EnlightenedMessiah Posted January 24, 2015 Report Posted January 24, 2015 I read again and again how Obama is a socialist who takes from the rich and gives to everyone else. Based off verifiable data found virtually everywhere, any competant person can see that the rich have gotten considerably richer with inequality reaching decade highs. Great intellectuals of setxsports.com (Looking at you smitty), can you explain how Obama is a socialist given the current wealtth inequality in this country? Thanks - EnlightenedMessiah Quote
EnlightenedMessiah Posted January 24, 2015 Author Report Posted January 24, 2015 PS - Stevenash, I'm waiting for you to address my question about the diverisification benefits of hedge funds and other alternative assets in traditional stock and bond portfolios. You are a super sophisticated financial planning cold caller, so this shouldn't be an issue for you. Please PM me when you get a chance. Thanks Quote
77 Posted January 24, 2015 Report Posted January 24, 2015 Where you are confused is that Yobama is just a huge liar! Quote
smitty Posted January 25, 2015 Report Posted January 25, 2015 I read again and again how Obama is a socialist who takes from the rich and gives to everyone else. Based off verifiable data found virtually everywhere, any competant person can see that the rich have gotten considerably richer with inequality reaching decade highs. Great intellectuals of setxsports.com (Looking at you smitty), can you explain how Obama is a socialist given the current wealtth inequality in this country? Thanks - EnlightenedMessiah Round one of proof that obama IS a socialist. http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/more-proof-that-obama-is-a-socialist/ Quote
tvc184 Posted January 25, 2015 Report Posted January 25, 2015 I read again and again how Obama is a socialist who takes from the rich and gives to everyone else. Based off verifiable data found virtually everywhere, any competant person can see that the rich have gotten considerably richer with inequality reaching decade highs. Great intellectuals of setxsports.com (Looking at you smitty), can you explain how Obama is a socialist given the current wealtth inequality in this country? Thanks - EnlightenedMessiah Your question has a false assumption and/or a straw man argument. The rich have always gotten richer and it is because of the free market, not Obama. The flaw/straw man argument is too easy to dispell. You say that we claim Obama is a socialist that wants to take from the rich and give to the poor. Well that is exactly what has and wants to do. The Republicans compromised with the Dems in 2013 and raised the top rate by almost 5%. Now he has come back and asked for yet another tax increase on the rich. They is no claim or accusation that Obama is taking from the rich and giving to the poor, it is a fact. Quote
LumRaiderFan Posted January 25, 2015 Report Posted January 25, 2015 Better ask your questions quickly Enlightened one, you probably won't be here long. Quote
Mr. Buddy Garrity Posted January 25, 2015 Report Posted January 25, 2015 Better ask your questions quickly Enlightened one, you probably won't be here long. He hasn't done anything that warrants a vacation that I have seen. He's good. Quote
PAMFAM10 Posted January 25, 2015 Report Posted January 25, 2015 Nobody going to answer the question? ??? Quote
Big girl Posted January 25, 2015 Report Posted January 25, 2015 Round one of proof that obama IS a socialist.http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/more-proof-that-obama-is-a-socialist/ how so, a socialist is someone who wants the government to control all means of production. Look up the definition. Quote
mytwocents-28 Posted January 25, 2015 Report Posted January 25, 2015 Nobody going to answer the question? ??? Ummmm I'm pretty sure TVC did answer the question. Quote
Big girl Posted January 25, 2015 Report Posted January 25, 2015 Your question has a false assumption and/or a straw man argument. The rich have always gotten richer and it is because of the free market, not Obama. The flaw/straw man argument is too easy to dispell. You say that we claim Obama is a socialist that wants to take from the rich and give to the poor. Well that is exactly what has and wants to do. The Republicans compromised with the Dems in 2013 and raised the top rate by almost 5%. Now he has come back and asked for yet another tax increase on the rich. They is no claim or accusation that Obama is taking from the rich and giving to the poor, it is a fact. that is a lie and you know it. Smh Quote
Big girl Posted January 25, 2015 Report Posted January 25, 2015 Are you guys rich. If not, why do you care Quote
thetragichippy Posted January 25, 2015 Report Posted January 25, 2015 that is a lie and you know it. Smh What did he lie about? Those are facts Quote
stevenash Posted January 25, 2015 Report Posted January 25, 2015 I read again and again how Obama is a socialist who takes from the rich and gives to everyone else. Based off verifiable data found virtually everywhere, any competant person can see that the rich have gotten considerably richer with inequality reaching decade highs. Great intellectuals of setxsports.com (Looking at you smitty), can you explain how Obama is a socialist given the current wealtth inequality in this country? Thanks - EnlightenedMessiahBefore one questions or degrades the competence of others, one who portrays himself as above all others really ought to learn that competent is not spelled c-o-m-p-e-t-A-n t. And nobody is going to accept the excuse of "I'm using my phone key pad" or "I was in a hurry and missed a key". People of such superior knowledge simply do not make spelling and/or grammatical errors, particularly when they are condescending to everyone else. Big girl 1 Quote
5GallonBucket Posted January 26, 2015 Report Posted January 26, 2015 give an inch they take a mile....its a slow process that started before obama. The rich get rich mostly due to intellect and making good decisions along with work ethic. NO COLOR BEARING Quote
EnlightenedMessiah Posted January 26, 2015 Author Report Posted January 26, 2015 You still dodge my questions regarding diversification benefits of alternative investments Yawn Pick up the phone and get back to dialing Before one questions or degrades the competence of others, one who portrays himself as above all others really ought to learn that competent is not spelled c-o-m-p-e-t-A-n t. And nobody is going to accept the excuse of "I'm using my phone key pad" or "I was in a hurry and missed a key". People of such superior knowledge simply do not make spelling and/or grammatical errors, particularly when they are condescending to everyone else. Quote
stevenash Posted January 26, 2015 Report Posted January 26, 2015 Nothing to dodge. I very well understand the benefits of diversification. My complaint about hedge funds was more associated with the relative high cost compared to other invesments. There are many ways to blend non correlated assets into a portfolio other than using hedge funds. If one does his job well, cold calling is not a necessity. Except for my training school in New York, I never made a cold call. So, try condescending from some other position. You probably also ought to omit spelling and grammar from your condescenscion efforts. Personal insults still aren't working. Quote
LumRaiderFan Posted January 27, 2015 Report Posted January 27, 2015 He hasn't done anything that warrants a vacation that I have seen. He's good. Patience! Quote
Mr. Buddy Garrity Posted January 27, 2015 Report Posted January 27, 2015 Patience! Thats what ALOT of folks need on this forum ;) mat 1 Quote
EnlightenedMessiah Posted January 27, 2015 Author Report Posted January 27, 2015 News flash: Almost all alternative assets have higher costs compared to traditional stock and bond funds. And please elaborate on how you're doing to "blend" top performing managers in alternative asset classes into a traditional portfolio, without paying 2/20.Nothing to dodge. I very well understand the benefits of diversification. My complaint about hedge funds was more associated with the relative high cost compared to other invesments. There are many ways to blend non correlated assets into a portfolio other than using hedge funds. If one does his job well, cold calling is not a necessity. Except for my training school in New York, I never made a cold call. So, try condescending from some other position. You probably also ought to omit spelling and grammar from your condescenscion efforts. Personal insults still aren't working. Quote
stevenash Posted January 27, 2015 Report Posted January 27, 2015 News flash- There are hundreds of funds( mutual, not hedge) and structured products that provide as much exposure as one wants in non correlated assets. Stop trying to position yourself as somebody who has superior knowledge of market behavior. Everyone has an opinion and/or strategy and they apply it as they see fit. If they dont do their job well, they wont be in the business very long. Heres one more newsflash for you. " Top performing" managers often dont maintain that status for long periods of time. Therefore, a backward looking approach in hiring someone is often times less productive than a forward looking one. Quote
stevenash Posted January 27, 2015 Report Posted January 27, 2015 http://www.wsj.com/articles/calpers-pulls-back-from-hedge-funds-1406156915 Quote
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