How a Bill Approving the Keystone XL Pipeline Could Be on Obama’s Desk by Year’s End

[LumRaiderFan]

http://dailysignal.com/2014/11/12/bill-approving-keystone-xl-pipeline-obamas-desk-years-end/?utm_source=heritagefoundation&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=morningbell&mkt_tok=3RkMMJWWfF9wsRokvqrMZKXonjHpfsX56O0tXaG%2FlMI%2F0ER3fOvrPUfGjI4CSsVmI%2BSLDwEYGJlv6SgFQrLBMa1ozrgOWxU%3D

 

From the article:

 

On the heels of bruising losses in the midterm elections, Senate Democrats are pushing for a vote on the Keystone XL oil pipeline, a measure stymied for years by the Obama administration.

 

:rolleyes:   Now they want a vote...oh well, whatever it takes to get it done.

[baddog]

I think we are all going to get sick of hearing the terms "bipartisan" and "negotiate" now that things can't be shoved down our throats. Dems want the Keystone now.........roflmao!!!!!! What happened to all the pollution issues?

[smitty]

I think we are all going to get sick of hearing the terms "bipartisan" and "negotiate" now that things can't be shoved down our throats. Dems want the Keystone now.........roflmao!!!!!! What happened to all the pollution issues?

Come on, baddog, the Dems were using the "public is stupid" approach again!    ;)

[Big girl]

VETO

[stevenash]

I am with you big girl.  I hope he vetos every single bill put before him.  It will cement his legacy in a very unflattering manner.

[LumRaiderFan]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/11/14/obama-position-on-keystone-unchanged/

 

Obama is becoming the Republicans best campaigner,

[tvc184]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/11/14/obama-position-on-keystone-unchanged/

Obama is becoming the Republicans best campaigner,

As the last three elections have proven.

The next one will seal the deal.

[tvc184]

VETO

Other than being the daily pot stirrer, is there a good or valid reason to veto the Keystone pipeline?

[LumRaiderFan]

Other than being the daily pot stirrer, is there a good or valid reason to veto the Keystone pipeline?

 

Creates more obamacare candidates.

[LumRaiderFan]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/11/14/house-votes-to-approve-keystone-pipeline/

[stevenash]

Other than being the daily pot stirrer, is there a good or valid reason to veto the Keystone pipeline?

Trust me, Big Girl knows nothing about Keystone unless Thinkprogress.org has something in writing about it

[westend1]

None of this matters until it gets approved by the state of Nebraska

[LumRaiderFan]

None of this matters until it gets approved by the state of Nebraska

 

Nebraska is having it's own internal struggles over the pipeline, but if it can ever get federal approval, it will eventually happen.

 

They just haven't had that decision to make placed upon them yet.

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/11/14/does-it-actually-matter-if-congress-votes-to-approve-the-keystone-pipeline/

[stevenash]

It's good to know that a state still has some input on such issues.  Doesnt seem to be that way for states like Arizona when it comes to law enforcement and immigration issues.

[baddog]

VETO

VETO

Hey, when it's all you got, it's all you got huh?

Why would Obama veto a bill that his party is now wanting to pass? All you can answer is "veto"? Makes absolutely no sense, but then, when did you ever make sense? What happened to your " teach him how to negotiate" speech?

[baddog]

No response again......

[Big girl]

And.....it will create around 50 permanent jobs. That is great.

[Big girl]

Name the democrats that are for it.

[CraigS]

Name the democrats that are for it.

are you talking about the ones that was against it before they were for it....like Mary Landrieu? or any number of the other political democrat flip floppers....says she only needs one more vote for the required 60 votes....

 

The effort is crucial to Landrieu because of her runoff election in December against Rep. Bill Cassidy (R-La.), who also backs the pipeline. Landrieu is seen as a decided underdog in the race, and Senate Democrats have scheduled Tuesday’s vote to try to give her a boost.

If she fails, it could be a death knell for her reelection hopes.

http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/224386-an-mary-landrieu-get-to-60-on-keystone

[Big girl]

We sure do need those 50 permanent jobs.

[CraigS]

We sure do need those 50 permanent jobs.

yep - 50 less of your kind to feed, house, and provide phones to!

[LumRaiderFan]

yep - 50 less of your kind to feed, house, and provide phones to!

 

And the reality is there will be a lot more than 50 jobs linked to the pipeline...right of way maintenance, equipment rental companies, the businesses that sell goods to these workers...the list goes on.

 

The bottom line is even if the pipeline provided ZERO jobs, we would be getting oil from our friends to the north rather than from folks that hate us.

[stevenash]

And.....it will create around 50 permanent jobs. That is great.

  Are you complaining about the number or the permanency of the jobs?   Fifty is incorrect by a long stretch, but even if it isnt, Lord forbid that we should find a way for another 50 people to be off the welfare rolls and becoming productive citizens.  Wouldnt it be terrible if they, in turn, taught their children to have initiative and accountability and they should make their own way and determine the ultimate outcome of their lives?  After all, we all "know" how much better the government is at doing that.  And heck, these jobs really are "shovel ready"

[77]

50 jobs no big deal unless your one of the fifty! 

[tvc184]

More than likely it will be 50 families that can now be supported by private money at union wages and that isn't counting the spin off jobs which will be many. 

 

Besides that, the Keystone pipeline is not a jobs project like the shovel ready jobs paid for by taxpayer's money. It is private money that has the single intent of bringing oil to the Gulf coast to refine. This is about being closer to independence on Middle East oil and a huge political benefit to the USA in world affairs as people will have a less or no trump card of oil. 

 

That fact that some families will get a living wage is a side benefit of capitalism. I can't imagine the argument of being against it because only 50 families will reap a large benefit.