PhatMack19 Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 About how I would have voted. However, it is interesting that head to head is the end all, be all for Art Briles now. Cause in 2008, he voted for OU ahead of Texas which sent the Sooners to the MNC game. Everyone that makes this argument always leaves out the fact that Texas Tech also only had 1 loss and it was a 3 way tie. That's convenient. Tech beat Texas by 6 on a last second TD Texas beat OU by 10 OU blasted #2 Tech by 44 points I agree Texas probably should have played in the Big 12 title game, but a 3 way tie isn't near the same as head to head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxHoops Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 Everyone that makes this argument always leaves out the fact that Texas Tech also only had 1 loss and it was a 3 way tie. That's convenient. Tech beat Texas by 6 on a last second TD Texas beat OU by 10 OU blasted #2 Tech by 44 points I agree Texas probably should have played in the Big 12 title game, but a 3 way tie isn't near the same as head to head. People who try to justify the point with this argument are either being dishonest with themselves and everyone else OR too dimwitted to remember that NO ONE was discussing Tech as a possibility for the championship game. The race came down to Texas or OU and Artie voted OU. Just a bit hypocritical to bang that drum so loudly now is my point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Buddy Garrity Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 @NOTSportsCenter: BREAKING: NFL names TCU NFC South Champs "They get a playoff game, and now the South champ won't wet itself. Everyone wins. Except Baylor." :D pride at impact 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Buddy Garrity Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 @SportsDayDFW: Big 12 commish: We were penalized for not having a title game, could consider expansion http://d-news.co/Fv82y http://twitter.com/SportsDayDFW/status/541672447318454273/photo/1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 Fair or not it appears that at least with the people that vote for the final 4 the Big 12 still has a ways to go to get the credit that it may well deserve. Also, do not think for a second that the fact that TCU and specially Baylor did not get the credit they deserve just due to their history - I do not believe at all that if Texas had the same record and schedule that TCU and Baylor had that they would not be on everyone's top 4 - obviously the better the history of the program in question the more likely they get in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pride at impact Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 Then go back to the computers!!! Computers dont know history Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxHoops Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 Also, do not think for a second that the fact that TCU and specially Baylor did not get the credit they deserve just due to their history - I do not believe at all that if Texas had the same record and schedule that TCU and Baylor had that they would not be on everyone's top 4 - obviously the better the history of the program in question the more likely they get in. I agree with you. Same with OU. Sad but true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badndn Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 Me too. UT or OU get in in the same situation. The NCAA and the Bowl Reps Spoke and OSU got in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eazy Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 I looked back at Phil Steeles mag in the preseason. He correctly picked 3 of the 4 teams. Had OU instead of Oregon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Buddy Garrity Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 I looked back at Phil Steeles mag in the preseason. He correctly picked 3 of the 4 teams. Had OU instead of Oregon. The disrespect Oregon has gotten from naysayers all year is gonna make this that more sweeter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullets13 Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 It's a joke. Ohio St has a valid claim to be in the playoffs. I think there should be a system in place where they get in. But not in the current system, at the expense of two teams with better resumes, better losses, and stronger schedules. Out of the 3 in the running for the final spot, OSU was a clear 3rd. That being said, i personally believe anyone that can play a power-5 schedule with only one loss deserves a shot at the playoffs. this season, 3 of 4 playoff teams are power-5 teams with one loss. No team that did make the playoffs was head and shoulders above the 5th and 6th place teams (I'm not saying Bama and Oregon aren't better, but I am saying their seasons as a whole weren't all that much better). An 8-team playoff would ensure that essentially every year any team who can make it through the power 5 conferences with 1 loss would make the playoffs, and also leave leeway for a team like Marshall to get a chance (had they remained undefeated). 8 is the way to go. The only positive about all this is that it only took one season to have a situation where there is a legitimate gripe about the new system that will exert pressure and garner support to expand to 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullets13 Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 The disrespect Oregon has gotten from naysayers all year is gonna make this that more sweeter. They get the respect at the beginning of every year, and every year they lose to someone they shouldn't. Hard to blame the naysayers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Buddy Garrity Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 They get the respect at the beginning of every year, and every year they lose to someone they shouldn't. Hard to blame the naysayers. We gonna see this yr, just beat the hell outta Arizona in which ppl "experts" said would beat us again. SCOREBOARD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxHoops Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 We gonna see this yr, just beat the hell outta Arizona in which ppl "experts" said would beat us again. SCOREBOARD. I believe the national champion will come out of the Rose Bowl. Which team wins that game I can't predict. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxHoops Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 And I would take tcu against either team in the sugar bowl. Maybe the most complete team I've seen this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badndn Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 And I would take tcu against either team in the sugar bowl. Maybe the most complete team I've seen this year. And had they played a complete game on 10/11/14 instead of 3 quarters they'd be sitting at yhe number one spot probably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhatMack19 Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 Vegas got the Top 4 right before the season http://i.imgur.com/ltfEG26.png?1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppermint Patty Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 Vegas got the Top 4 right before the seasonhttp://i.imgur.com/ltfEG26.png?1 To think Baylor and TCU wonder how they got screwed. Two small, Southern, private schools. The NCAA has a TV market that would not have been represented. So guess who got a "bump" in the end? I wonder how much Wisconsin got to take one for the team? C.R.E.A.M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhatMack19 Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 To think Baylor and TCU wonder how they got screwed. Two small, Southern, private schools. The NCAA has a TV market that would not have been represented. So guess who got a "bump" in the end? I wonder how much Wisconsin got to take one for the team? C.R.E.A.M. It would have been pretty embarrassing for the first ever college football playoff bowls to have to break out the tarps to cover empty seats. They won't have this problem with the teams they picked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaiderRed30 Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 It would have been pretty embarrassing for the first ever college football playoff bowls to have to break out the tarps to cover empty seats. They won't have this problem with the teams they picked. If Baylor had been picked lets say in the sugar bowl then there would be fans. Briles is the epitome (?) of texas football and can bring in the fans because people want him to do well and showcase the state. Plus baylor grads have the money to travel. TCU I do not think would have brought fans in the same way. As for the picks the committee had their hands tied. Ohio State just destroyed Wisconsin, a one loss team. They made sense. If TCU got in then their would be riots in Waco. If a Baylor got in then their would be riots on University St. The safest bet was to just pick Ohio State and stay out of the big 12 controversy as much as possible and say hey y'all don't have a championship game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxHoops Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 If Baylor had been picked lets say in the sugar bowl then there would be fans. Briles is the epitome (?) of texas football and can bring in the fans because people want him to do well and showcase the state. Plus baylor grads have the money to travel. TCU I do not think would have brought fans in the same way. As for the picks the committee had their hands tied. Ohio State just destroyed Wisconsin, a one loss team. They made sense. If TCU got in then their would be riots in Waco. If a Baylor got in then their would be riots on University St. The safest bet was to just pick Ohio State and stay out of the big 12 controversy as much as possible and say hey y'all don't have a championship game. Agree with most all of that. But both tcu and Baylor travel poorly. Very poorly. Tickets to the Fiesta Bowl last year were literally going for $5. Tcu had a similar showing the year they played Wisconsin in the rose bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaiderRed30 Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 Agree with most all of that. But both tcu and Baylor travel poorly. Very poorly. Tickets to the Fiesta Bowl last year were literally going for $5. Tcu had a similar showing the year they played Wisconsin in the rose bowl. That's why I said Sugar Bowl. Lots of cheap flights from Hobby and Love to New Orleans. And if it's local who doesn't want to watch that Baylor offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxHoops Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 That's why I said Sugar Bowl. Lots of cheap flights from Hobby and Love to New Orleans. And if it's local who doesn't want to watch that Baylor offense. True. And the sugar bowl are the easiet tickets to move in general anyway. New Orleans on New Years is a little more appealing than Phoenix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullets13 Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 Agree with most all of that. But both tcu and Baylor travel poorly. Very poorly. Tickets to the Fiesta Bowl last year were literally going for $5. Tcu had a similar showing the year they played Wisconsin in the rose bowl.And I agree with most all of THIS, but this is the national championship we're talking about here. not only would their schools travel better, more casual fans would go watch. that's the problem with all of the bowls but one in years past... they didn't mean anything. at least now we have 3 games that count instead of 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badndn Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 Think about it for a second. Who probably benefits most financially from a Big XII Championship? ESPN/ABC. So stuffing the Big XII and forcing its hand to have a championship game to "get in" is not too far fetched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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