muslims And Western Culture...

[77]

I will see a couple of mexicans tomorrow and I will ask!

[tvc184]

Iam sure he is talkin about drug cartels I dont think they do it in the name of their God like the terrorist do!

 

Uhhh.... you're about a minute late with that rationale.... 

 

:D

[SKINS]

How about the Russian Terrorist beheadings.

[baddog]

Cant post a link. I'm not a fan of Bill Maher, but he says that hundreds of millions of muslims support the Paris attack. I will post a link later.

[RETIREDFAN1]

How about the Russian Terrorist beheadings.

Those were muslims, too......You'll be hard pressed to find ANY terrorist attack in the past decade that wasn't done by muslims.......

[SKINS]

Those were muslims, too......You'll be hard pressed to find ANY terrorist attack in the past decade that wasn't done by muslims.......

Not hard pressed at all. http://www.globalresearch.ca/non-muslims-carried-out-more-than-90-of-all-terrorist-attacks-in-america/5333619

Just because you choose to ignore it doesnt mean other terrorist groups are not active.

[RETIREDFAN1]

Not hard pressed at all. http://www.globalresearch.ca/non-muslims-carried-out-more-than-90-of-all-terrorist-attacks-in-america/5333619

Just because you choose to ignore it doesnt mean other terrorist groups are not active.

Unless you can break that down to the last decade, like I stated, you haven't demonstrated anything to anyone.....again, you'll be hard pressed to find any terrorist attacks in the LAST DECADE that wan't done by muslims.......try reading your own source report next time......

[mat]

I'm not a Muslim supporter but I do believe in freedom of religion. There may be millions of Muslims in this country but we're not having inner terrorist attacks in this country.

[RETIREDFAN1]

I'm not a Muslim supporter but I do believe in freedom of religion. There may be millions of Muslims in this country but we're not having inner terrorist attacks in this country.

That's due more to the SECOND AMENDMENT than anything else.......

[SKINS]

How about the Norway shooting gs back in 2011, Colorado, that school in Connecticut. All Terrorist attacks, though the media doesn't seem to like calling them that because they were not Muslim.

How about Farc, continuously attacking the Columbian government, once again not Islamic.

[RETIREDFAN1]

How about the Norway shooting gs back in 2011, Colorado, that school in Connecticut. All Terrorist attacks, though the media doesn't seem to like calling them that because they were not Muslim.

How about Farc, continuously attacking the Columbian government, once again not Islamic.

how about you admit you screwed up on your source material in your earlier post....those few outliers you mentioned (which you were hard pressed to find) in no way diminishes the fact that nearly every single terrorist attack in the past decade was done by muslimes....stop being an apologist for the followers of the pedophile mohammed and admit the truth.......

[LumRaiderFan]

Just saying, more heads are cut off by Christians in a month than by Muslims in a year. Just ask Mexico.

 

 

Proof?

 

Still haven't seen the proof (link) for this post.

[SKINS]

Sorry been at work, had to brief the CO on Nigeria.

My information does not come from articles bit from unclassified reports that come across my desk.

[tvc184]

Not hard pressed at all. http://www.globalresearch.ca/non-muslims-carried-out-more-than-90-of-all-terrorist-attacks-in-america/5333619

Just because you choose to ignore it doesnt mean other terrorist groups are not active.

 

Who said other terror groups were not active? 

 

You started of by claiming "Just saying, more heads are cut off by Christians in a month than by Muslims in a year. Just ask Mexico." 

 

You have two people challenge that claim (me included) as to how beheadings in Mexico related to those committed by Muslims in the name of religion. This was a discussion of Muslim terrorism not drug cartels. The title of the thread is Muslims and western culture, not the drug war. 

 

In fact as stated above, the beheadings in Mexico have nothing to do with religion and deal with killing drug rivals or those that interfere. 

 

Now that your statement that "Christians" are beheading people has been squashed, you come up with Russia. Okay, how many Russians are killing people (much less your claim of beheadings) over religion in what is generally a non-sectarian state? Well, other than the Muslim killings? And yes some Christians have beheaded people but not in the name of Christianity. 

 

Then you try to recover from that by posting an article on "terror" attacks in the USA but they mention nothing of beheadings...... which after all if how you began this narrative. So how many of those Jews are beheading people in the USA over religion? In Mexico? In Russia? Anywhere?

 

By the article that you posted it is claimed that non-Muslims commit more than 90% of terror attacks (whatever the article is claiming as a terror attack). You are comparing what wikipedia claims in the Muslim population of the USA at 0.6% to the other 99.4% that are not. Hmmmm..... the numbers are higher for the almost 99 and a half percent than for the 0.6%? No kidding.......... 

 

In fact by the page you posted, the 0.6% of Muslims in the USA (per wikipedia) committed 6% of the terror attacks (per your article) or at a 1,000% higher rate than their population. 

 

Of course the page you used as proof also listed "Latino" terrorism as almost half of all terror attacks (with a listed population by the US Census of only 17%). Do you think that they are attacking people that are not Catholics or perhaps something else like the aforementioned drug cartels over here? How many are illegal aliens? 

 

Feel free to post more proof of beheadings by Christians over religion, which after all is what this thread is about, Muslims in the west. 

[SKINS]

I'm not saying that Muslims do not commit these terror attacks, I'm just sick of people here who think the words Islam and Terror are interchangeable. Especially when half my workday is filled by reading reports on leftwing extremists from Greece, or Mexican cartels commiting some other atrocity to mankind. Terrorism is not just Islam, that is only a small part.

[baddog]

Here is the link ......

http://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2015/01/10/pkg-orig-maher-controversial-response-france-attacks-charlie-hebdo.cnn

[RETIREDFAN1]

Sorry been at work, had to brief the CO on Nigeria.

My information does not come from articles bit from unclassified reports that come across my desk.

Translation: You don't have a bit of proof.......

[jv_coach]

[ Forenote:  Sir Winston Churchill has been recognized as one of the greatest men of the late nineteenth and of the twentieth century.  He was an extraordinary war leader to whom the Western World must be forever in debt.  He was a prophet in his own time as this quotation, written well over 100 years ago, demonstrates.]      


 
"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! 
Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia
in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many
countries, improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods
of commerce and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the 
Prophet rule or live.  A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and 
refinement, the next of its dignity and sanctity.  The fact that in Mohammedan 
law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as
a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the
faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.  


Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion 
paralyzes the social development of those who follow it.  No stronger retrograde
force exists in the world.  Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant 
and proselytizing faith.  It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising 
fearless warriors at every step, and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the 
strong arms of science, the science against which it (Islam) has vainly struggled, 
the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.”  
                                                                
[ Postnotes:  (1)  Sir Winston, as an officer of the British Army, served in the Sudan and in the Crimean War; in both instances against the Muslims.  These experiences gave him ample opportunity to observe the structure of Islamic society.  (2)  Churchill’s quotes were taken from the volume: Sir Winston Churchill; “The River War”, first edition, Volume II, pages 248-250, published by Longmans, Green & Company, 1899.  (3)  If Sir Winston were alive today, it is doubtful that a person in Great Britain criticizing Islam publicly could be arrested, and then fined or jailed, and even more doubtful that any  Muslims would be sitting in the English Parliament! ] 

 

http://www.allaboutmuhammad.com/winston-churchillrsquos-comments-on-islam.html

[mat]

Hard for me to read

[tvc184]

Is this any easier?

 

 

Sir Winston Churchill has been recognized as one of the greatest men of the late nineteenth and of the twentieth century. He was an extraordinary war leader to whom the Western World must be forever in debt. He was a prophet in his own time as this quotation, written well over 100 years ago, demonstrates.
 
How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries, improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement, the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men
 
Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyzes the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step, and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it (Islam) has vainly struggled the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.”
 
Sir Winston, as an officer of the British Army, served in the Sudan and in the Crimean War; in both instances against the Muslims. These experiences gave him ample opportunity to observe the structure of Islamic society. Churchill’s quotes were taken from the volume: Sir Winston Churchill; “The River War”, first edition, Volume II, pages 248-250, published by Longmans, Green Company, 1899.

If Sir Winston were alive today, it is doubtful that a person in Great Britain criticizing Islam publicly could be arrested, and then fined or jailed, and even more doubtful that any Muslims would be sitting in the English Parliament!