The Ridiculousness of Houston Scarborough making the Playoffs

[Eazy]

Just think, next year they will be in the playoffs for the 2nd straight year on a 65 game losing streak. Give their coach a raise.

[HJ2012]

Who is it they're trying to play to avoid going winless into the playoffs?

[td]

I may be wrong but it seems everybody got silver last year,or maybe it was just for the carthage game,can't remember

Yes last year everyone got a silver. He didn't bring the whole jv team up.

[Eazy]

KIPP Sunnyside. I think it's a charter school downtown.

[skipper]

i feel for these kids ,i feel sure they work there tails off to win a game for there school i wish them the best

[ST413]

A. It's all about money. More playoff games = more money.
B. As much as I hate to say it...if any 4th seed in the state wins a playoff game at all...then it's justified. You can't say "you only make the playoffs if you have a winning record"..
You either have good teams not get in, or bad teams get in.
Face it..some districts are just a lot better than others.

I disagree with b. You should have to earn your spot in the playoffs in your district. If you can't come in the top two spots out of even a 8 or possibly 9 team district, Which I am not sure even exists anymore, Then you shouldn't make the playoffs. I am sure there are several 4th place teams in the state that can beat some of the district winners but that's what makes district important. Heck I know this to be a fact in basketball look back to 3 or 4 years ago when Silsbee and HJ were the best two teams in the region for a few years. We also had a WOS and Orangefield that had playoff quality teams at least part of that time. If it was only two teams then neither of those two would have made the playoffs, that would have just made their district play that much more meaningful. It seems to me that it takes a lot of meaning away from the regular season, like the nba. At least they get a little meaning in seeding and home court.

[griff]

Let's say the average ticket is $6 and the average attendance is 5,000. UIL's 15% of the gate of those 598 games comes to $2,990,000.

 

I actually think I may have low balled on average price and attendance.

 

UIL will definitely make 3 mil+ this post season.

 

I'm sure the UIL is rooting for PNG to make the playoffs every year. The larger playoff crowds boost their earnings. 

[no-look]

Let's say the average ticket is $6 and the average attendance is 5,000. UIL's 15% of the gate of those 598 games comes to $2,990,000.
 
I actually think I may have low balled on average price and attendance.
 
UIL will definitely make 3 mil+ this post season.

Wow!!!! Didn't realize the depth.

[griff]

With the pearls?? You know he doesn't give out the Silver unless you have earned it. Lol. I wonder how many playoff opponents over the years have seen us and thought we were dirt poor. I can hear them "why can't they afford all the same color helmets?" Lol!

 

I've thought that same thing, kicker. Remember it was Coach Hooks who brought the entire football program to all playoffs games. Coach Thompson instead promotes a few (last year it was six) players from JV and they receive their silver helmets. He didn't like the idea of carrying all those extra players who would not play anyway. That also saves a little money on transportation and the meal ticket without bringing so many boys. 

[DesertStorm]

when i added it up i used $5, 5000 people and 600 games.

 

that put them making 2,250,000 million.

 

so on a bad year they are making 2+ million for doing nothing.

 

i would like to know what the money is used for.

Don't think you are close on the 5000 attendance. 3A and down will never get close to that number, except at a state final or semi-finals game maybe. Coached a very good now 2A Div 1 and we never came close to 5000 even in the state semi-finals. I'm not a numbers person, but not sure that it would even average 5000.

[BLUEDOVE3]

Only in the State of Texas.. This is the product of taking 4 teams from each district... Making the playoff isnt what it used to be...

Thank you! Been saying the same thing for several years. It definitely allows the "little Johnnie's" to participate in the playoff system. Its just too bad this particular school from Houston has to define the flaws of the playoff sysyem with their history.

[Back2swag]

Big games would attaract bigger crowds I would think , js

[Bigdog]

Thank you! Been saying the same thing for several years. It definitely allows the "little Johnnie's" to participate in the playoff system. Its just too bad this particular school from Houston has to define the flaws of the playoff sysyem with their history.

 

Everyone needs to write the UIL Legislative Council and the TEA which runs the State Executive Community and complain.   Of course the UIL is headquartered at UT, so there you go.  :)

 

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[TxHoops]

AAW, would you concede that WOS' undefeated and extremely strong JV team would likely beat Scarborough?

[robanadana]

There is no honor among thieves.

[bullets13]

AAW, would you concede that WOS' undefeated and extremely strong JV team would likely beat Scarborough?

I saw them play this year, and honestly feel like their coach could probably schedule them a varsity schedule they could go 10-0 against if he filled it with Houston teams and some of the weaker 3A-2A teams in our area.

[skipper]

the mustangs jv team is some than to see tons of speed outstanding wrs with good hands. i do belive the mustangs will be just as good for years to come ,the 9th grade is good very well coached.

[jv_coach]

Half the teams in the state make the play-offs. It is a travesty.

[Englebert]

In 4A DII, 64 teams make the playoffs out of a field of 87 teams...which is 74%. You don't have to be in the top 25% to make the playoffs, you have to be in the bottom 25% to not make the playoffs. This is shameful on the UIL's part.

[pe2009]

No fault of their own....Jones folded right before the school year leaving a 4 team district. Nothing can be done unti realignment. A lot of these HISD schools should be closed or consolidated. Many of them have 2A-3A enrollment numbers. No reason why they couldnt combine Waltrip and Scarborough. Also, it's a stones throw from Northbrook and Aldine Eisenhower.

[kicker]

http://lonestarfootball.net/team.asp?action=schedule&T=1824&S=1995&GUID=8529227376

 

What happened to Scarborough in 1995? LOL

[HJ2012]

http://lonestarfootball.net/team.asp?action=schedule&T=1824&S=1995&GUID=8529227376

 

What happened to Scarborough in 1995? LOL

I heard they're bringing back the '95 team to play in place of the kids there now.

[bjimbo]

Scarborough isn't a playoff team but they know it and surely the slaps that started this thread should too.  Show some class.

[wo-s#1]

I don't like playing teams like this because everyone knows they have nothing to lose,a lot of teams tend to play dirty in situations like this

[drewlsu]

Scarborough isn't a playoff team but they know it and surely the slaps that started this thread should too. Show some class.

Maybe some of the comments have taken cheap shots, but I think the point of the thread is to point out UIL watering down the playoffs.