drewlsu Posted November 6, 2014 Report Posted November 6, 2014 WOS would still be winning lots of games without DT. HF would not. I feel with King they have a shot to actually win a playoff game, even if they finish fourth in district. And HF hasn't even been to the playoffs in how's my years?? If our district was larger they would certainly have more than one win. Not their fault they are in a district with a dominant program like WOS, and an emerging program like HJ. skipper and dimlaws 2 Quote
wo-s#1 Posted November 6, 2014 Report Posted November 6, 2014 I work with a guy from hf when we played my first thought was they have athletes they just keep going to him.don't get me wrong u gotta go to the man no doubt but they should spread it out a lil more,use him as a decoy,anybody who seen the wos game last week will agree Dt was mostly a decoy and it pays off skipper 1 Quote
BMTSoulja1 Posted November 6, 2014 Report Posted November 6, 2014 I also have to go with Mr. Seay. I was sold after he made that tackle on the goal line stance Quote
skipper Posted November 7, 2014 Author Report Posted November 7, 2014 I work with a guy from hf when we played my first thought was they have athletes they just keep going to him.don't get me wrong u gotta go to the man no doubt but they should spread it out a lil more,use him as a decoy,anybody who seen the wos game last week will agree Dt was mostly a decoy and it pays offits hard to cover him even with two kids on him Quote
wo-s#1 Posted November 7, 2014 Report Posted November 7, 2014 its hard to cover him even with two kids on himexactly as seen he still had ok stats but any coach will zoom in on your playmaker, and u have to exploit that, good things will happen, we wanna win that's all,if u just win everything else will come Quote
pinelandflash Posted November 7, 2014 Report Posted November 7, 2014 In District 10 2A 4 or 5 players in my opinion: WS QB Reshod Williams, WS ATH DeMarie Smith, WS LB Ty Fore, WS WR/DB Josh Duffey and Shelbyville RB Octavion Burrell. If SA makes the playoffs I'll add their QB JaMikel Roberts into the mix...... Quote
HJ2012 Posted November 7, 2014 Report Posted November 7, 2014 Are we talking just the skill positions or trench players as well? I know it's harder to get stats for those guys, but I think sometimes they're overlooked. For example, HJ's o-line is the only reason that the backs have the numbers they do. I will take Padgett for MVP. He NEVER misses blocks and everyone here has seen what he can do on defense. Plus, throw a couple passes caught and a handful of passing TD's into the mix from a team that rarely throws the ball. Quote
HJ2012 Posted November 7, 2014 Report Posted November 7, 2014 But, I would not be upset to see King get it. Kid is a monster. Plus, a lot of people underestimate his arm. Quote
#62jjohnson Posted November 7, 2014 Report Posted November 7, 2014 Are we talking just the skill positions or trench players as well? I know it's harder to get stats for those guys, but I think sometimes they're overlooked. For example, HJ's o-line is the only reason that the backs have the numbers they do. I will take Padgett for MVP. He NEVER misses blocks and everyone here has seen what he can do on defense. Plus, throw a couple passes caught and a handful of passing TD's into the mix from a team that rarely throws the ball.im sure padgett will get defensive MVP and im sure the 'hogs" from hj well get a lot of love on the all district team . Quote
badndn Posted November 7, 2014 Report Posted November 7, 2014 DT is the best player on the best team in that district. MVP King is Offensive MVP Padgett Defensive MVP Quote
badndn Posted November 7, 2014 Report Posted November 7, 2014 So who gets 22-5A Coach of the Year? Neuman, Foreman or Suggs. Neuman for having the Dogs back in the hunt when they "weren't supposed to be" Foreman for getting Central back on the map. Suggs for the three month turnaround after all the turmoil in the Ozen football program. MVP. Seay O MVP ??? Whaley/Sparks/Seales D MVP Locke/LB #20 from Ozen Quote
Tyler Dixson Posted November 7, 2014 Report Posted November 7, 2014 So who gets 22-5A Coach of the Year? Neuman, Foreman or Suggs. Neuman for having the Dogs back in the hunt when they "weren't supposed to be" Foreman for getting Central back on the map. Suggs for the three month turnaround after all the turmoil in the Ozen football program. MVP. Seay O MVP ??? Whaley/Sparks/Seales D MVP Locke/LB #20 from Ozen Jaquet is OMVP Quote
drewlsu Posted November 7, 2014 Report Posted November 7, 2014 DT is the best player on the best team in that district. MVP King is Offensive MVP Padgett Defensive MVP So then the question is, is MVP the best player, or is it the Most Valuable Player for team? Again, WOS would win without DT. HF would not win without King. Quote
dimlaws Posted November 7, 2014 Report Posted November 7, 2014 D MVP PJ Locke ...7int's 1pic 6....and gang of pass breakups and tackles. ..he plays all over the Secondary. Quote
badndn Posted November 7, 2014 Report Posted November 7, 2014 So then the question is, is MVP the best player, or is it the Most Valuable Player for team? Again, WOS would win without DT. HF would not win without King. HF didn't WIN with King! Quote
badndn Posted November 7, 2014 Report Posted November 7, 2014 D MVP PJ Locke ...7int's 1pic 6....and gang of pass breakups and tackles. ..he plays all over the Secondary. Yea that's why I listed him first. Best pure DB in District. Quote
#62jjohnson Posted November 7, 2014 Report Posted November 7, 2014 HF didn't WIN with King!i know its not much to some but last i checked they were 5-4 and they wouldn't have that without king . Quote
HFfan5 Posted November 7, 2014 Report Posted November 7, 2014 No sense in even fighting it jjohnson, have people throwing in negative opinions without a real clue. I agree completely with you, without King HF would probably be winless. Teams have to game plan specifically for him. In my OPINION he deserves the overall MVP based off what he has been able to accomplish on the field with very limited pieces around him. Quote
HFfan5 Posted November 7, 2014 Report Posted November 7, 2014 I will say this too, I wouldn't bat a eye or give any kind of argument if DT wins it. No doubt he is a incredible talent. Quote
badndn Posted November 7, 2014 Report Posted November 7, 2014 HF is 5-4, But 1-3 in District. It's District MVP, not season MVP. So the Most Valuable Player in the District is worth ONE win???? I'm not arguing that the young man isn't an incredible talent. If the top two teams in district were the only teams to make the playoffs, then we wouldn't even be having this discussion. Now all that said, if King has a great game and they defeat OF tonight, I could see the case for Kendrick getting stronger. Quote
drewlsu Posted November 7, 2014 Report Posted November 7, 2014 Does anyone have DT's stats for the HJ and HF games? Quote
#62jjohnson Posted November 7, 2014 Report Posted November 7, 2014 HF is 5-4, But 1-3 in District. It's District MVP, not season MVP. So the Most Valuable Player in the District is worth ONE win???? I'm not arguing that the young man isn't an incredible talent. If the top two teams in district were the only teams to make the playoffs, then we wouldn't even be having this discussion. Now all that said, if King has a great game and they defeat OF tonight, I could see the case for Kendrick getting stronger.i know it doesnt happen often but we have seen district mvps be on losing teams . We can say all we want about just district , so your gonna tell me what he did or any other canidate done in 6 games prior numbers dont count ? Like i said earlier 32 total tds in 9 games . So that means he scored a lot in district and lets say he scored 32 in 6 games and 4 in 4 games we just gonna say .... but that was non district !! So when the papers come out after the season over and the writers wrtite their articles they use ALL THE STATS FROM ALL THE GAMES !!! So you think his performance vs lumberton was a fluke and no coaches playing hamshire later didnt watch that ? Hell in that case dont watch film from non district games cause they are irrelevant. Dt is a great choice and WOS produces great teams every year , they just reload . Hamshire is trying to climb back into being relevant since really the mid 90's . The young man has put the team on his back and he is carrying them . Teams know he is all they have and he still makes things hapen with not much around him . Put DT at hamshire and King WOS what would you have ? I'll wait !! Quote
VNUPE Posted November 7, 2014 Report Posted November 7, 2014 i know it doesnt happen often but we have seen district mvps be on losing teams . We can say all we want about just district , so your gonna tell me what he did or any other canidate done in 6 games prior numbers dont count ? Like i said earlier 32 total tds in 9 games . So that means he scored a lot in district and lets say he scored 32 in 6 games and 4 in 4 games we just gonna say .... but that was non district !! So when the papers come out after the season over and the writers wrtite their articles they use ALL THE STATS FROM ALL THE GAMES !!! So you think his performance vs lumberton was a fluke and no coaches playing hamshire later didnt watch that ? Hell in that case dont watch film from non district games cause they are irrelevant. Dt is a great choice and WOS produces great teams every year , they just reload . Hamshire is trying to climb back into being relevant since really the mid 90's . The young man has put the team on his back and he is carrying them . Teams know he is all they have and he still makes things hapen with not much around him . Put DT at hamshire and King WOS what would you have ? I'll wait !! So you're saying King is a better athlete than DT? Quote
One4All Posted November 7, 2014 Report Posted November 7, 2014 [qulolote n ame="#62jjohnson" post="1578641" timestamp="1415384405"] i know it doesnt happen often but we have seen district mvps be on losing teams . We can say all we want about just district , so your gonna tell me what he did or any other canidate done in 6 games prior numbers dont count ? Like i said earlier 32 total tds in 9 games . So that means he scored a lot in district and lets say he scored 32 in 6 games and 4 in 4 games we just gonna say .... but that was non district !! So when the papers come out after the season over and the writers wrtite their articles they use ALL THE STATS FROM ALL THE GAMES !!! So you think his performance vs lumberton was a fluke and no coaches playing hamshire later didnt watch that ? Hell in that case dont watch film from non district games cause they are irrelevant. Dt is a great choice and WOS produces great teams every year , they just reload . Hamshire is trying to climb back into being relevant since really the mid 90's . The young man has put the team on his back and he is carrying them . Teams know he is all they have and he still makes things hapen with not much around him . Put DT at hamshire and King WOS what would you have ? I'll wait !![/quote] district games All that matters with these awards.....district selections keyword is district...lol Quote
drewlsu Posted November 7, 2014 Report Posted November 7, 2014 So you're saying King is a better athlete than DT? I believe his point is that King is more VALUABLE to HF than DT is to WOS. If you put King on WOS and DT on HF; WOS still wins their games, HF probably doesn't have as many Ws. Quote
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