount, who would you give credit to? LumRaiderFan 1 Quote
mat Posted October 19, 2014 Report Posted October 19, 2014 Rising insurance costs is a way of life. However, Obamacare was supposed to change that. Be patient. Cost may go down one day. :huh: Quote
tvc184 Posted October 19, 2014 Report Posted October 19, 2014 Rising insurance costs is a way of life. However, Obamacare was supposed to change that. Be patient. Cost may go down one day. :huh: That is the claim. Anxiously awaiting the claimed results..... but not holding my breath. Quote
stevenash Posted October 19, 2014 Report Posted October 19, 2014 Is anyone yet willing to admit that the President misled us about the insurance program? And it is quite possible he did not intentionally mislead us. He may simply have not foreseen all the potential ramificiations which is why I get so tired of being told how smart he is. Quote
LumRaiderFan Posted October 20, 2014 Report Posted October 20, 2014 Whether they admit it or not...he lied. How can he magically provide better healthcare for less? He can't... He simply lied, and enough boobs believed him. Quote
thetragichippy Posted October 20, 2014 Author Report Posted October 20, 2014 In my information booklet, the affordable care act is mentioned as the reason for the increase..... It took a while, but it finally affected me Bobcat1 1 Quote
tvc184 Posted October 20, 2014 Report Posted October 20, 2014 In my information booklet, the affordable care act is mentioned as the reason for the increase..... It took a while, but it finally affected me In our last negotiations with the city, our payraise was directly related to Obamacare. The city was holding back more than $1 million to wait for the Supreme Court decision to see if the act would go through. When the Supreme Court allowed Obamacare to be put in for effect, it reduced the amount of money that the city had for pay raises. In effect my payraise was cut because of Obamacare. We are currently in negotiations for a new three-year deal at this time. One of the sticking points is healthcare coverage because the newly hired employees are facing severe cuts in what is offered for insurance. As part of our pay package and benefits all employees have always received free to the employee healthcare coverage and they have to pay an additional premium if they want to put any family members on it. The new employees that are hired now have to start paying partly for their own insurance that up until now was always part of their benefit package. Add to that their family deductible have now gone up to $15,000. There is no getting around the fact that Obamacare is costing us a lot of money in pay raises and benefits. I can't wait to see these massive cuts in our health care cost and insurance that Obamacare and Obama administration promised if the bill was passed. Does anyone truly believe that there will be any cuts to healthcare their insurance in the future? Quote
mat Posted October 20, 2014 Report Posted October 20, 2014 It's you employers fault for not covering the increase. Quote
stevenash Posted October 20, 2014 Report Posted October 20, 2014 In our last negotiations with the city, our payraise was directly related to Obamacare. The city was holding back more than $1 million to wait for the Supreme Court decision to see if the act would go through. When the Supreme Court allowed Obamacare to be put in for effect,it reduced the amount of money that the city had for pay raises. In effect my payraise was cut because of Obamacare.We are currently in negotiations for a new three-year deal at this time. One of the sticking points is healthcare coverage because the newly hired employees are facing severe cuts in what is offered for insurance. As part of our pay package and benefits all employees have always received free to the employee healthcare coverage and they have to pay an additional premium if they want to put any family members on it. The new employees that are hired now have to start paying partly for their own insurance that up until now was always part of their benefit package. Add to that their family deductible have now gone up to $15,000.There is no getting around the fact that Obamacare is costing us a lot of money in pay raises and benefits. I can't wait to see these massive cuts in our health care cost and insurance that Obamacare and Obama administration promised if the bill was passed. Does anyone truly believe that there will be any cuts to healthcare their insurance in the future?Yours is a perfect example of how destructive Obamacare has been to the economy. You can rest assured that there are many people out there needing a job who would likely have one if this extra burden on a company had not been introduced. Just imagine the guy who is considering opening a new factory( and hiring employees) but decides against it because of Obamacare and the necessity of an 18 month environmental impact study. When he decides against the investment, he is labeled as greedy and unpatriotic when all he is actually doing is avoiding losses. Quote
thetragichippy Posted October 20, 2014 Author Report Posted October 20, 2014 It's you employers fault for not covering the increase. I hope this is sarcasm..... Quote
tvc184 Posted October 20, 2014 Report Posted October 20, 2014 Yours is a perfect example of how destructive Obamacare has been to the economy. You can rest assured that there are many people out there needing a job who would likely have one if this extra burden on a company had not been introduced. Just imagine the guy who is considering opening a new factory( and hiring employees) but decides against it because of Obamacare and the necessity of an 18 month environmental impact study. When he decides against the investment, he is labeled as greedy and unpatriotic when all he is actually doing is avoiding losses. I know a small business owner who hires about 40 employees. They are easy common labor type jobs and he they don't make a big salary because of that. One of their benefits however is insurance. He said that to maintain their coverage at its current level it will cost him an additional $500,000 this year and will increase in the future. The last time I talked to him he was not sure if he was going to lay off employees or cut their insurance and just pay the penalty. Either way, a work force of almost all minorities are about to take a hit because of the mandates. Quote
stevenash Posted October 20, 2014 Report Posted October 20, 2014 I know a small business owner who hires about 40 employees. They are easy common labor type jobs and he they don't make a big salary because of that. One of their benefits however is insurance. He said that to maintain their coverage at its current level it will cost him an additional $500,000 this year and will increase in the future. The last time I talked to him he was not sure if he was going to lay off employees or cut their insurance and just pay the penalty. Either way, a work force of almost all minorities are about to take a hit because of the mandates.Doesn't this make even the staunchest of lefties wonder if the "compassion" of giving the uninsured free health care is more than offset by the lack of compassion exhibited in causing so many to lose work. The situation you just mentioned is far from an isolated incident. Even worse, when this individual is forced to make those layoffs, he will be characterized as a greedy capitalist with racist tendencies even though those who make the accusation , in reality, represent the real cause of the problem. Quote
mat Posted October 21, 2014 Report Posted October 21, 2014 Hippy, as sarcastic as it was intended, it is Obama's view. Quote
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