stevenash Posted February 9, 2015 Report Posted February 9, 2015 Do you find anything hypocritical about the left, when it comes to abortion, insisting that a woman has the right to do with her body as she wishes and simultaenously being vociferously insistent on requiring vaccinations? ( for the record, I support vaccinations) Quote
SKINS Posted February 9, 2015 Report Posted February 9, 2015 Do you find anything hypocritical about the left, when it comes to abortion, insisting that a woman has the right to do with her body as she wishes and simultaenously being vociferously insistent on requiring vaccinations? ( for the record, I support vaccinations) Two different categories. Abortion affects three people (mother, father, and potential child). Vaccinations, more specifically the lack of vaccinations, affect the entire country. Mr. Buddy Garrity 1 Quote
RETIREDFAN1 Posted February 9, 2015 Report Posted February 9, 2015 No different.....choice is choice....... Quote
SKINS Posted February 9, 2015 Report Posted February 9, 2015 Its the governments job to protect the people, abortion is a subject the will never have anything to do with the people. Vaccinations have everything to do with the people. They are completely different. Mr. Buddy Garrity 1 Quote
EnlightenedMessiah Posted February 9, 2015 Report Posted February 9, 2015 I don't feel comfortable comparing abortion to vaccines. Here's my stances on both - interpret it how you want Abortion - Not a big fan of it.. But sometimes it's probably the best option (rape, birth defects, extremely low IQ parents) Vaccines - I support vaccinations. I'm not sure how I feel about forced vaccinations. I do believe they should be required if you let your kid go to public schools, daycare, etc. thetragichippy and Mr. Buddy Garrity 2 Quote
thetragichippy Posted February 9, 2015 Report Posted February 9, 2015 I don't feel comfortable comparing abortion to vaccines. Here's my stances on both - interpret it how you want Abortion - Not a big fan of it.. But sometimes it's probably the best option (rape, birth defects, extremely low IQ parents) Vaccines - I support vaccinations. I'm not sure how I feel about forced vaccinations. I do believe they should be required if you let your kid go to public schools, daycare, etc. You just wiped out 80% of the population :wacko: EnlightenedMessiah 1 Quote
stevenash Posted February 9, 2015 Author Report Posted February 9, 2015 Skins- if its the governments job to protect the people, I would ask you a couple of more questions: Should all people be forced to get the flu vaccine? I think we all know that salt and sugar are both bad for you-should the government have a say in whether you can consume these items or a say on how much one can have? Should the government protect people ( save their lives) by making laws/rules/regulations against obesity? Quote
SKINS Posted February 9, 2015 Report Posted February 9, 2015 Skins- if its the governments job to protect the people, I would ask you a couple of more questions: Should all people be forced to get the flu vaccine? I think we all know that salt and sugar are both bad for you-should the government have a say in whether you can consume these items or a say on how much one can have? Should the government protect people ( save their lives) by making laws/rules/regulations against obesity? The people is different than the person. The flu shot I'm for, especially in public schools and the like. If you don't get the flu shot you could very well get me and anybody else sick. None of the other stuff have anything to do with the people, you being obese does not affect me in any way. Mr. Buddy Garrity 1 Quote
Mr. Buddy Garrity Posted February 9, 2015 Report Posted February 9, 2015 Skins- if its the governments job to protect the people, I would ask you a couple of more questions: Should all people be forced to get the flu vaccine? I think we all know that salt and sugar are both bad for you-should the government have a say in whether you can consume these items or a say on how much one can have? Should the government protect people ( save their lives) by making laws/rules/regulations against obesity? Flu and obesity not comparable IMO. Being around an obese person cant kill me but being around someone with the flu can. Quote
stevenash Posted February 9, 2015 Author Report Posted February 9, 2015 I get the flu shot every year. But I have spoken to a number of doctors who are against it. Quote
77 Posted February 10, 2015 Report Posted February 10, 2015 Father and the baby dont get a choice! Quote
bullets13 Posted February 10, 2015 Report Posted February 10, 2015 Father and the baby dont get a choice! From what I've seen the father makes the choice much more often than the mother, either by pressuring her to do so or abandoning her when she gets pregnant and putting her in a no-win situation Quote
LumRaiderFan Posted February 10, 2015 Report Posted February 10, 2015 From what I've seen the father makes the choice much more often than the mother, either by pressuring her to do so or abandoning her when she gets pregnant and putting her in a no-win situation The baby is the one in the truly "no win" situation. Mr. Buddy Garrity 1 Quote
77 Posted February 10, 2015 Report Posted February 10, 2015 Father may make the choice but he does not have the final say! Quote
Mr. Buddy Garrity Posted February 10, 2015 Report Posted February 10, 2015 Father may make the choice but he does not have the final say! Final say is: use protection in the first place! thetragichippy 1 Quote
EnlightenedMessiah Posted February 10, 2015 Report Posted February 10, 2015 I think men should have an "opt out" clause where they don't have to pay child support, but they have 30 days after birth to declare it. Obviously this situation would be for one night stand type pregnancies where the two mates are obviously not going to work out. No child support = no visitation either, if one day ole Johnny decides to re enter the kids life. Or if one of these crazy women lie about being on the pill. Men get the shaft in family courts hard.. Someone make a topic on this lol Quote
5GallonBucket Posted February 10, 2015 Report Posted February 10, 2015 I don't get the flu shot and haven't had the flu in over 20 years. Quote
EnlightenedMessiah Posted February 10, 2015 Report Posted February 10, 2015 Obviously Jesus loves you moreI don't get the flu shot and haven't had the flu in over 20 years. Quote
thetragichippy Posted February 10, 2015 Report Posted February 10, 2015 I think men should have an "opt out" clause where they don't have to pay child support, but they have 30 days after birth to declare it. Obviously this situation would be for one night stand type pregnancies where the two mates are obviously not going to work out. No child support = no visitation either, if one day ole Johnny decides to re enter the kids life. Or if one of these crazy women lie about being on the pill. Men get the shaft in family courts hard.. Someone make a topic on this lol We need a pill........ EnlightenedMessiah 1 Quote
stevenash Posted February 10, 2015 Author Report Posted February 10, 2015 Obviously Jesus loves you more DId that statement come from an Agnostic? Quote
RETIREDFAN1 Posted February 10, 2015 Report Posted February 10, 2015 I don't get the flu shot and haven't had the flu in over 20 years. I've never taken a flu shot in my life....and have yet to get the flu....... Quote
LumRaiderFan Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 I've never taken a flu shot in my life....and have yet to get the flu....... Same here. Quote
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