obama Wants Taxpayers To Pay For Illegal's Children...

[smitty]

Right or wrong?

 

http://dailycaller.com/2014/11/20/obama-u-s-taxpayers-must-pay-for-illegals-children/

[new tobie]

where exactly do you get your facts, maybe when your asleep at night

[LumRaiderFan]

where exactly do you get your facts, maybe when your asleep at night

 

Is the article not true?

 

Please post a rebuttal so I can make an informed decision.

[westend1]

How This Happened

Here we should explain that the IRS routinely seeks to collect both federal income taxes and federal payroll taxes from illegal immigrants, who are required to pay regardless of their immigration status. Because such workers don’t qualify for a valid Social Security number, the IRS issues a nine-digit Individual Taxpayer Identification Number. An ITIN doesn’t authorize the user to work legally in the U.S., and doesn’t entitle him or her to Social Security benefits.

But in addition to collecting taxes, the IRS has increasingly been making payments to low-income workers who pay no federal income tax but qualify for “refundable” credits. Generally, illegal immigrants don’t qualify for Social Security, Medicare or other federal benefits, except for emergency medical treatment in hospitals. And since passage of the 1996 welfare reform law, they have been ineligible for the refundable portion of the Earned Income Tax Credit as well.

At that time, Congress required that a valid Social Security number be filed for those claiming the EITC, and that requirement saved an estimated $300 million a year. But Congress did not enact a similar requirement when it created the child tax credit, which went into effect in tax year 1998 at $400 per child, and was increased to $500 the following year.

Initially the credit wasn’t refundable in most cases (only for families who had three or more children and who also met certain income tests). So the issue of illegal workers claiming credits did not arise at first. But the 2001 Bush tax cuts made more parents eligible for refundable credits, and increased the amount in steps to $1,000 per child.

So by 2005, the recent IG report said, 796,000 persons without valid Social Security numbers claimed refundable child credits totaling $924 million, and in 2008, these claims had risen to 1,526,276 persons claiming $2.1 billion in refunds.

Finally, President Obama’s 2009 stimulus measure made temporary changes that had the effect of allowing more parents to claim the refundable credits, or claim greater amounts. And the total grew the following year to the $4.2 billion cited by the IG. Those “temporary” changes now have been extended at least through 2012 by the bill Obama signed in December 2010, which also extended the Bush tax cuts and enacted additional economic stimulus measures including a reduction in federal payroll taxes.

[westend1]

chirp,   chirp

[LumRaiderFan]

chirp,   chirp

 

So do you believe that the plan is for the illegals to remain illegal down the road and that the plan is not to make them legal low income subsidized voters? (democrats, of course)

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/illegal-immigrants-could-receive-social-security-medicare-under-obama-action/2014/11/25/571caefe-74d4-11e4-bd1b-03009bd3e984_story.html

 

From the article:

 

Republicans said Tuesday that they were surprised that illegal immigrants covered by the president’s executive action would be in line to someday receive benefits under Social Security and Medicare, which are the cornerstones of government-provided economic security for elderly Americans.

“First with Obamacare we were told we should pass it and then read it to find out what was in it,” Republican National Committee spokeswoman Kirsten Kukowski said by e-mail. “Now Obama overreached and acted unilaterally on immigration, which should have been vetted and authorized by Congress, and we’re finding out there’s more to the story than Obama and the Democrats originally told Americans.”

 

You may trust this administration to follow the law but I sure don't.

[westend1]

I believe the title of the thread is misleading.  Do you?

[LumRaiderFan]

I believe the title of the thread is misleading. Do you?

Right now the case could be made that this will never happen.

Do I believe that it is a very likely possibility... absolutely.

Obamacare is a perfect example that they will say one thing with completely different intentions and ridicule those that oppose it as conspiracy theorists... until they're right.